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the guy with the blue jacket on the winning line looks mortified
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Genuine mistake and if anyone thinks he sat up on purpose to pick up a 28 day ban they need sectioning
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Seriously, too many on here should not be GAMBLING to start with. Things go wrong, things go right and some punters benefitted from the error while it cost others.
It was a dreadful error, he had ridden in earlier races tonight BUT he made a human error. For those screaming that it is 'his profession' and calling for draconian punishments, I'd bet the self same posters do not actually have profession themselves and probably exist in dead-end jobs. Anyone who has a profession carries responsibility and if they make a bad error others will be affected, even hurt. I was a mainframe computer programmer for many years for the big banks and, in my learning years, dropped a huge clanger when I re-processed some files by mistake. It cost the bank involved two days trading, tens of thousands of pounds and many other staff a lot of work to put it right. But I learned from what I had done and, eventually, got over it (although I could not sleep for a week to start with). Every professional in every field has made a bad error and let us hope this jockey has now made his and will learn from it. Gutting for punters but at 61 after 48 years of gambling I have learned to suck it up when things go against me, however bad (like El Gran Senor in the 1984 Derby, or Dancing Brave in 1986) and that's what a lot on here need to do now. |
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Spot on, The Knight.
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And i backed both Gran Senor ( in a £40 double with Adonijah 5/4 ) and Dancing Brave , although Eddery's was by far the worse of the two rides.
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stewarty b 17 Jul 21 18:50
I did say 30 years tongue in cheek but 3 months surely. Can you imagine having a few bob on and it's your last bet? Has to be punished. stewyb..probably the most clueless degenerate in the forum..absolute cringe. |
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Apart from the knights admirable post to save the kid
No one has posted that he rode in the 2 previous races, one of the worst mistakes I’ve ever seen, up their with the great Kieron’s bent decision at lingfield |
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So how on earth can anyone on here or the stewards argue that crehan mistook the half furlong marker, when he rode in the 2 previous races?
Nonsense imo it stinks |
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stinks? you honestly think hes gona do that intentionally whilst riding for stoute?
pmsl your in the clown league with stewyb. |
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Cost me 15 quid but like you say these things happen.
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Rico-Dangleflaps17 Jul 21 21:32Joined: 07 Sep 18 | Topic/replies: 4,149 | Blogger: Rico-Dangleflaps's blog
stewarty b 17 Jul 21 18:50 I did say 30 years tongue in cheek but 3 months surely. Can you imagine having a few bob on and it's your last bet? Has to be punished. stewyb..probably the most clueless degenerate in the forum..absolute cringe. Simpleton steve takes the bait again. He's so daft he doesn't even know he's simple. |
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ahh you were fishing? silly me.
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Where was the shadow half an hour earlier, previous race. If it was roughly with finishing line, may have acted as some subconscious marker. Probably unlikely since sun will set faster then that at that time :-~ Maybe an evening meeting earlier in the week, as sun setting, shadow across stands corresponded with finishing line and trigger went. Otherwise, sometimes brainfarts just happen though.
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Since shadow would move quickly, maybe even going down to start it corresponded with finishing line, and he subconsciously noted it.
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The brain is a funny thing.
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The Knight's points are well made. Considerate. Still, there are certain jockeys who, for me, have bigger question marks over them than others. For me, this guy is one of those. I've been disappointed with his efforts MANY times and yet, he is clearly a VERY capable jockey running at a 14% strike rate. I've found over the years that it's often the better jockeys who disappoint you. I imagine they are just MUCH better at doing exactly what they are instructed to do, in this corrupt sport, than others. It may seem far fetched that he made this 'mistake' intentionally, but the drift is bizarrely coiincidental. Of course, I'll be told it's crazy to suggest such a thing. But it's like suggesting that jockeys would never jump off when unbelievable jockeys from the past have told us that definitely happened in their day. A perfectly capable jockey is able to 'slip' off safely, even at speed on the right ground. Anyhoo.... I'm waffling a bit BUT I'm just saying you can never discount ANY possibilty in this game where the stakes are VERY high and humans have every opportunity to scam.
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If you listen to half the clowns on here, then every losing favourite is a bent ride.
He made a complete hash of it. It certainly wasn’t done to get his horse beat and clean up financially. |
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This type of mistake seems to happen more frequently nowadays than it ever used to . Am open to correction but don't recall it ever happening in the 60s,70s, 80s.
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doesnt happen frequently...prob no half furlong markers in past decades.
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People tend to forgiving in these situations if they weren't burnt financially.
Has Mark Crehan ridden at doncaster before with the 1/2 furlong indicator in place? |
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No television either. And way fewer meetings too.
Even so, I can remember Pat Eddery easing up at Bath one afternoon in the 1970s on the BBC, and Trevor Rogers catching him. Julian Wilson's comment was that Eddery was caught out by a hungrier jockey. |
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No half-furlong pole at Doncaster when Nijinsky landed the Triple Crown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP-2PgY4nPM |
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i came out of a restaurant, my wife had left a few mins earlier with 2 friends and had gone to our car, i wandered over and hopped into the passenger seat and said, that was a nice meal , looking to my right there was an old man sat where my wife should have been and in the back were 2 old women and a terrier, no one said a word said a word as i stepped out of the car and walked to the one behind where my wife and 2 friends were waiting
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We don't know that it was error
Hoping it is so, doesn't mean questions shouldn't be asked There are exchanges now that influence results nowadays We have absolutely no idea what circumstances the jockey is in. What causes people to do extraordinary things. Well done the stewards. |
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hardly going to ignore it were they?
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Imo if your saying he could have meant it, I would be awaiting the white van coming to take you away.
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Gave him the max. Some on here would want him to go to counselling on full pay by their tone
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Insulting me wont wash Dealer.
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The need for 2 winning posts at Sandown has always escaped me and I do recall mistakes being made as a result of their positioning. In my opinion there should be only ever 1 winning post ;if races are a few feet too long/short does it actually matter. Regarding half furlong poles they are entirely pointless and certainly don't recall seeing any in the 1990s or earlier.
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It's not an insult, it's my opinion of your train of thought.
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Posy, there hasn't been two winning posts at Sandown for years.
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I think you are incredibly naive.
okay with that Dealer? |
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Of course I am, with both points
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Thank you screaming ; any idea when 2 became 1.
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it's a rational thing you might ask the question and quite rightly, but the common sense / intelligent part of you should be able to determine if you think he'd want to chuck a race 100 yds from the line and highlight it when he could have done the lay pre race and hidden his actions in the run? the kid made an error for whatever reason, the punishment is correct and he'd hopefully learn from it
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okay, racing is on.
Michael Tabor have any horses out today? |
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100 % Elise
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all I am questioning is the blind acceptance of error and arrogance to think one SKNOW what is going through someone else's mind.
anyway, he won't do it again. |