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@ericster
Look at your password of course, but really think about enabling 2FA. |
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2FA?
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Two factor authentication.
Often described as "something you know, and something you possess" You install Google Authenticator (free) on your phone and it gives you a 6-digit code you input after you've done your username and password. Only way someone can hack your account then is to steal your phone *and* unlock it, as well as knowing/guessing username and password. |
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Thanks everyone for the empathy and at least hopefully shifted some into checking account usage etc.
Good talking point for the day and hopefully Betfair sort out. Would have thought the compelling evidence that it is fraudulent, is the IP address shift during the time period and the fact Sportsbook don't accept £3k bets at anytime as far as i know and definately not from my account and from a market that would only attract pennies from the UK Unless someone inside facilitated the bet for some reason like someone else has said, but no reasoning behind any of it because they would not have been able to draw anything etc in time before i had noticed the problem. If it had been an exchange bet i could see the logic and hard to prove who was the culprit(s). I won't hold me breath but just hope it ends rightfully. Will update if and when BF get back to me |
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similar happened to me a good few years ago...
most of the money was recovered (if memory serves I lost about £350 which was about 10% of the bank)they hacked my account the previous day and made a profit which they then deliberately lost on a market with little liquidity so there partner could gain most of the monies,the reason i lost some of the money was that part of the bet was taken by another customer in good faith. this was before 2 step authentication was available... |
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Sorry to appear dim but technology not my thing; with regard to the 2 step authenticator thing, do you have to set it up every time you log in or is just a one-off? Any help much appreciated.
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setup once
but need to add 6 digit number extra eachtime that changes every min |
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thanks dustybin
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@dustybin
Not quite true - you can configure 2FA on here so it only asks for the 6 digit code if you try to access from a new device - but it's safest to set it so it always asks for it. |
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Techy clueless here but spoke to someone about it. As has already been pointed out....
Login details saved on computer and logs in automatically. Not a good thing apparently also this bloke doesn't have any gambling sites on his i phone. |
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Perhaps it's a hackmail attempt.....someone showing BF they can access accounts and demanding money?
There is no other reason for placing such a stupid bet on SB except ultimately BF don't lose the funds - just in another P&L. |
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That would at least make sense, Trusty.
Actually the hack would go further than just demonstrating access to customer accounts. It would also show access to the PaddyPowerBetfair Sportsbook. Remember, the real mystery here is how a Sportsbook bet of £3000 ever got laid. Is it plausible that someone has found a way to hack the PaddyPowerBetfair trading software and override its stake-limiting and account-closure mechanisms? |
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The bottom line is Betfair should sort it out. They have the IT experts to do it.
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This incident would suggest they don't.
Let us hope that the IT dept wasn't one of the areas Paddy Power eyed up for profits via cost-cutting when they bought Betfair. |
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if no-one else is using computer, how is it auto log in is security risk?
or isn't it? anyone thanks |
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the real mystery here is how a Sportsbook bet of £3000 ever got laid.
if the op is being candid then that sure is a mystery..£3000 @4/5 on an american football game? impos |
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@zipperdidoda
I think having your browser remember login details for websites isn't a huge security risk if only you use that computer (or at least that account on that computer) and you don't share the username/password for that account. I still never do it for anything involving money. |
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zipperdidoda It is a risk if you ever leave your computer unattended. In any case as has been mentioned several times you should use 2 factor authentication and auto log doesn't work if you use that.
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It has prob already been said but I'd def warn people about logging in to betting accounts (anything financial/identity related) on a public wifi system in cafe's, shooping centres,pubs etc - it really is very very easy to 'record' people's activity and get details. O.P did you place bets (or just log into betfair) on any such wifi sytems recently, cafe,pub etc? They prob got the details, realised they couldn't withdraw any money so thought they'd lose you yours (or poss win and decide what to try and do with it then) by the sounds of it.
