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Chelmsford 6.15 - Winnr may have weighed in light
Chelmsford 6.15 - Winnr may have weighed in light
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First Past The Post does not apply on the following markets, events and circumstances: Horses that are disqualified because they failed to ‘weigh in’ correctly. Horses that are disqualified because they have taken the ‘wrong course’. Where there is an official correction to the result by the judge or SIS prior to the "weigh in" and any races which are declared void before the "weigh in" for which Rules of Racing will apply. Ante Post bets Races which are declared void. Bets which rely on Tote Dividends i.e. Jackpots, Placepots etc which are settled Rules of Racing. This includes all pari-mutuel betting |
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Fookin get in only just found out about Disq layed it in running!!!
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talk about rubbing it in
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If not carrying right weight bets should be voided & scratched - if horse was disqualified for this reason , then it was never qualified to win anyhow & so how can you retain stake money on that principle -placing 10th is worst outcome for punters & racing
Next week see a horse an all weather disqualified for taking wrong course , won't pay out then either. Wonder why they can't clean up racing or make a proper example of trainers & jockeys. |
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This week just gets better.
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It just leaves it open to abuse, whaddyaknow the fav is disqualified, high fives all round for the bookies.
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Disgusting.thank u very much to the person or persons who have cost me a packet.waiting on this horse for a treble,bookmaker not paying out,ban the people from racing.imagine this happening at Cheltenham?something would have been done to protect the punter to save embarrassment imo,but because its only a tin pot meeting nothing will get done.jockey.trainer.stable staff hang your head in shame.thanks again.
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its happened for hundred year...next
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Some people's livelihoods depend on there betting.i know I will be closing my bookmaker account with this particular firm.
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where is the bookmaker at fault?
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if the clerk of the scales at Cheltenham
lodged an objection,the same result would occur,horse DSQ. |
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U win.but then u don't win.same old story.bookmaker wins every time.terms and conditions shud be rewritten imo
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Think of poor trainers now - people already think they're a bunch of Arthur Daley's - cycling had one Lance Armstrong in it & the **** hit the fan then big style (quite rightly so) - this crap is a daily occurrence in horse racing , running wide , not trying , dropping hands, horses trading 1000/1 in running then winning - must be 67 Lance Armstrongs out there at least riding horses not bikes , of course not helped when trainers can't lie straight in bed either. Is racing the only sport which is now more profitable to lay favourites than back them ? - Diff here , is they would not dare let it happen at Cheltenham - repercussions too big. Lost faith in ability of Jockey club to even police this sport. Barney Curley had the right idea all along. Love to know his views on state of this crap.
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feel sorry for you but not the bookmakers fault the horse carried 6lb less and got disq.
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So iff ruby had won on a hotspot.and bookmakers had paid out.and the horse had been disqualified.how many of those punters wud have gone back to the pitch and returned there winnings?.iff the horse had been disqualified because of a weight cloth error u can't tell me there wud have been punters going ballistic,
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the horse might not have won carrying the right weight, your first point doesnt make any sense to me, on your second point off course they wouldnt be happy as you clearly are but it still doesnt make it the books fault or that they should pay
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What I am saying is bookmakers have a reponsibilty it's customers.this is really bad.the punter wasn't to know.and the bookmaker should realise this.and change there terms and conditions.
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so the next one doesnt put the weight cloth on and its for 14lbs but they should still pay?
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like i said feel really sorry for you but cant agree with that, hope your luck changes tomorrow
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no - totally agree , deff not bookies fault - but its heads or tales ,either someone can't perform , or trusted to perform in the professional capacity they have been employed to do so in , (not good where large sums of money are involved or a degree of trust) - or the skankers have won - only two choices I'll offer you
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human error, probably he/she has saddled 100's and never done it, probably years before it happens again but more than likely it will. you would think in this day an age there would be a process to make sure it shouldnt happen, i agree with that
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Bookmaker getting account closed tomorrow.plenty of other firms who did pay out on the horse.byebye.
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this has happened before,people been paid out.
Books withdrew money hours after. |
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The only BS is that layers got paid. If the horse died before the race the bets would've been voided.
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should be big scales next to racecourse and horse and jockey get weighed just before and after race..would solve this problem.
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I'm angry because don't think fine was big enough - you could easily pull a lay skank to cover a fine - and still make more than if you had won race anyway
its not a deterrent even , as is giving a jockey a 2 week ban for not trying - you must remember that if you insider deal , rig markets in the city - manipulate markets you do a long stretch of porridge (and not for huge sums either -city trader got 3 years for 200k share skank)- this is the danger of horse racing , its not trusted. I see a collapse in liquidity in the horse betting industry - the fact that they have to put rock concerts on after racing shows they can't get the foot fall to tracks now - people will desert this sport and go more to football , tennis etc - where you will see an upturn in skanks there , as their liquidity pile gets bigger |
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Def a huge opportunity for abuse here. The horse was fav anyway, then no weight gives it a huge advantage. If you were going to pull a scam, this is exactly how you would do it. Huge amounts could be laid on it and backed on the second. I hope that bf integrity department are investigating if anyone other than regular in running players were in action on the first and second past the post. |
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The electronic pickpockets take a new turn in skanking - still don't understand if you are carrying something in your arms like saddle , like weights , when weighing out , exactly how you then forget to put on horses back , when it's in your own hands. No integrity dept anywhere will flag anything up - don't want to - all will die a quiet natural death. Wonder what second horse was in running to win - when it was certain to come second before this happened , told Achill Road Boy traded 1000/1 in running at 5.40 pm Hexham thurs 16th , before it won.
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Think they should change the rules to void in running bets if the winner is dq'd for wrong weight. It doesn't happen often so wouldn't be a big inconvenience for players, but would avoid a potentially huge scam.
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Could be bad for some stables this - when people start to loose trust in trainers . Owners will pull horses from any stable & send to other trainers for whatever reason or leave the sport. - Fully accept some prize money won't cover costs for this kind of racing (which probably drives the industry further towards strange results/happenings), even loosing punters feel for the sport , its just that they don't like to loose like this , its bad faith kind of thing.
Once people feel things are happening behind their backs they can't control - punters or owners , it get a bit twitchy - invariably the stables & sport will loose more than it gained when these things happen , however good the skank paid out, if there was one even. |
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I have thanked the trainer on twitter for costing me 200 gbp as id laid the 2nd
@lw stables |
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They need to look into all bets here - backing / laid bets - back Culloden to win for £100 - you would have got £100k ,liquidity permitting - less commission
you could do equiv of a bank robbery every day on your phone & not even get out of bed !!!!! |
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integrity dept?...can't even get lv to work
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For betting purposes, such races should be voided.
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Serious momentum gathering - big ground swell happening ,as big as I can remember
legal writs may fall like autumn leaves yet !!!!! |
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if the horse couldn't possibly win before race then yes should be voided
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Bad bad bad day for racing - feeling sorry for all parties & lost nearly £1000 , nearly as much as fine was - feeling sorry for trainer & jockey even
really bad for them , they won't come out of this smelling of roses. |
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should always be void - you shouldn't take bets on a horse that can't win . That's like fraud or something
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jockey and trainer should get banned from the sport for life.
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If not carrying right weight bets should be voided & scratched - if horse was disqualified for this reason , then it was never qualified to win anyhow & so how can you retain stake money on that principle -
Actually a Fair Point tbh but how would they settle The race ? Plus there would also be a Difference if Weight was Lost During the Race. |