More people dying every week now than any covid week thats strange and nothing is being said

duffy

many of the 'conspiracies' turned out to be correct. so you could call them predictions.

how about that the virus originated in a lab? which got you cancelled until sleepy Joe said that's what they actually think happened?

how about Fauci and his cronies conspiring to suppress/destroy/smear scientific voices against lockdowns?

how about the conspiracy that twatter was being paid by the authorities to cancel/throttle accounts that opposed the permitted covid narrative?

how about the conspiracy that the efficacy of covid vaccines were deliberately being oversold?

how about the conspiracy that the authorities would try and bring in vaccine passports?

how about the conspiracy that the authorities would bring in mandatory covid vaccination. Say hello to thousands of care workers that lost their jobs, praps not a conspiracy after all.

How about the conspiracy that he was lying

Sajid Javid says Omicron cases doubling every two days as MPs debate new restrictions

Health Secretary Sajid Javid has described the Omictron variant as a 'grave threat'.

He said the number of cases of Omicron is doubling every two days, and there are currently around 200,000 cases a day.

.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rClFE00oEI0

I sent this email on 8th Dec 2021 to my MP

Many thanks for your reply back in April.

Clearly you are not personally responsible, however it appears vaccine passports are planned to be introduced after all. They are morally intolerable. Aside from this, there is absolutely no evidence that they have any positive impact on public health whatsoever. There are many countries that they have been rolled out, including nations of the UK, and they do not do anything. Vaccinated people can be COVID positive and can transmit the virus, so lead to the absurd situation of someone who could be infectious being waved through.

England was in an excellent position, COVID hospitalisations are low and flat, deaths with COVID have fallen for the last two weeks, and positive tests have remained in line with the volume of testing. The theoretical threat of omnicron is not a justification for ruining millions of lives again. If this variant is as infectious as the scaremongering modellers who are always wrong are claiming, it can’t be stopped anyway. The harms caused by the overreaction to COVID will be with us for generations. That’s before Boris dropped in the mandatory vaccination bomb into the conversation.

Some of the things happening are absurd, like having gps cancel minor operations and health checks for over 75s, so they can deliver more third jabs to people who don’t need them. And this is supposedly to benefit over 75s. One couldn’t make it up.

Everyone has a line *****, what is yours? We have no official opposition unfortunately, so we’re relying on rational Tory mps being our voice in parliament.

Kind regards

Some of the things happening are absurd, like having gps cancel minor operations and health checks for over 75s, so they can deliver more third jabs to people who don’t need them. And this is supposedly to benefit over 75s

Either these health checks and minor ops were a cash cow for doctors, and unnecessary, or they abandoned then to deliver ineffective covid vaccines to people who didn't need them (nothing whatsoever to do with still getting paid for the checks they weren't carrying out, and accumulating £20 a jab).

My regular Prostate check ups cancelled for 9 consecutive months, yet bombarded daily by text with offers of the Jab.

Andrew Bridgen is a fantastic MP that this country should cherish - the majority of his supine, nodding sheep colleagues aren't fiT to lace his boots.

He is well rid of that shocking excuse for a political party.

Cider--it's a funny old world

It was only the other day you were wetting yourself because you managed to buy some old mince pies for 45p

But once you come on this forum you seem to be an expert on every single subject including stocks and shares.

How can you're life be a relative failure when there is nothing you don't know.

the mince pies are/were frivolity my dear boy.

yes I know a fair amount about investing. it's up to others if they feel I have any expertise or not. some of my thoughts are on the 'buy the dip' thread on politics. all pre-timed. you are most welcome to post your thoughts, although I should imagine that's most unlikely.

it's your, not you are, btw. grammar expert too ;)

Jan 11, 2023 -- 3:09PM, mitolo wrote:

blimey. conspiracy loons ganging up. thikko grappler would never have wasted time on you if you hadnt put up the most absurd conspiracy bollox. and you know it. and you will never repeat it, will you? cos you now realise how foolish you made yourself look. and dats de troof.wouldnt know how to address a goose.

