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there are no plans to place missiles all along the border and ukraine was a long way from nato. putin is the one who needs sectioning.
he started bullying ukraine in 2014 when it made overtures to the e.u, that well-known nazi organisation. he took crimea shortly after. you think that reasonable? he smashed up tiny georgia. hes been bumping people off worldwide for 20 years theres a reason the baltic states and now sweden and finland are lovers of nato. they are fed up with his cyberattacks and incursions into the baltic. you seem to think putin has a veto on nato membership. even aside from that, putin is a devotee of ivan ilyin(a nutcase pseudo-philosopher) and quotes him regularly. he clearly says ukraine is not a country and is part of russia. thats the root of it. he cannot countenance a free liberal eu member state next door shining a light on his murderous kleptocracy and those who run with fear of nato nonsense, on left and right are serving his agenda, albeit unwittingly. youve swallowed all the propaganda about fear of nato. you think it wants to invade russia? |
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@talkRADIO Defence Select Committee Chair and Tory MP Tobias Ellwood tells Julia that President Vladimir Putin's "days are now numbered". Tobias says "Europe is now at war" and the West needs to think about what more it can do as "Putin cannot afford to fail". Doesn't sound like Tobias is much interested in finding a rapid and peaceful solution to this disaster. |
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s.s- had no idea you are so sensitive. but your post was rubbish. call me anything you like, i wont burst into tears or complain.
what makes you think ive been banned? |
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gb back again. you thinks tobes wants more war? hes right about putin, as ive been boring on for years-he will never relinquish power and will die in the kremlin, adolf-style in the bunker. thats why hes so dangerous and 20 years of appeasement of him havent worked.
i well remember the fool obarmy sending hilda clinton to grovel before sergei lavrov, the worlds greatest liar, and proposing a 'reset' of east-west relations. it was effectively a capitulation and was saying we know youve been naughty, but we will let you off this time, lets start again. he responded with a s**** and putin did his utmost to install trump. entirely plausible the damage he did hacking hildas emale made the difference, but who knows? |
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cripes. you cant type s- n-i- g-g- e- r. although i can see why.
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Because nobody's called me fishface since 13 Apr 2021 when you supposedly first appeared.
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WARSAW, Poland — Polish government officials say that Poland has not sent, and will not send, its fighter jets to Ukraine to support Ukraine’s defense against Russia.
A deputy foreign minister, Marcin Przydacz, says in an interview on Radio Zet: “We will not open our airports and Polish planes will not fight over Ukraine … Polish planes will not fight over Ukraine.” Thankfully some leaders have common sense. Again, this is the US encouraging Poland to help intensify the war in Ukraine. When, instead the west should be trying to defuse the situation. The Biden administration are fully in bed with the Weapons industry so this comes as no surprise. Why can't the rest of Europe see that America is fanning the flames of this war. Now we have a situation whereby the abhorrent Kamala Harris is visiting Europe to do some more work for the Arms industry. GFTO! |
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President Putin raised these arguments again in his annual news conference
on 23 December 2021: We remember, as I have mentioned many times before and as you know very well, how you promised us in the 1990s that [NATO] would not move an inch to the East. You cheated us shamelessly: there have been five waves of NATO expansion, and now the weapons systems I mentioned have been deployed in Romania and deployment has recently begun in Poland. This is what we are talking about, can you not see? We are not threatening anyone. Have we approached US borders? Or the borders of Britain or any other country? It is you who have come to our border, and now you say that Ukraine will become a member of NATO as well. Or, even if it does not join NATO, that military bases and strike systems will be placed on its territory under bilateral agreements. This is the point. At the heart of Russia’s new proposals on security guarantees, therefore, are three fundamental premises: • That NATO will not expand any further eastward, including accepting Ukraine as a Member State. • That US/ NATO will cease bilateral military cooperation, including the basing of military infrastructure, in countries of the former Soviet Union that are not already members of NATO, including Ukraine. |
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They must have thought he was A) Bluffing or B) It's playing out EXACTLY how the US want it to.
