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ty foxy, a large amount on a rag then
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very large amount elise however having been a member of this forum like you for a very long time i have learnt its perhaps not wise to believe every story that is posted.
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I backed 'Millie's Kiss' in the 3.15 the night before! Easily understand how the trainer/handler mixed the two up - I mean both horses have 4 legs each for ****'s sake!
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They say it is the first time it has happened since microchips were introduced in 1999. My solution would be to check all horses that would involve prize money or bets after the race and before the weigh in announcement. It is sad but inevitable that racing gets more publicity in the general media when this happens than after the Derby. The **** up in Ireland is equally bizarre in that the Turf Club are not contesting the appeal about Stars over the Sea!
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It is vaguely surprising none of the other trainers or jockeys raised an eyebrow. Is Millie's Kiss particularly small and easily mistaken for a 2-year-old?
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What really astounds me is the BHA statement that they will look into the procedures and try to determine what steps need
to be taken to prevent it from happening again. I don't know what kind of salaries these buffoons are on but I will give them some free advice: Stand the man with the scanning device at the entrance to the saddling enclosure.Man scans,checks his list,if all in order horse allowed in. If the BHA was operating airport security they would no doubt scan people as they entered the parking lot and not on their way to the ramp! |
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I'm guessing the sleeper is from a bet on the jolly not the 'winner'
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it's times like this you wish horses could talk#mr ed to the stewards room please
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https://mobile.twitter.com/AtTheRaces/status/890601484164841472/video/1
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I can sort of see how the wrong horse could go to post, but how did the trainers and connections not see it was the wrong horse when it came back to the winners enclosure? Do you think they decided to stay stum & not say anything & hope it wasn't routinely doped tested? That seems the strange part of it all to me and where questions should be asked.
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If they didn't recognize the horse before the race, why would they be more likely to after apart from the apparent improvement in ability?
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They let bets stand on wrong race cloth race - Lisa Williamson - horse won & was placed last - no bets refunded
should have voided bets Trainer Lisa Williamson admitted on Friday she was "absolutely distraught" over the disqualification of Mighty Zip at Chelmsford the previous evening after the jockey weighed in 6lb lighter than he weighed out. Mighty Zip finished a clear winner after being sent off 5-2 favourite for a 5f handicap in which he had 9st 6lb, from which apprentice Jordan Uys was taking off 7lb. But the success was short-lived after an objection was lodged when the rider returned to the scales weighing 8st 7lb, having weighed out with 8st 13lb. |
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If they didn't recognize the horse before the race, why would they be more likely to after apart from the apparent improvement in ability?
Because connections said they were in a rush pre race - that wouldn't of been the case after the race would it? |
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everyone should have kept quiet and waited to see if they ran the other horse later,
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the horse that won the race ,, was already declared a non runner later
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thing he means run the 2yr old in the other race
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When I had horses they were scanned in the parade ring before the race to check their IDs. When did that stop?
Also I always recognised my horses even in the pre parade ring without number cloths or colours so how the hell did none of those owners notice that it wasn't their horse that had just entered the parade ring ? It's accepted that it's the trainer's responsibility but the BHA should also fine themselves as they are ultimately responsible for the integrity of racing. |
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been talking to a yarmouth tatts bookmaker at york tonight . he says he laid the "winner" six times two £2.50 each ways and four £5 win bets..he told me all tatts bookmakers had laid it well but no bets bigger than £5.
it seems some were in the know before the off but showed patience to have lots of small bets , therefore not arousing suspicion. 100 bets at just a fiver, all at 50/1 and 66/1 nets a tidy sum... |
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.. well said OUTPOST, seems the BHA are trying to shut the stable door after the horse has bolted. !!
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ADGE, with respect that is bollixx imo.
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cardenden - you have already been told that the "winner" was declared as a non runner AFTER the race it won. Why keep spouting inaccuracies.
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surely a man isnt going to risk his training licence/ reputation / livelyhood , all for the sake of a couple of £5 bets.
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not too bothered about you opinion really , glasgow . i didn't say the course books lost because they backed it back on here...now does that put them under suspicion ?
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adge, i just find your £5 bets here and there view " nets a tidy sum " totally ridiculous, ... probably wouldnt pay his diesel for a week.
ps, i am not bothered if the course books win or lose, 99.99999 % back on here anyway. |
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Just out on interest, what happens with the winning prize money?
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trainer and owners failed to spot mandarin princess's distinguishing white sock.
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prize money will go to horse/connections that finished 2nd and revised places likewise once they dq the fptp
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as for the fiver bets Philip green robs employees of 350,400 million in pension scheme in the great sheme of things found it in the petty cash in the kitchen cupboard,never under estimate the greed or excitement of getting one over someone,not that I,m saying they did,small change to some but could buy a new horse,months bills etc
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The Stewards held an enquiry following a report from the Veterinary Officer that CANDLELIGHT STORY, trained by Jennie Candlish, could not be identified from its passport and therefore the mare could not run. They interviewed the trainer’s representative and the Veterinary Officer. Having heard their evidence, the Stewards referred the matter to the Head Office of the British Horseracing Authority.
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If fairness, nobody really looks like their passport photo.
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The Adge post is certainly worth further investigation from a BHA perspective. It does seem odd that no one involved with the horse noticed it was the wrong horse before or after the race. They should be asking the bookmakers on track how the betting compares to other maiden races and outsiders at the track (and other smallish meetings). It does seem unusual that every book in tatts had laid the horse but maybe there was a bigger crowd on course than i would imagine. How many bookmakers that day?
The off course firms should also be asked obviously. Maybe this was a complete 'accident' but a full investigation is required. |
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Maybe horses look at humans and say to themselves - 'they all look exactly the same -they've all got 2 legs haven't they!'
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they look at some humans and say "they look a bit like me"
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I was surprised little was said about the Adge post until asparagus just mentioned it. As he says, it certainly needs investigating.
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since been told that as soon as "pg racing" priced up the very first bet he took on the race was £20 each way the "winner"
all the course bookmakers have full computer records which are very easy to read should the BHA or anyone else wish to see them |
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Your 7000th post could be your most important, adge.
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This really needs a full investigation. Are the BHA up to it?
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£1500 fine for C McBRIDE.
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mandarin princess 5-20 newmarket, is she worth having a tenner e/w on, might struggle to get 50/1.
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