Did you know the term "conspiracy theory" was first brought into the public in 1964 by intelligence agenices during the warren commission overseeing the assassination of JFK.

recently US intelligence agencies effectively admitted they had him killed.

it's just such a lazy way of rebutting an argument, simply label something conspiracy theory, don't debate it, don't take in anything that might be true about them, just block them ALL out because conspiracies never happen in the magic fairy land some people live in. Rich and powerful people/companies conspiring with one another for their own gain.. IMPOSSIBRU!!!!!!!!!

The vaccinated only has the  "conspiracy theory" left to hang onto, if they read the data what's coming out right now they wouldn't sleep. Bluff is the only way now and hope they aren't the 1 in 800!

9/11, Sandy Hook, The Moon Landing, what exactly are these?

here comes the classic "some conspiracy theories are untrue narrative so they all must be" narrative. almost as weak as the initial label itself.

Maybe I'm just unlucky but in past 6 months, two family and one friend have just collapsed and died like these athletes have 28, 41, and 59  all healthy and fit individuals, needs looking into, something isn't right!!

WWTT, assuming all were vaccinated? Did any of them actually have covid? Definitely some odd events.

All three vaccinated, two out the three tested positive for covid but wasn't a big deal at the time(same signs as a cold), all three bouncing at the time they collapsed, one on way to swimming baths, one shopping with family and other visiting friends. Maybe it was just one of those million to one shots but reading peoples stories I know it's not!

The question is does covid insidiously weaken the heart, is it the vaccine or a particular type of vaccine, were your 3 just terrible coincidences? Plenty will come out over time no doubt.

Lots of questions and lots of answers but I fear with the silence from every top authority, it's not going to be good news. If covid weakened the heart then my heart should be weaker(had covid twice). Like I've wrote to various organisations who want to keep it quiet! I'm one of 9% who hasn't one jab, come and find us all because unless you were a hermit you would of got covid, test our hearts see if its the covid virus??? Not one respond, says it all.

And like I pointed out to the silence brigade, had flu twice in my life, surely my heart should be **** by now!! We've always had viruses, how we still here if the virus fuc  ked our hearts!!

My sister had covid badly and has scarred lungs which are still being monitored, she was classed as extremely vulnerable and had been jabbed right up. Who knows!

None of us know for sure but there's people who do, worst cover up in my lifetime imo.

I'm open minded about some aspects but it's a helluva lot of people across the globe to be involved in a cover up.

90% of population in uk had the jab, already got 90%, what has 10% ever done in history?

More than 10% of Greek/Roman/China empires didn't agree they didn't survive long.

Last time I shall look at this thread. It's shocking, saddening to see the vaxx still being defended in here despite all the evidence that its harmful.

I don't think anyone doubts that there have been adverse reactions and deaths from the vaccines but the real question that only science and stats will show over time is how many lives did they save?

They will never know that, so can claim any number they like.

Last time I shall look at this thread. It's shocking, saddening to see the vaxx still being defended in here despite all the evidence that its harmful.


Why don't you ahare ALL this evidence with us.You'll put the thread to bed with evidence.

One of the maim arguement by people against the lockdowns was that it was saving lives today at the cost of lives in the future.

These excess deaths of today are the ones that were predicted 30 months ago.

This thread is  very confusing - there being many more excess deaths is obviously to a bad thing but I'm struggling to work out what that has to do with covid. It is as a result of the mess the NHS is in - a mess that its been steadily reaching for the last 10 years as anyone that has used it over that time will tell. The vaccines obviously haven't caused the millions of deaths you lot thought/think as these figs show the increase is fairly uniform (type of death) across the board. What is the situation like in other countries as from what I've seen their health services are basically back to normal so why is the UK an outlier should be the question.

^Excess deaths isn't just the UK so with your theory we can rule out the mess of the NHS.

Anyway will leave this thread now as we are no experts which is why there needs to be a public debate on the excess deaths to find the truth why they are happening but I won't hold my breath.

Haven't seen one debate on Covid, or man made climate change, and I probably never will at my age.

Who thought all those years ago when David Icke appeared on Wogan that he would have so many followers 30 years later.

Ffs we all die…..bury or cremated  ? What do you fancy ffs

Heaven or hell….all punters go to hell….imv….

Do you think anyone questioning the efficacy and safety of this trial drug is an Icke supporter Hibore, seriously?

another one. no they didnt

Haven't seen one debate on Covid, or man made climate change,

When you think you've reached the limit on the stupidity of the comments on here you can always rely on saddo.