The US would be completely fine with this War simmering along for months or even years. They've got Boris the chump and most of the Western leaders completely in their pocket on this too. Send unlimited supplies, food and medical and let Ukraine citizens live in the rest of the EU until this war is over. But no way should Western countries be sending Ukraine weapons and fighter jets! FFS! let this War peter out with the minimum of lives lost, which it will if Ukraine aren't given an endless supply of weapons. |
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because he says something, it doesnt make it true. he said there were no russian troops in crimea. he said there were none in eastern ukraine.
you make him sound like a reasonable person with legitimate concerns. nato does not want to attack russia. one thing he cannot say is that he doesnt reognise ukraine as a state and that he will make it part of russia, whether they like it or not. so he uses the nato excuse. and theres little doubt his lifelong kgb mindset is part of it. cynical and mistrusting beyond belief, much like salin was. |
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hard to credit how wrong or how great an erbert you are wp. the u.s to blame as ever. they want this war to go on for years? course they do. unbelievable juvenile ignorant tripe.
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Do some research on the Biden family's connection with Ukraine. And the Biden administration connection with he Weapons Industry. I can't post it because some clown mod deletes it on here.
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Mitolo the hardware is already in place , a move that was only ever going to result in conflict
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drivel
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its resulted in conflict because of putin being a fanatic. if there was a democrat in the kremlin it woulndt be happening. you seem very sympathetic to the loon. please dont say you are being a realist, the usual answer. hes not a realist or reasonable. this was inevitable when he took over and made himself president for life.
he writings read like mein kampf. that was ignored. |
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NATO forces along the Eastern border there are 12000 NATO and American troops deployed along with 22 fighter jets in the region along with a "ballistic defence center( ha ha) in Romania along with another being built in Poland is hardly "drivel is it "
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you forget every country that has any nato troops or hardware has requested it and in the case of poland offered to pay for a lot more. they dont want to attack russia. they fear putin. cant understand why. the president of estonia said 14 years ago he would try and reclaim ukraine. he was accused of wramongering and russophobia. he was correct.
if nato didnt exist hed have grabbed ukraine. russia annexing ukraine and belarus is the bare minimum for him. hes nicked bits of georgia and moldova also but you dont hear about that. |
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the citizens of almost every former soviet EU state are better off than Russians. That is what pootin hates and wants to destroy.
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america's main involvment in the war in syria was to take out ISIS
No. America's policy was to take out Assad. This meant Assad had to concentrate his forces on the American proxy armies of 'moderate' islamists. |
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the gangster states devoid of humanity whom play games with real people and kill them , need to be dismantled . clearly Putin worded xi , watch this mate ima taking back the Ussr and i,m gonna control europe after your games ! xi is like ok lets see that then i,m gonna do it ......after you . Both Russia and china need to be split up into many small countries and de-nuclearized . dont buy chinese goods your funding a tyrant
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glue?
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yes glue ! righteousness . obviously a long way off , but , needs to happen . Or continue to spend with them and become a gimp !
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sick foks whom don't believe in liberty want to take it off you and are using all possible threats they can to cower you . Dont be cowed by bullies . were the most powerful union , fck corruption , we should be looking at this as a opportunity to cleanse . get a backbone . these gangsters that came out of the curtain of decency cos their that confident we will bow ! no . not only will russia lose . it will lose its state , it will become 20 different countries
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think its time to buy an electric car
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AAA Batts
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^ Nickel gone through the roof electric cars to fly up in price
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just get a good condition used one as a temp fix
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there are no plans to place missiles all along the border and ukraine was a long way from nato. putin is the one who needs sectioning.
he started bullying ukraine in 2014 when it made overtures to the e.u, that well-known nazi organisation. he took crimea shortly after. you think that reasonable? he smashed up tiny georgia. hes been bumping people off worldwide for 20 years theres a reason the baltic states and now sweden and finland are lovers of nato. they are fed up with his cyberattacks and incursions into the baltic. you seem to think putin has a veto on nato membership. even aside from that, putin is a devotee of ivan ilyin(a nutcase pseudo-philosopher) and quotes him regularly. he clearly says ukraine is not a country and is part of russia. thats the root of it. he cannot countenance a free liberal eu member state next door shining a light on his murderous kleptocracy and those who run with fear of nato nonsense, on left and right are serving his agenda, albeit unwittingly. youve swallowed all the propaganda about fear of nato. you think it wants to invade russia? great post. |
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https://www.britannica.com/event/Holodomor
Can you imagine history repeating and how angry you'd feel. |
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For Ilyin, any talk about a Ukraine separate from Russia made one a mortal enemy of Russia. He disputed that an individual could choose their nationality any more than cells can decide whether they are part of a body.[6]
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When countless lives are lost and the country is wrecked. What then? Wouldn't it be better to back down. He won't be in power forever and the next guy in might be more forward thinking and be more open to the Ukraine joining the EU/Nato. Common sense has never been in shorter supply in 2022(Nap)
The previous guys were more forward thinking. Yeltsin, Gorbachev etc. And as a result Ukraine gave up their nuclear missiles in the early 90's under the assurance that they would be protected by the east AND the west. At that time the Ukraine arsenal was 1/3 of the former soviet republics total warheads. We can't let Putin's regressive ambitions go unchecked in the hope that, eventually, someone better comes along |
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I agree that for the sake of humanity, Zelensky must find an acceptable (to Putin) compromise, while he still has a few chips left to bargain with. He must know that Putin will not stop short of using nuclear or chemical weapons, after which Ukraine would cease to be!