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@spyker
"it really is very very easy to 'record' people's activity and get details" It shouldn't be if the site you're logging into is https rather than http - the session should be end-to-end encrypted. |
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Though the situation shouldn't arise - on mobile you're best using PIN login (because the use of PIN is tied to a particular device, even if someone somehow intercepted or shoulder-surfed - which is a bigger risk than imaginary insecure wifi in the crowded places were public wifi is used - your PIN, they could only use it to login using your phone)
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thanks for replys
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The average age of a hacker is 17! They may not be trying to steal your money just have a bit of "fun"
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Maybe longbridge but a quick google gives any number of articles and most are not ware at all of the issues - this article https://heimdalsecurity.com/blog/11-security-steps-public-wi-fi-networks/ gives some good tips. I rarely need public wifi and would have to be very 'desperate' to do anything financial over them - that's not to say i don't use the internet in public just not public networks!
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If some of you lot are not using 2 Step Authentication....You Should Be...Do It Now!...Do It Today!
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Absolutely 100% candid Willie.
Not had a great week and lost what i had made in the last 2 weeks.I, like everyone else, is as sick as a parrot when losing, whether previous winnings or not and only have myself to blame(not a jockey,trainer etc as i made the decision to back a horse based on my own opinions. But a bit different if some **** else loses the money for me and in a tin pot football game as well. I have had 5 football bets in the last 3 months all involving Leicester Man City and ROI and all on the exchange. For 2 reasons basically 1 better odds and 2 sportsbook would not have taken the amounts going on past attempts. Not been on any outside wifi as far as i know as use mobile data if i do have a bet when out and use fingerprint entry if that makes any difference. No one else uses computer or has access and obviously trawled through it yesterday to see if anything untoward. Flicked an email off to BF this morning asking for an update but nish as yet. Anyone want to lay Raheen Prince for a decent amount lol |
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Good point, Baron. For many of those little hacking freaks, the enjoyment comes from the "challenge" of breaching security.
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without trying to make light of it chalkie as had simialr but not that amount, would sportsbook have honoured had it won or said as account hacked bet voided? some hackers i assume get there thrill in just hacking cus they can
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No probs Craig no good being too bitter just causes more stress lol
Probably wouldn't have paid out giving some bullshit reason. PP in a post today refusing to pay out after the fact |
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yes saw that one too, funny his barca bet £3000+ took and £7000 not as limit on his account £4000 funny that, if barca had won would it of been £3000 so didnt have to pay out both?
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they should still take £4000 of the £7000 , and cancel the remaining £3000 imo
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Pablo - maybe if all to be correct, BUT they should still have informed the punter before the event.
Be interested to see how this thread ends up. |
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they should still take £4000 of the £7000 , and cancel the remaining £3000 imo
Wasn't this a duplicate account that the punter created? He's limited to peanuts on his first account so thought he'd open another to double dip? Or have I got the wrong story? |
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a few years ago I ago logged into plentyoffish on a bus noticed a guy sat behind diagonally taking particular interest logging in, next day my profile had been changed to gay and all messages been sent out from my account and was receiving all these messages from gay guys
just glad I didn't log into betfair |
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rob , if that's the case then fair enough. but I thought it says that his limit is £4000
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I always assumed you were gay Mark!
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Fashion Fever, and your sphincters never recovered eh
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I know its already been said many times but everybody should use 2FA - It might seem like it's going to be a pain in the arris but it isn't. As mentioned previously, you can set it up so that it only asks you when you sign in on a different device (unless you use Gruss or other software which requires it every time - I use Gruss and am used to doing it now).
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Fashion Fever 21 Apr 17 15:19
a few years ago I ago logged into Grindr on a bus noticed a guy sat behind diagonally taking particular interest logging in, next day my profile had been changed to gay and all messages been sent out from my account and was receiving all these messages from gay guys just glad I didn't log into betfair |
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Fashion Fever.
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