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tiger tiger; You did not quote the box headline from the page;
We shouldn't treat our politicians like criminals (yes, I'm guilty as charged ) |
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A statement of "lets fund the NHS instead" does not mean all the money goes to the NHS
Political opportunism abound, it's lying Remember the others? 'Strong and stable' 'All in it together' The list is perhaps very long actually but they were the two latest attempts at manipulation and neither were remotely true....but it seems truth doesnt matter |
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Correct ^
That's the good thing about Jo Swinson, no lies. What you see is what you get. She's in it for the many, not the few.. |
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...well, im not 100% sure I agree there JD
They are just as opportunistic, they are being the oposite to the brexit party who only have 1 agenda, cancel brexit because they've seen a chance to snaffle nearly 50% of the votes they wouldnt come close to getting in ordinary times |
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A statement of "lets fund the NHS instead" does not mean all the money goes to the NHS
Political opportunism abound, it's lying We send £350 million gross to the EU, so not factually correct as what everyone would like, but lets fund the NHS is not lying surely ? We send £200 million net each and every week, im sure theyre happy in the back of beyond with their new roads, ive walked round some areas in Spain on the islands and they've beautifyl new funded EU roads and highways whilst we are struggling in pot hole city, isn't it about time we started funding our own people. our own communities, our NHS etc I remember the world was going to fal in when we didn't join the Euro, didn't do too bad did we |
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Most are dusty, can't argue with that but Jo has put her neck on the line to try save the country, knowing fine well the flack
she was going to cop from the brexiteers, most of them who did not know what the fk they were voting for |
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NHS I'm afraid is 'weaponised' rhetoric, its a clarion call that happens to have been stolen when it suits them. Our roads are also funded by the EU, as was the money they gave to raise living standards of the poor which the tories handed back unspent. What the EU do best is bring collective rules which forces out tax evasion, the tory funders dont much like that sort of thing. |
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Most don't know what theyre voting for ??
Clueless and infantile comment, its that kind of thinking that youre somehow superior in thought to those who actually voted to leave. Noone wants to be or surely really associates themselves with being European in this country, theyre just people who are scared of the unknown, people scared to take a risk and build, small narrow minded thinking people, who I would bet in the main are looking out for themselves rather than the population as a whole and the possibilities we can take |
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The majority of remainers where from the educated ranks were they not Mac?
I seem to recall see stats saying the number of degrees of remainers far outnumbered the thicko followers |
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Ive said it before but brexit is simply devide and rule on steroids
And just as in the 80s tradesmen and van drivers sold souls to save a few quid on their tax return, so too were brexiteers conned into voting for something promised but couldn't be delivered (thatchers tax cuts were obv. the very source of all those very rich chums who saved far more than just a few quid as a result) |
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ofc it is dusty, blame immigrants/eu then they're not blaming their puppet masters.
Boris laughing at them from afar, Farage the same yet they keep lining up to back them, madness. |
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Even at £200m per week (I've never believe what was on that bus) to The EU that's still a colossal amount, and most of it going to fund the decrepit economies of minnow member states we've not heard about not so long ago. But why though? Why do we annually contribute so much more than we get back whilst the majority get back multiples of what they contribute? It's so unjust.
And, with many new minnow members our present contribution will probably remain for quite some time yet probably more if the mooted EU army is under serious consideration for the near future. |
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Do some of you think you should get your subscriptions back from your memberships just because you might be paying more than other members with less means or disposable income?
Golf club,Military club,Scouts and guides subsidising poorer families to buy uniforms,schools subsidising students who can't afford text books etc,Scholarships to Uni's.............dating sites for benders etc? Only asking because seems a fukcing lot of ignorance all of a sudden? |
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In Boris we trust.
Boris will deliver. |
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Like him or loathe him he is the only who is actually trying to deliver the winning vote , the swamp might not like it but it's a fact.
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Told you he was guilty!!!
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Demented jawdie trusts bojo?..well his brother sister ex wife and many many more including her maj don't.
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11- nowt in the highest court in the land
They used to hang people at Tyburn for far less. |
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You could sell tickets for that.
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Free to view with Labour
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Boris is a liar. Who would have known. He should be booted out if he refuses to quit. I'm no legal expert but seems to be this is as damning as it could get for Boris.
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No war was ever won on a battlefield.
The poor innocent folk die for what they believe in. Wars are eventually won by groups of folk who have never set foot on a battlefeild. Ask Roman emperor's , Greek empires and Indian dynasties. Chuck in our own hero.... Sir Arthur So you can moan all you like. Trust me your only a number so get used to it. |
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Name me one war and there have been thousands where the conquer set foot on the battlefield?
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Napoleon could name a few?
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One going on then name more?
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There's thousands of wars to choose from....
Surely you guys who seem smart and care about politics can name a few who fought? |
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My point is we are just a number and world leaders don't really give a s0d what we think.
Until like Peterloo for example they stand together. |
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I did in a few diff depending on your definition of a war,Paddy Ashdown also did.
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Btw Diif,there are a lot more than you think and most are or were Conservative,Labour never had the guts for a fight.
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What about the roundheads chinning the cavaliers and the monarchy?
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King George II was the last British monarch to appear on a battlefield (c1740) but it was a bit of a limited show. The lat one who was a proper general was William III,winner at the Battle of the Boyne but also others against France on the continent.
Wellington was I think the only PM who was a general,but Churchill,MacMillan and Heath all certainly fought in one or other of the wars against Germany. |
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Dennis Healey.
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So did Attlee to name one Labour PM.
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Maybe not monarchs but the Royal Family have a proud record in modern times.
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You must mean Churchill Duke of Marlborough SS, cos Winston didn't do any fighting he was a scribe who got caught out in South Africa and had to be resued....then became Admiral of the Fleet in WW1 and PM in WW2
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Churchill resigned from the Cabinet after Gallipoli and served as a low-ranking officer on the western front. Quite how much fighting he saw I don't know offhand.
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Never knew that SS, if the rest of his record is anything to go by he wouldnt have seen much.
He was privileged, even his PM position wasn't 'earned' |
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*war PM that should read
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All he has to do is get the Brexit Party onside. Would be a landslide result over the commies and the hypocrites such as the Greens and Libs. They really haven't a clue of the brexit tsunami that is about to be unleashed on the 400 or so remainers in the Commons. I fully expect a bigger majority if it goes to another vote.
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