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By:
Whistlejacket
When: 27 Jul 17 17:16
A simple and practical question to ask with regards to this fiasco (apologies if someone else has flagged it before) 

Since there appears a reluctance to void the race - as apparently this cant be done after the jockeys have "weighed in" - could the authorities please explain what they propose to put in the formbook?
By:
elise
When: 27 Jul 17 17:17
FBU goes in the formbook .... fckn b@lls up
By:
Barton Bank
When: 27 Jul 17 17:18
Surely the "winner" should be declared a non runner/disqualified and the race awarded to the runner-up?
By:
ashleigh
When: 27 Jul 17 17:20
terry seen the 2 together.Laugh
By:
handtorofe
When: 27 Jul 17 17:21
why did the stewards withdraw it from the other race ,or were they looking at the wrong horse lol
By:
the dealer
When: 27 Jul 17 17:21
all the books will pay out on the second, would be astounded if they dont but it once again shows that the BHA arent fit for purpose with how they have dealt with the situation
By:
ashleigh
When: 27 Jul 17 17:23
terry on course not payed out.Sad
By:
cj180
When: 27 Jul 17 17:24
Terry should have steamed into the ringer if he'd spotted them together
By:
irishone
When: 27 Jul 17 17:26
once again common sense takes a back seat
By:
11kv
When: 27 Jul 17 17:27
The wrong horse always wins...Cry
By:
foxy
When: 27 Jul 17 17:29
as stated by the dealer the bha once again proving they are not fit for purpose, perhaps if they spent more time been honest they would do a better job.
By:
Big Boss
When: 27 Jul 17 17:32
the rules are prehistoric, from a non technological age, just like the BHA !
By:
Arleystation
When: 27 Jul 17 17:35
all the books will pay out on the second, would be astounded if they dont

Stan J have treated as void.
By:
Big Boss
When: 27 Jul 17 17:36
Sid James don't take any bets so doesn't matter if they void or not
By:
Davy Jones
When: 27 Jul 17 17:39
Can SJ really not pay out on the first past the post?
By:
Arleystation
When: 27 Jul 17 17:39
they took a £100 treble with Fyre Cay as the 1st leg
By:
blackbarn
When: 27 Jul 17 17:42
To Whistlejacket and others, the BHA decision not to void has less to do with "weighed in" and more to do with their rules. Put simply they can only void a race under very specific circumstances. See below...

PART 5 - THE RESULT - (B)60 to (B)66
66. Circumstances in which a race is void

66.1 A race shall be void where a yellow stop race flag is waved, as described in Rule 48.
66.2 A race may be declared void if no qualified horse covers the course in accordance with these Rules.
66.3 A race is liable to be declared void if
66.3.1 all the horses in the race ran at the wrong weights;
66.3.2 all the horses ran over the wrong course;
66.3.3 all the horses started from the wrong start, unless the Stewards have exercised their powers under Rule 10.1;
66.3.4 no horses returned to the start after the recall flag was raised (see Rule 39);
66.3.5 the Starter declared a false start but the recall flag was not raised, unless the horses pull up as described in Rule 40.2;
66.3.6 no horse finished;
66.3.7 the Judge or an authorised substitute was not in the Judge's Box, as required by Rule 60.2.1, unless the Stewards are able to determine the result as described in Rule 60.2.2;
66.3.8 the circumstances described in Rule 10.4 occur.

This race has some similarity to others.  Young Master in the Badger is a good one.  Horse not qualifed by race record (not age) but first past the post disqualified with the race awarded to the second as the winner. Race not voided.
By:
clayfield1
When: 27 Jul 17 17:43
As all ready said if the winner had been gambled form 50/1 into say 3/1 the bookies wouldn't have paid out.
By:
Davy Jones
When: 27 Jul 17 17:50
How much was traded on the race on the exchange?
By:
ima_mazed66
When: 27 Jul 17 17:51
Apparently Donald Trump has just Tweeted in defence of the trainer saying.....

"You know, I love horses and over the years have had plenty of horses work for me but I feel for the guy and can see how this happened, because if you ask me, they all look the same."
By:
Northbouy
When: 27 Jul 17 17:53
Nillies Kiss should now be banned from all racetracks for invading the race course during the 1st at Yarmouth.
By:
cardenden
When: 27 Jul 17 18:00
is there a link anywhere of the trainer being interveiwed  ,, i saw it ,, he was going on about the winner being only a 2 grand horse ,big grin on his face ,, NOT NOW
By:
shoodacoodadidnt
When: 27 Jul 17 18:07
What are betfair doing about this? I bet the 3rd to be in first two.... surely I should either be paid out or have my stakes refunded. Can't believe this can be allowed to go with no recourse..... ????
By:
Wesdag
When: 27 Jul 17 18:15
Betfair Help‏Verified account @BetfairCS 3m3 minutes ago

We have now fully settled the 13:40 at Yarmouth on the Exchange following the statement from the BHA. 1/2


Betfair Help‏Verified account @BetfairCS 3m3 minutes ago

This has now been settled on the official result at the time of the 'weigh-in' announcement (or equivalent) as per our Exchange rules. 2/2
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By:
asparagus
When: 27 Jul 17 18:19
I think there will have to be group action on this one.
By:
Davy Jones
When: 27 Jul 17 18:21
the race was settled hours ago - they havent announced a reaction yet to the bha statement
By:
ima_mazed66
When: 27 Jul 17 18:32
What would the BHA do if a previous winner inadvertently ran in a maiden race and won and had weighed in?
By:
blackbarn
When: 27 Jul 17 18:36
Ima - See my post at 17.42.   Same as today wwill be and same as Young Master.  Disqualify the winner and promote the second. Weighed in has nothing to do with it.
By:
shoodacoodadidnt
When: 27 Jul 17 18:36
Must be one of the most obvious sutuations for voiding all bets there has ever been. That was my biggest bet of the day - the 2nd favourite to be in 1st two - it was a head away too just to rub salt in.

Surely they can't allow this to stand.
By:
elise
When: 27 Jul 17 18:38
unfortunately for you they most likely will, regardless of what later happens at portman sq
By:
Barton Bank
When: 27 Jul 17 18:40
Beyond ridiculous that the winner isn't automatically disqualifed ahead of any enquiry!
By:
shoodacoodadidnt
When: 27 Jul 17 18:40
Betfair could refund losing bets as a gesture of goodwill. any hope??
By:
the.mad.dog.man
When: 27 Jul 17 18:43
not a chance
By:
Fashion Fever
When: 27 Jul 17 18:43
result stands for betting purposes

owners/trainers of beaten runners have 14 days to object to the winner
By:
blackbarn
When: 27 Jul 17 18:43
Absolutely agree Barton.  If it had been found to have carried the wrong weight instead of being born in the wrong year, it would have been disqualified straight awayCrazy.
By:
shoodacoodadidnt
When: 27 Jul 17 18:47
Mad game ....
By:
shoodacoodadidnt
When: 27 Jul 17 18:48
There's a horse loose at Doncaster flying down the track screaming "I'm not racing till I've seen ALL their passports!!" :p
By:
Jack Bauer '24'
When: 27 Jul 17 18:48
Why do people still talk about Portman Square? The BHA are based in High Holborn.
By:
use2begudear
When: 27 Jul 17 18:50
Thought they had moved to Cloudcukoo land ?
By:
mrcombustible
When: 27 Jul 17 18:53
And Shaftesbury Avenue in between.
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