Maybe Icke is a little too radical. I wonder how many people on here like me had wives, sons and daughters who worked during the pandemic in hospitals trying to save COVID patients. The NHS staff treating them feared for their own lives throughout that period and many were unfortunately lost. The vaccine was a game changer. The vast majority of people they were treating 9 months later were unvaccinated which is why the misinformation brigade needed to be controlled. That is why most governments had to step in as a duty of care. When one of your love ones rings you after finishing a shift crying because someone they have been treating is so unwell and asking for a jab now when it is too late because they listened to social media and decided against it. It’s very sad when their situation MAY have been very different.

Post a link to any covid debate with opposing protagonists on the BBC, big gob.

^Excess deaths isn't just the UK so with your theory we can rule out the mess of the NHS.


My understanding is that excess deaths in other countries has pretty much abated - please feel free to post figs that show different. Feel free to post all the deaths from the vaccines and all the pics of crematoriums etc being over crowded. Obv don't include the Chinese ones as they are full as a result of covid but don't let that bother you.
Other countries health services are doing fine, their economies have generally grown, we are the outlier. In fact other countries seem to have moved on from covid in pretty much every respect yet our gov goes on and on as if it explains all the woes. TBF though you lot seem to have fallen for it so I can see why they keep the nonsense up.

Hibore, what is your definition of "unvaccinated"?

Anyone who hasn't had four jabs?

^Excess deaths isn't just the UK so with your theory we can rule out the mess of the NHS.

Don't remember mentioning the NHS and it wasn't my theory.
It was put foward by Hitchen,Lord Sumption and a few conservative MP amongst many others.

Well educated,successful and respected people not the bedsit geniuses you prefer to listen to.

Why do think lockdowns in other countries would have a different result to this country?

The country that stands out as having a lot fewer excess deaths than us is Sweden which took a different route.

When one of your love ones rings you after finishing a shift crying because someone they have been treating is so unwell and asking for a jab now when it is too late because they listened to social media and decided against it. It’s very sad when their situation MAY have been very different.

Number of times this happened?

Ages?

Co-morbidities?

Possible alternative causes?

autopsies in the absence of anything other than a clinical / dodgy PCR test diagnosis?

GEORGE.B 12 Jan 23 15:36 
Hibore, what is your definition of "unvaccinated

........................................



George, I think you are regarded as vaccinated if you had the first two jabs a couple of years ago, though I doubt that there'd be any protection from them after all this time.

Get a grip george ffs you're getting embarrassing.

Don't remember you criticising you're beloved Andrew Bridgen yesterday for the use of the word Holocaust.

Are that sick that you find that exceptable.

Thank you, saddo

So there is a time limit on it?

JML, what did he say exactly that was anti-Semitic?

No waffle please, exact quote only.

Cider 11 Jan 23 19:02 
duffy

many of the 'conspiracies' turned out to be correct. so you could call them predictions.

how about that the virus originated in a lab? which got you cancelled until sleepy Joe said that's what they actually think happened?

how about Fauci and his cronies conspiring to suppress/destroy/smear scientific voices against lockdowns?

how about the conspiracy that twatter was being paid by the authorities to cancel/throttle accounts that opposed the permitted covid narrative?

how about the conspiracy that the efficacy of covid vaccines were deliberately being oversold?

how about the conspiracy that the authorities would try and bring in vaccine passports?

how about the conspiracy that the authorities would bring in mandatory covid vaccination. Say hello to thousands of care workers that lost their jobs, praps not a conspiracy after all.


Ok, my question is.....WHY?

Don't remember saying it was anti-semetic.

You keep asking for evidence for this that or the other.

When are you going to provide evidence every time you say something?

JML 12 Jan 23 15:57 
Don't remember saying it was anti-semetic.

So what was your problem with what he said?

Please post the quote and explain.

As far as I'm aware he quoted a cardiologist, and it was an opinion.

george--if you have no problem in him using the word in that way,that's fair enough.

No No No simple george-he CLAIMED he was quoting a cardiologist.

JML 12 Jan 23 15:48 
Get a grip george ffs you're getting embarrassing.

