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The fact that really all racing bodies & integrity depts really want this buried out at sea with no trace ,just goes to shows what a dire state racing has degenerated to -
It has no where to go from here if crap like this goes on with nothing being resolved - very well managed damage limitation exercise conducted by all you have to say- in doing this though , it also gives licence for further skanks to go on,& therefore shows honesty & integrity count for nothing in this sport. |
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Comment from stable below - peach - we got the wrong horse.... DOH!!
Williamson, who trains a string of 30 in Wrexham, said: "I wasn't there and have no idea how it happened. I'm absolutely distraught. No-one seems to know what happened. Somehow somewhere along the way the weight cloth has been put on the wrong horse. It's gut-wrenching when you're a small yard." |
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I'm having trouble working out a way to deal with this fairly.
Current approach - clearly those backing the first horse or laying the second in the closing yards of the race have been hard done by. "Void the market" - what about all the people with bets on the third down to last horse? Their winnings/losses would have been identical with the lightweight horse out of the race, why should they not keep those? |
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not really an issue of "fairness" imo. It is just such an obvious moral hazard. Can you think of an easier way for an insider to get £10,000s matched? The opportunity just shouldn't be there.
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Its just on here there is a problem ,books dont pay out on the disqualified horse or at max odds the second ,crazy situation
on here it should be voided imo ,seems unbelievable in this day and age that noone is held accountable and layers have to stand on at max odds agree about the lack of integrity ,scales should be outside ringside/trackside as well ,public should see the process and should not be a long walk to weighing room either ,why there is not live pictures from the scales as well is strange . |
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The lack of discretion in these cases is always something to behold - there are solutions here that noone wants to enforce because it happens infrequently.
A saddle cloth that has lead slates put into it is just a little old fashioned.. Surely a weighted cloth that cannot lose the weights could and should be developed - of course it would cost money... |
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Either way time is not kind to people , jockeys ,stables ,trainers and sports in general where this happens , people won't forget or forgive Hansie Cronje for gambling matches he threw in S.African cricket , or Lance Armstrong for cheating - & whilst no one can say this was anything other than human error - no one will forget the wrong race cloth race , where the winner was disqualified - & the second in running , trading at 1000/1 in running was given first - later on
such amateurish antics & lack of professionalism has done the sport immense harm .....powers that be are ostriches with heads in sand. |
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thay should treat it as a n/r
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jackboo that wouldn't solve the in running potential skullduggery.
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@jackboo - that solves the issue for those who backed the first horse at 1.01 for lumps as it was about to cross the line.
What it doesn't solve is those who laid the second horse at 1000 at the same time - they're now paying out as that horse is the winner. The fairest I've been able to come up with is that bets are voided except where the outcome is unaffected. So in the Win, bets on the first and second horses home are voided, all the rest stand, in Place bets on the second and third and fifth and below stand, bets on the first and fourth are voided. Nowhere near perfect but I think it removes most of the manifest unfairness without penalising too many innocents too hard. |