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how ukraine must regret giving up its nukes.
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Yeah Zelensky must know there will be nothing left of the country if this goes on for many weeks longer. It clearly is US policy to help him give Russia a tough time. It would have been better not to supply Russia with weapons imo. Get it over fast without risking a wider war with Nato countries. But US wants to damage Russia and make it a pariah & not supplying gas to Europe.
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* not to supply Ukraine
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The US have been rumbled. They've been funding a Bioweapons Lab in Ukraine. How would America feels if the boot was on the other foot? This War has been instigated by the US and if you do some research on the kind of people who make up the Biden Administration, then it all becomes clear why they want this War.
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course they do. luckily for them, the fool putin fell for it and invaded. what a mug. how could he not see he was being tricked?
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SEN. MARCO RUBIO: Does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons?
VICTORIA NULAND: Ukraine has a biological research facilities, which, In fact, we are now quite concerned Russian troops, Russian forces, may be seeking to gain control of. So, we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach. Why does a poor country like Ukraine have "biological research facilities" and why are they're so concerned about the "research materials" falling into the hands of Russian forces? So, it's not just basic research, its actually some really nasty stuff. |
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US media continues coverup of State Department admission of biological weapons labs in Ukraine
Kevin Reed 9 hours ago The Biden administration and the corporate media are continuing to cover up the acknowledgment by Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland that biological weapons laboratories have been operating in Ukraine under US direction. During her testimony before a hearing of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Tuesday, when asked by Senator Marco Rubio (Republican of Florida), “Does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons?,” Nuland responded that there are “biological research facilities” in the country. While she did not discuss prior US government involvement in these facilities—and Senator Rubio also did not ask her about this—Nuland said that the State Department is “working with the Ukrainians on how we can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach.” As the scripted exchange continued, Senator Rubio said reports that Russia had, “uncovered a plot by the Ukrainians to unleash biological weapons in the country, and with NATO’s coordination,” were propaganda. Then Nuland went on to say that “it is a classic Russian technique to blame the other guy for what they are planning to do themselves.” As numerous international news outlets began reporting Nuland’s comments as confirmation that US-backed biological weapons labs did in fact exist in Ukraine as the Russians have maintained, the State Department was forced to issue a denial on Wednesday in an official statement by department spokesperson Ned Price. Price did not confirm or deny or even refer to the statements by Nuland. Instead, he wrote that the Kremlin is, “intentionally spreading outright lies that the United States and Ukraine are conducting chemical and biological weapons activities in Ukraine.” He called the Russian reports “disinformation,” and “total nonsense,” that had been “debunked conclusively and repeatedly over many years.” Price then repeated the claims made in a lengthy tweet on Wednesday by White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki, stating that the US, “does not own or operate any chemical or biological laboratories in Ukraine” and is in full compliance with both the Biological and Chemicals Weapons Conventions of the UN. Price also said that Russia has a “track record of accusing the West of the very crimes that Russia itself is perpetrating.” None of these assertions were backed up with substantiating facts or evidence. At a press conference on Wednesday, Pentagon spokesman John Kirby was asked by a reporter—once again without mentioning Victoria Nuland’s comments—to explain, “to us what the relationship if any, there was between the Pentagon and the Ukrainian side on any biological labs,” and, “When was the last cooperation and what do you say about these Russian accusations?” Kirby refused to answer the question and replied by saying the Russian accusations were “absurd” and “laughable,” and added, “There’s nothing to it. It’s classic Russian propaganda. And, and I wouldn’t, if I were you, I wouldn’t give it a drop of ink worth paying attention to.” As of Thursday evening, no national daily newspaper in the US—including the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal and USA Today—had reported on the statements of Nuland before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on Tuesday. CNN buried