Only a matter of time before a BBC or ITV journalist is killed live on tv......why do bosses allow them to report the news in the most dangerous of situations.....absolutely barmy imo.

G Hall • February 24, 2022 2:42 PM GMT
It's none of our business, it's all to do with currency, and it's also being media driven.

this must take the prize for the most stupid post in the history of betfair forum.

From how I understand it. This is all about Ukraine wanting to join Nato. They have a corrupt political system so they should be told a straight no. This would probably put an end to it and Putin would withdraw his troops. WW3 could then postponed until a much later date!

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They've just spent years agreeing to rely on them for energy dave, now they've called their ambassador in for a chat. He holds more cards than them short term. They are not very savvy, if this blows over energy supplies will still be at risk for the foreseeable future.

Putin has said that if the west tries to intervene they will suffer consequences not yet experienced...or words to that effect!!

So how much has he lost the plot, I listened to some "expert" the other day stating that Putin was not a madman, he was an opportunist! Well, he's lurching more toward the madman side now, if things got bad for Putin and he felt humiliation, what would he be capable of?? Could it be that if the unthinkable became a possible there would be a faction from within that rested power away from him?

Russia has been highly critical of Ukraine’s attempt to join the NATO defence alliance, stating that the expansion of the group eastwards would cause “security threats” to the country.

President Putin has claimed that the US broke a 1990 guarantee that they would not allow NATO to expand any further East, claiming that the US had “deceived” Russia.

NATO has expanded into central and eastern European since 2004, including four countries - Poland, Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia - who share a border with Russia.

He has also accused NATO of providing Ukrainian forces with weapons in the ongoing conflict


The guy is already seething. Why push him any further?

rasputin is a 22-year dictator and president for life. he uses the judiciary to close down all opposition and his secret police to break every international law. he exports corruption and and mayhem. he murders all who stand up to him, wherever they are. he bullies and attacks small states like the baltics with massive cyber-warfare, interferes in foreign elections, pours out millions of false messages from troll farms while cracking down on his own media.

he ignores agreements, manufactures grievances and complains the west is out to get him. like everything he says, its all lies. he faces no threat from ukraine, or nato. what he fears is a free ukraine that shines a light on his grotesque kleptocracy that has massively enriched him and his chums, who use the state as a giant piggy bank. its no accident that he stole crimea in 2014 the year after ukraine made noises about joining the well-known aggressive nazi organisation, the e.u. that was it for him.

thats when we should have done everything we could to stop him. instead we came up with mealy-mouthed platitudes and he laughed. he only respects power. 8 years on he is emboldened by appeasement. it didnt work with adolf, and wont here. hes on record as saying ukraine is not a real country and belongs to russia. hes been biting off bits of ukraine ever since.

the nonsense about nato is a red herring. his actions in the baltic have made sweden nervous and they are beefing up their armed forces and thinking of joining nato. whys that? because nato is a defensive alliance and its founding principle is that no member will attack another, and if one is attacked, then all the others will defend it. that why rasputin hates it. he had to act to stop ukraine even getting near it, even though it was a long way off.

how the ukraine must regret being deceived into giving up its nuclear capability. we wouldnt be here otherwise

russian coppers flying around kiev

The guy wants control to build a stronger Russian and hold the west to ransom. Sooner oil and Gas is replaced by a more sustainable source, the weaker they become.

Has anyone heard a response from China? Sanctions won't be as effective if China keeps supplying

them.

Think Europe-EU-UK should all stick together , UK on its own will be easing pickings for Russia and a bit like Belarus would be a ideal platform to attack Europe from the West.
Huge Russian money in London , just look at Chelsea Football club , Russia is planted here already .

UEFA has moved the fussyball.  Putin has ordered Russian troops to surrender and has begged for the fussyball to be moved back to Russia.

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I like it when forumites become abusive, resort to insults etc. They are identifying themselves as .. well, never mind but I simply block them, life's too short

China watching the situation- eyes on Taiwan!

Mr B. More chance of Lord Lucan riding Shergar landing on earth on a meteorite while being serenaded by Elvis Presley than NATO boots on the ground! Won't risk nuclear confrontation when Putin the unpredictable is in control.

I hope you're right Slicer.

It's not just nuclear confrontation, it's whatever weapons they have nowadays. How far have they advanced since WW2?
Probably off the scale, probably got stuff people know nowt about.

dustybin 25 Feb 22 13:26 
What did they join up for?

Protect Queen and country, and maybe the Commonwealth?
Oh, and whatever military pacts / treaties our oh so wise leaders have signed up to?

eg NATO

I think they have got it all upside down

The commentators said Ukraine wouldnt be allowed into NATO because of Russia.
Thats exactly why they WOULD want to join.
Finding the excuse for them not to be in NATO because everyone would be forced to act is the cop out of cop outs.