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By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 18 Jul 21 15:13
What accusations have I made elise? Be specific

Don't come aggressive with me. You won't win
By:
elise
When: 18 Jul 21 15:14
ive just seem max verstappen deliberately drive into a wall, must have a big lay on betfair
By:
elise
When: 18 Jul 21 15:15
you are questioning his actions which is against the stewards findings, instead of posing a question everytime it becomes difficult to answer why don't you post what you actually think rather than chucking snidey accusations?
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 18 Jul 21 15:16
You've deliberately missed my point.
I'm not going to repeat it.
Specify an accusation pls.
I'll wait for this.
By:
elise
When: 18 Jul 21 15:16
it's above, read it
By:
elise
When: 18 Jul 21 15:17
and the question ive asked is what are you doing about your concerns?
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 18 Jul 21 15:19
Quote the accusation.
Now
You made the claim, back it up
By:
elise
When: 18 Jul 21 15:19
so i'll take that as you've done nothing
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 18 Jul 21 15:21
I'll take that as there is no accusation and you are lying
Quote me it or apologise
By:
DancingBraveTheBest
When: 18 Jul 21 15:29
I lost 60 pound on Crehans mistake and was gutted but these things happen. No way in my eyes was it intentional. An awful mistake and as a human as all humans we are not infallible. Ive made too many mistakes to mention but all we can do is learn from them which is what Mark Crehan will do.
By:
elise
When: 18 Jul 21 15:38
i agree with the stewards findings, you are the one with the questions about his personal situation/actions, i'm asking you what you've done about your concerns, so what have you done?
By:
elise
When: 18 Jul 21 15:39
just remind me why you use this account rather than your other one?
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 18 Jul 21 15:46
No no no noooooo Elise
Lets deal with you accusing me of making claims on here
Now stop backing yourself in a corner and quote me the claims you say I've made
Don't make yourself look a liar. Quote me

BTW I congratulated the stewards on imposing the max they could
So i agreed with their fine/decision

Now stop deflecting and find my "libellous" claim
I gather this is where you're going with this oh so clever tactic
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 18 Jul 21 15:48
What other account
Is this another one of those instances where you "know" ive another account and know nothing because it is not correct?

You are tying yourself up in knots elise. Sad to see
By:
elise
When: 18 Jul 21 15:50
so if you're happy with the stewrads (as you post) we'll ignore your other posts asking questions and we can move on knowing that the lad made a mistake, glad you cleared that up
By:
elise
When: 18 Jul 21 15:51
what other account lol .... nice
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 18 Jul 21 15:53
Jumping-cuckoo-monk

We don't know that it was error
Hoping it is so, doesn't mean questions shouldn't be asked
There are exchanges now that influence results nowadays
We have absolutely no idea what circumstances the jockey is in. What causes people to do extraordinary things.

Well done the stewards.
By:
elise
When: 18 Jul 21 15:55
Jumping-cuckoo-monk

We don't know that it was error
Hoping it is so, doesn't mean questions shouldn't be asked
There are exchanges now that influence results nowadays
We have absolutely no idea what circumstances the jockey is in. What causes people to do extraordinary things.
Well done the stewards.
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 18 Jul 21 15:56
No quote then elise?
No libellous remark to back up your lie?
Dear me.
Have some backbone man and apologise.

Bit of advice for you
Read what is said and not what you think is said
Save you a bit of trouble later on.

What's my other account?
Can only have 1 on here.
Ask live chat
You got another 1?
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 18 Jul 21 15:57
How is that an accusation elsie?
I'll wait
By:
elise
When: 18 Jul 21 15:58
ive posted your comments and just changed your highlighted sections, if you agree he made a mistake fine, if you'd like to insinuate otherwise feel free to tell me where you're going with it
By:
elise
When: 18 Jul 21 15:59
and if you go up and read, i called you snidey i'll stick with that, i've got a bbq to light
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 18 Jul 21 16:03
That's not how this works
That is not an accusation
You've turned it into an "insinuation" which is still incorrect but backtracking  as is your wont.
I presented a hypothetical, to undermine the arrogance of the people who "know" it was an error
Deliberately missing the point is an old tactic.

What is my other username?
Have some spine to answer this at least.
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 18 Jul 21 16:05
So now I'm snidey
What a come down
You are a liar elise.
Don't do it again.
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 18 Jul 21 16:06
What is my other name btw?
Is this where you say it and so it must be true?
You "know" it
What a joker Laugh
By:
DancingBraveTheBest
When: 18 Jul 21 16:07
FFS.....lifes too short
By:
Charlton2005
When: 18 Jul 21 16:09
the guys that tracked kaczinsky down texted me to say "lfc"
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 18 Jul 21 16:10
lfc doesn't frequent horsey forum do he?
By:
The Knight
When: 19 Jul 21 12:24
shoodacoodadidnt18 Jul 21 09:06  (Love that user name BTW). Yes, you make a reasonable point. We do live in a society where cheating etc is more common than it was. But in this instance, surely he could have found a way to be less obvious?

However, taking your point overall. Although still tiny as a percentage of the whole, why are we going through a series of weigh-in problems the past eighteen months or so?

It greatly amuses me that so many are convinced that there has been a huge conspiracy against the masses, from the JFK killing through to the Moon Landings, Covid and now this jockey, but say almost nothing about the recent issues at the scales. Issues which take far more explaining than a young jockey making a clear balls-up. Lumps of lead do not disappear inside a matter of minutes using any science I know of!
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 19 Jul 21 13:12
The kid was probably innocent
Don't drag up conspiracy nonsense to belittle the idea that blind acceptance should be compulsory when you are guessing no matter how much the odds are in your favour.
I question most things. And you don't decide whether I do or not.
You hinted at a conspiracy theory yourself there concerning loss of weight.
That doesn't seem to be amusing you greatly.
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 19 Jul 21 13:15
Btw, plenty comment on the loss of weight issues on the day with their thoughts on threads.
You seriously don't think these issues go unnoticed on here?
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 19 Jul 21 13:16
blind acceptance *shouldn't* be compulsory
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 19 Jul 21 13:20
Issues in racing that undermine its credibility

1) jockeys taking wrong course
2) jockeys weighing in light
3) jockeys not weighing in at all
4) misaligned mirrors in use on photo-finishes
5) indiscernible photos due to poor light at 4 pm
6) inconsistent stewarding on similar infractions

^^^ all within very recent living memory

any otters?
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 19 Jul 21 13:22
7) jockeys riding finishes a circuit too early or easing up before finish line
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 19 Jul 21 13:42
apologies @ knight for my somewhat overbearing tone
I think the crehan thing (non-event) was sort of the straw that broke the camel's back after events last month or so
Sad
By:
DancingBraveTheBest
When: 19 Jul 21 13:53
Jockeys going too fast in a race. Jockeys leading on hold up horses or holding up front runners....you see it all the time. Many ways not to win if you dont want to.
By:
Gordon63
When: 19 Jul 21 15:24
not a great ride there either, in wrong position all the way up the straight
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 19 Jul 21 22:36
i will reiterate what i said on the night this happened..anyone who thinks this was intentional needs sectioned.
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 19 Jul 21 23:38
You aint no doctor.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 19 Jul 21 23:43
who?
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