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PRICEWISE 59 losers in a row
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@the bloob -- Sir Tom does not use the points system because no-one would be able to get 10 points on.
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28 straight losers.
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last win 8/8/15,the character, £5 ew 15.0,return £12.50p
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deadbrain59 - That is known as desperation. Highlighting a 1/4 "winner"
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Seagull could stop a Eurostar at the moment!!
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2nd again
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You freaks are missing the point in stating that he has to select in certain races..
He can cherrypick the top price which is unavailable anyhow.. As regards the alleged £100k he is on (and I have stated repeatedly that Steve Palmer is on the same and more) there are many people that could produce a profit given his circumstances and all available information.. Indeed I would shoot myself if I had a losing run of more that 10 losers given the advantages that he has... Just a Thought...  |
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Indeed I would shoot myself if I had a losing run of more that 10 losers given the advantages that he has...
You provide the tips, I'll provide the gun..............  |
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I have my own gun fella..
Just in case.. |
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Pricewise races aren't a tough job not sure why people think it is ... you have got stats printed ... trainers comments... loads of info/insights... that you don't get in the day to day racing - that makes Saturday racing (or big days) special... all he has to do is fit pieces of the jigsaw... if you go 59 losers and counting... need to reflect on yourself as a tipster and maybe time for a break ... not take everyone off a cliff with you...
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will he lose his knighthood
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59 losers on the bounce. my odds 500/1 you could not do that throwing a dart at the racing post pinned up on the wall ......
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Must be influencing decision making and sure will be pressure from you know who. By the way has the RP shrunk again? No bigger than my Beano.
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homefortea 30 Aug 15 20:02
You freaks are missing the point in stating that he has to select in certain races.. As regards the alleged £100k he is on (and I have stated repeatedly that Steve Palmer is on the same and more) there are many people that could produce a profit given his circumstances and all available information.. You're the freak, if you think Seagull and Palmer are on £100k salaries. Utter nonsense. |
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he's like a 'king stuck record with that £100K rubbish.
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send in the clowns
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more golden nuggets from monsieur pullien in sat post,
just because city are 5 points[ now 8] in front of chelsea doesnt mean they are a better team,all you,ve got to ask yourself is over the 35 games that are left can chelsea take 6 more points than city,i dont think so and the current title odds are about right,thanks for that kev he was going on to say he didnt think c helsea could because city were the better team but ran out of space, |
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palmer could be on over 50k but to be only living in very mediocre approx 200k house in weymouth with the decor and furniture it has and not be able to afford a 5k bank he'd have to be pretty much blowing all his money in corals every month and be up to his eye balls in loans, credit cards etc.
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59 losers is just SH&T
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User McCoy Carp • August 29, 2015 7:12 PM BST
A run like this is inevitable bearing in mind the price of the horses he selects but it doesn't make it any easier to stomach. He or The Racing Post should offer some insight and explaination as to why these losing runs happen as how you deal with them is THE most important thing in becoming a successful punter. Goodwood use to be my favourite place to bet at, then this year I went through 1 winner out of 80 selections and they wern't all big priced runners like Segal tips. I lost £7500 there including £3500 at the main meeting. I would never have thought a run like that was possible. One saving grace with me now is I don't chase, but it's taken me a long time to become disciplined in that way. I am constantly searching the net for help with these losing runs and at the moment have started reading "The Drunkards Walk" which Hugh taylor recommended - but it's quite hard work. It's the despair you feel, lack of info and people to talk to when you hit these runs. Don't assume he's near to tipping a winner. Look at that losing run Mark Jonhston went through over the winter, 100+ runners and no winner. One of the most incredible things to have ever happened in racing yet more or less ignored by the press. But then look at the summer he has had and how things have changed! |
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this business about him having to tip in certain races is a red herring...he's ALWAYS had to tip in certain races and was fine for the last decade...
the question now is whether his current form is merely a statistical blip to be expected at some point during 10+ yrs of tipping long-priced runners or whether he's lost his mojo for good  |
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it has happened to successful tipsters before, Mel Collier and Henry Ricks were successful over a long period of time and then lost the plot
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just for the record m jonhston,has only had 1 group winner all season.
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Ilikewavingatbuses
Whatever method you use to bet on horses, a long losing run is inevitable. But as long as you are using level stakes to bet, and you are using the same disciplined criteria to choose your selections ( and have years worth of records to show these criteria work ), then winners will invariably arrive. The secret is to have a sufficiently large enough Racing Bank to accommodate the losing runs, without it hurting ( and thereby reducing your confidence, and creating ' panic ' betting ). Stick to what has worked in the past, don't deviate, don't chase, don't be tempted to do ' silly / fun ' bets. |
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ryan moore shows big profits,£30,000+ races,although he wont ride again this season,as does w mullins and p nicolls.
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level stake is the ONLY way to win long term imo
just not true |
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Yep
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To wavingatbuses
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Duncan
It's the true test( in the long run ) of any betting methodology you may use. |
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in competition thread div 3,reged would be making comments about toms picks
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iyo, Facts...it would be a much less profitable way of going about it for me
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Non level stakes can be more profitable but they're usually far more fragile to your avg win odds/strike rate not panning out as expected.
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duncan
Not just my opinion. Widely acknowledged by professional punters both here and in the States. |
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I've had bigger wins via non level stakes bets, but they're not as sustainable long term, as level stakes
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if using a non level stakes , e.g. a % bank approach, it can be interesting to randomise the sequence of bets and see how the bottom line changes each time you randomise the sequence
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just a little question,what happens if it turns out your winning runs were the blip and losing runs the norm, how long do you carry on betting waiting for a non excistent turn in your fortunes,
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I guess its not really about Tom... its about the RP - the quality of info they get being "In the know"...
What I know from betting is a small snippet of info is crucial and can make a massive difference to your P&L - I have noticed RP getting lazier with its reporting for me not thorough enough as it was few years back... think they troll forums for insights rather than talking to stables building links with the racing fraternity... and only represent the racing insight from a perspective of over indulgent reporting on racing egos. As for Tom he needs to go for a start - I always felt you cant tip if your paymaster is a bookie... he lost his credibility as far as I'm concerned when he joined Ladbrokes... people who back his selections are just adding dividends to Laddies! |
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been betting 30 yrs...that's long term enough for me...doesnt make sense to me to have the same stake on one you think is 10% bigger odds than it should be as one you think is 50% bigger odds than it should be
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and vica versa of course what happens if you started off on a losing run and give up ,when in fact a little paitence would have landed you on a winning formulea,
,wheres it proven that winning systems start off with a winning run,if segal or taylor had started off with one of these long losing runs presumably we,d have nevr heard about their good winning runs |