Don't remember you criticising you're beloved Andrew Bridgen yesterday for the use of the word Holocaust.

Are that sick that you find that exceptable.

Please explain, what did you find "sick" about?

I think he quoted a cardiologist and it was an opinion.

I'm not responsible for what other grown adults say.

And unlike you, no-one gaslights the sh*t out of me.

I'm certain way more than 6 million will be killed by the shots so it's a fair comparison

No surprise that the word Holocaust brings Timber back.

wasn't long ago that he was claiming 5G was going to kill BILLIONS.

They said he mentioned "holocaust" and they're all angry about it, so I'm getting angry about it, and if georgeb isnt angry about it, i'm going to accuse him of being "sick"

Well they ya go, what can ya do, eh?

* Well there....

Jan 12, 2023 -- 4:19PM, JML wrote:

No surprise that the word Holocaust brings Timber back.wasn't long ago that he was claiming 5G was going to kill BILLIONS.

What??? You've got the wrong person ffs

local papers 3 young 41 32 39 just died unexplained fit and healthy in the house, shock its something rare its every week now

link?

why do people want to blindly believe what the authorities tell them, to suit the prevailing/permitted covid narrative at the time, duffy. not only do they want to believe it, they want to police other people that might not. as I've alluded to, these tactics are rooted in fascism.

why do people not realise when they are being gaslit?

the psychology around it is quite astonishing. hands, face, space. Disinfect your post and your shopping. Don't go near your gran. Put a mask on to go to the bog in a restaurant. 6 is good, 7 is illegal.

Sorry Timber --you were the one that spent 2 solid months with you're tongue firmly up Sidney Powell's arse.

Trump Mocked Sidney Powell's 'Crazy' **** Vote Tale, Hope Hicks
Told Committee

What she was saying was so ridiculous that Trump was rolling about laughing but you seemed to
believe every single word of it.

The staged and scripted exchange yesterday between Hancock (over 600 MPs in that chamber and look who they got to ask the question) and Sunak, was designed to gaslight people like JML and it worked, as evidenced on this thread.

But let me help you out here, JML. Bridgen hasn't been cancelled because of that tweet, he's been cancelled because he's been questioning the safety of the jabs. And yesterday, he presented them with a 'gift' that has enabled them to shut him up.

Know all--please provide link for the local deaths you mention.

You don't seriously expect anyone that have read this thread to take your word for anything.

For those that don't remember Timber is one who put his ar5e on the line for Trump and the reversal of the votes. I do not recall his position on 5g, but who knows.

Right blackburn - punting his income support money on a race that had finished weeks before.

Years after he claimed there was 30 million fraudulant votes if running total is about 30000005 short.

JML 10 Jan 23 15:38 
Not another breakdown George.

JML 11 Jan 23 15:45 
George on full tilt LaughLaugh

JML 12 Jan 23 15:48 
Get a grip george ffs you're getting embarrassing.
Are that sick that you find that exceptable.

JML 12 Jan 23 16:04 
No No No simple george

Now let this be a lesson to you all in the art of reasoned and rational debate from JML.

Just to recap:

I've had a breakdown, been on full tilt, described as sick, embarrassing and simple.

Thanks for the kind words, JML.

If this is your reasoned and rational debate george,you can keep it.

The year is 2030 and the face nappy brigade have just received the latest missive from their masters (the devolved local government).

It reads:

Your latest universal basic income pittance will be paid into your digital currency account upon compliance with the following:

1. Receipt of your 45th "booster".

2. You have travelled no further than a radius of 5 kilometers from your registered abode within the last 28 days.

3. You have completed all your your critical race theory and gender ideology modules online.

4. You have attended at least 2 drag queen classes within the last 28 days.

You've been exposed as an abusive keyboard warrior, JML, intolerant of anyone else's opinion that disagrees with your own.

Btw, that post is a prediction, maybe a little tongue in cheek, but who knows. Feel free to bring the post back up in 2031.

By the way george--you missed a line in the third example.

What I wrote was--

Get a grip george ffs you're getting embarrassing.

Don't remember you criticising you're beloved Andrew Bridgen yesterday for the use of the word Holocaust.

Are that sick that you find that exceptable.

