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Speculative Bid ???
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xmoneyx 25 Jul 15 19:11
bet365 not refunding They have me ! |
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nice
prob because of others bookies stance |
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Betfair sportsbook ---> Non runner
Betfair exchange --> Runner So... LOL |
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Its very clear .... the horse was a NR .... and a Runner that should clear things up .
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Except it's not funny is it. What's their reasoning for this discrepancy ?
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Zippa the voice of reason
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Facts Only they know us mugs have no idea
hope you did not pay out twice Come Racing its a rip off |
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Betfair exchange awful cm service not voiding trades on Speculative Bid
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Under the BHA rules of racing the horse was declared a non runner but for betting purposes the horse was declared a runner.
What a complete joke. I never had a bet in the race but in all my years of horse racing this is the worst incident regarding gambling I have ever come across. Big repercussions for Ascot management personnel to follow and rightly so. No excuses. |
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11kv its years since ive been racing in England why the travel , the exes , poor value halseto get a good bet on ... the weather
sit at home now glass or 2 of JD ... play on here better prices ..back or lay ... 4.00 ITS over most days .. then drinks in the summer house ... I got a good life outside of Betfair |
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Goldstein.... betfair are not bookies they took the only course open to them it was a runner
think about this their market was a million plus on course books had nothing like that |
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ZIPPER:
I go so that I can see the horses up close and note them for the future and for the atmosphere. I prefer to see it live and a can watch replays later. it is still a good day out. |
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this was a bit of a fiasco. Haven't seen anything like it from a betting view in over 25 years. Surely the post must have something to say about it?. I seem to have received my lay money from betfair on Speculative Bid and also had money refunded by bookies as a non runner. All seems a bit confusing. Maybe J Spencer needs to be more awake at the start. clearly he loves hold up tactics and i wonder whether he is on the ball sometimes at the start/early part of the race. I mentioned before the race my only concern was the jockey. Lot of money for the horse and all.
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is it correct that all bookmakers returned stakes on speculative bid?
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betfair didn't
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high street.
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adge ok your a course bookie , but read my post 26 july..... 13.02 if the result cost you millions what would you do .
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adged when betfair put the markets up over night say 2.30 Ascot 8 runners they pay 3 places post time 2 come out its still 3 to place none of the books do that
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adged I think you course bookies would have a very good case to take the stewards and BHB to the high court to recover your loses .... it was a fiasco you would have a good case
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I'm pleased to say I was at York on Saturday , zipper.
as regards my friends at ascot the afternoon became very ugly as the bookmakers knew the rules and the racecourse and announcers clearly didn't which made the whole episode one not to part of. one bookmaker was assaulted [ punched in the face ] and was only rescued by other punters as all security had gone into hiding. this whole nasty situation is being investigated at various sources. a number of books are boycotting the shergar cup meeting [ I wish all of them would ] as regards your each way situation..bookmakers are not allowed to change to 1/8th odds each way to pay 3 places |
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The excuse for the 2 different interpretations was that he was a non runner under BHA rules but a runner under Tattersalls rules that govern betting. Strange but true.
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nasty situation for on-course bookies
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Can someone here explain how Betfair on the exchange is not following the stewards decision that it was a non runner? I don't understand. I didn't back it for much but that's not the point, it was deemed a non-runner
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its was a non runner on sportsbook
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weigh-in course declared it a runner,i think
im totally confused now |
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Horseracing
13.1General All individual race markets will be determined according to the official result at the time of the 'weigh-in' announcement (or equivalent). Subsequent disqualifications, appeals or amendments to the result will be disregarded. bradley - horse was a runner at the time of weigh-in, so Betfair simply followed its own rules. Stewards then declared it a non-runner, but this was after the weigh-in, so Betfair wasn't obliged to do anything as it acted within its own rules. Decision was then changed AGAIN to reinstate it as a runner, which was the correct decision (imvho). So official ruling is that the horse was a runner and, sadly, you've done your money. |
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Just to add, please everyone check your returns at the books. I've just had to badger a decent sized book to settle the e/w bets on the race correctly, as the rule 4 was still not refunded. Suspect the book in question will refund those who ask and not bother with those who don't/forget.
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rob, got all that, according to the post hills and laddies refunded stakes o speculative bid, did koral and fred?
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Can't tell you, I'm afraid. Can't bet with either. Hills did settle each way winners correctly in the end without prompting, fwiw.
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adge first thank you for your reply I could not agree more sorry about your pals re hassle but you have been there do that ..so have I years ago ... the trouble is the racecourse don't provide the security on Saturdays drunken mob .. its all about selling booze and rock concerts after racing they don't give a toss about you or public safety
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What did the Tote do, mate tells me he got his money back, and the dividends look light on the Winner, did they take SB stake money out of the pools? If so how do the customers know that they are on a non-runner?
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the tote is owned by BET FRED enough said
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bets on the tote went on Lincoln, the joint 2nd fav with the lowest racecard number.
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