Nuland’s comments in an article on Thursday that accused China of promoting “Russian disinformation.” In its summary of the events on day thirteen of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, the Times mentioned Victoria Nuland’s Senate testimony, but only concerning the proposal from Poland to deploy Soviet-era MiG-29 aircraft to the US airbase in Germany. Fox News aired a 16-minute segment by Tucker Carlson on Wednesday evening that included a clip of Nuland’s testimony and accused the Biden administration and Pentagon of lying about Ukrainian bio labs for reasons connected with the network’s promotion of the Wuhan lab conspiracy theory about the origins of the coronavirus pandemic. The State Department replied to an inquiry by Fox News stating, “The US Department of Defense does not own or operate biological weapons labs in Ukraine. Under Secretary Nuland was referring to Ukrainian diagnostic and biodefense laboratories during her testimony which are not biological weapons facilities. These institutions counter biological threats throughout the country.” Late Wednesday, Newsweek published a report saying an unnamed State Department official had “clarified” the nature of the “biological research facilities” mentioned by Nuland that were “at the center of dueling accusations between US and Russian officials.” It is very clear that the exposure of US-sponsored biological warfare operations in Ukraine explodes the entire narrative concocted by the Biden administration and faithfully propagandized by the corporate media that Russia is solely responsible for the present war crisis. The anonymous State Department spokesperson admitted this fact to Newsweek, saying that the US has maintained all along that, “Russia is continuing to invent false pretexts to justify their horrific actions in Ukraine. Neither the United States nor NATO has any desire or intention for conflict with Russia.” Recognizing expressions of culpability in the hysterical denials emanating from the US, UK and Ukrainian officials, the head of the Russian delegation at the Vienna Negotiations on Military Security and Arms Control, Konstantin Gavrilov, described the reactions to allegations about the bio labs as “amazing.” In an interview with the Russian language Rossiya-24 outlet, Gavrilov added that he had seen nothing like it in his 30-year diplomatic career. Referring to representatives of the Organization of Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), of which all four countries are a part, Gavrilov said “they have done everything to evade the issue in their speeches, emphasizing that Russia is conducting a war, aggression, twisting the facts and everything like that. Both in the media and here.” “Nothing new. But they are avoiding this topic in every possible way,” Gavrilov added. “We raised it proactively and generated a flurry of reactions.” Documents have been published by the National Pulse that show the Obama administration signed an agreement with Ukraine for the construction of biolabs handling “especially dangerous pathogens.” The documents, which have since been removed, include a post from June 18, 2010, entitled, “Biolab Opens in Ukraine” explains how Barack Obama while serving as an Illinois Senator helped negotiate an agreement to build a Level 3 bio-safety lab in the Ukrainian city of Odessa. The National Pulse also quotes a 2011 report from the US National Academy of Sciences which said, “This laboratory was reconstructed and technically updated up to the BSL-3 level through a cooperative agreement between the United States Department of Defense and the Ministry of Health of Ukraine that started in 2005. The collaboration focuses on preventing the spread of technologies, pathogens, and knowledge that can be used in the development of biological weapons.” The report went on, “The updated laboratory serves as Interim Central Reference Laboratory with a depozitarium (pathogen collection). According to Ukrainian regulations, it has a permit to work with both bacteria and viruses of the first and second pathogenic groups.” The lab provided “special training for specialists on biosafety and biosecurity issues during handling of dangerous biological pathogenic agents.” As with all Pentagon-directed technologies, operations and facilities, the use of the terms “defense,” “security” and “safety” are euphemisms for US imperialist strategic military superiority and war preparations. For example, in March 2017, when hackers breached the CIA’s cybersecurity servers, nearly 9,000 documents were stolen from what was called “Vault 7.” These documents were essentially a massive arsenal of offensive malware, viruses and weaponized “zero day” exploits that had been part of the CIA’s international hacking and cyberwarfare operations. See, I use facts and don't resort to emotional outbursts. What a complete clown you are Mitolo |
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It is very clear that the exposure of US-sponsored biological warfare operations in Ukraine explodes the entire narrative concocted by the Biden administration and faithfully propagandized by the corporate media that Russia is solely responsible for the present war crisis.
I have nothing else to say on this. |