You've been exposed as an abusive keyboard warrior, JML. For three days you've bullied and posted abuse at me. The unequivocal evidence has been posted above.

Yes george everything I've written is there for everyone to see---but so is everthing you've written.

He'd be on his arse 3 times a day if he actually spoke to people like that.

So you don't deny it. Well how could you when all of your bullying and abusive posts have been summarised into one post?

Indeed, saddo

pretty sure he would spot and avoid anyone resembling George.b super quickly IRL

The label-merchant finally turns up.

Any new ones from 77th HQ for us, Dave?

"triggered", I looked that one up on the urban dictionary.

What's baffling about this is that you lot have got a direct comparison with which to compare what is happening here and what is happening in a country that you thought here would be like but obv was never going to be.

Large economy? Check
Big pop? Check
V low rate of MRNA vaccine use? Check
Large health service? Check
Ridiculously strict lockdowns? Check

Unfortunately for you that country is China and is right royally fecked - see pics of crematoriums etc! They imposed lockdowns, kept them and didn't push vaccines esp the mrna ones that you lot are scared of. Unfortunately for you our lockdowns ended at about the right time and many people took up the vaccines while no one was sanctioned for not being vaccinated - other than the odd health worker and even they were all re-employed I believe.
You can't possibly argue that China is in a better place than even us and we are the poor man of Europe and the world when it comes to covid recovery among  big economies. Obv i'm not expecting any worthwhile answers to this as that would be far too hard for you - believe what you want but take a look at what is going on in China and have a think eh?

GEORGE.B • January 12, 2023 7:41 PM GMT

Any new ones from 77th HQ for us, Dave?

nice conspiracy/shill combo

Mr Bridgen has responded, and as some of the slurs against him were said outside of parliament, it would appear that legal action is being considered.

I hope the legal action proceeds as the weaponisation of labelling in order to silence people needs to be confronted imo.

https://twitter.com/thereclaimparty/status/1613555611719061508

Unbelievable posts on here !

What happened to Timber's link?

Just watching News irrespective what you think not nice in China.

Agree and 91% of China population are vaccinated!!

Seems like most like evidence -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOkss88K6O0

Davenumbers been recently banned but back as another forum shill.
still a coont

as someone who has a terminal condition i.e. it aint eva getting fixed and as sum1 that has had to use the nhs many times ova past few years -they do an amazing job - ive had all the jabs and respectively wear the nappy mask whilst doing so - wot is the negative for doing the opposite

There's a few on here what think they know it all, try to convince the lowlife(how the fcuk they know that I will never know) that they are conspiracy theorists while at the same time trying to convince fellow forum members that they can beat the roulette wheel. You really couldn't make this siht up.

Smiroff- fully respect your position and what you're going through, the treatment you have is so hard on the body and weakens the immune system so badly, saw it with a family member

Jan 15, 2023 -- 12:54AM, leif wrote:

Davenumbers been recently banned but back as another forum shill.still a coont

That's a lie and you're a c-nt.

I just feel sorry for most of the forum conspiritards, but I've got a feeling lief is a right bad'un.

Made an arse of himself in the kraken power threads and brags in politics about running 10 miles with a rucksack of weights, thinks he's in a dating forum.

dave1357 15 Jan 23 17:53 
I just feel sorry for most of the forum conspiritards


.....................

That's a bit disingenuous dave, you can't even partially conceal your contempt and loathing
for covid vaccine sceptics.

https://twitter.com/OzraeliAvi/status/1615768882014310400

Rumbustious scenes.

They think they're untouchable, reminds me of Al Capone in the 1930's.

In the future if my grand children were to ask me about my experience in the Covid Lockdown....... I would have to say that despite living in a part of the country that had some of the harshest restrictions due to high infection rates......I do not know one person who was ill with it ..........

Same here 626....dont know anyone personally who had it and died. Makes me think the whole thing was a big scam from the outset

I know a few who had it and were bed ridden for a few days. But there has been something going round here for the last couple of months and almost everyone I know has been bed ridden, some for a week or two. Why hasn't the country closed down?

NEW increased risk of stroke by dr john cambell and other things, the honest doctor well worth viewing and phiser was tested on 10 mice before being released before i had it allegedly, and the new one recommended for young kids lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YswaUoFEs8E