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Speculative Bid ???
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Phuk me. No wonder British Racing is a laughing stock. Run by total amateurs. Pathetic.
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fail to see on what basis it has been called a non-runner?
Be that as it may, it has. So fav backers on the exchange can feel rightly aggrieved. It's saying something when Betfair Sportsbook refunds stakes, but its exchange arm acts like nothing happened. |
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Annoucement on course @ Ascot to clarify....
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The horse should be classed a runner.Why should backers of the winner be penalised 20p in the pound ?
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THE WEIGHED IN SIGNAL WAS ISSUED BEFORE THE STEWARDS ENQUIRY
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can someone just clarify, was the weighed in called before they announced the stewards / non runner?
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nevermind
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HowTheMightyFall 25 Jul 15 16:23
horse went into the stalls, stalls opened, horse left the stalls. fail to see on what basis it has been called a non-runner? Er....because jockey wasn't sitting on the horse, handler in stalls trying to get horses head off the side of the stall. Spencer shouting not ready at starter. Starter at fault . Horse wasn't ready to run. Therefore punters obtain a refund on their bets, because they couldn't win. |
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It would have to happen on a hot favourite in a big betting race ridden by Spencer. I bet if the exact same thing had happened at Windsor on a Monday night there would even have been an enquiry.
Should have just left the result as it was but they tried to pander to the CH4 bleeding hearts contingent and have made everything worse. |
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a bit of a shambles is this, feel sorry for punters and for the layers.
racing authorities really are not up to the job. stewards enquiry should have been called immediately after the winning horse crossed the line. |
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^'never' been ann enquiry.
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well then, facts, on that basis, they should declare all horses a non-runner that fail to have the blind fold removed in time when the gates open.........
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Facts - stop this nonsense please. If a horse is facing the wrong way at the start of a NH race and doesn't run you know as well as anyone it is NOT a non runner.
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aberdonia, agree, if they intended to implement a nr call there should have been an immediate stewards and no weigh in announcement, shambles really
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I can never remember a horse going in the stalls and not running being declared a non runner. Why they even had an enquiry is the question to ask?
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Blind fold removal Is the jockeys responsibility
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so is making sure you're sitting on the 'orses back!
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Should read 'being a declared a runner'.
Too much wine.  |
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Aviboyd. This is a different case. Why argue with me ? It's not my nonsense ! The officials have declared it a non runner. End of !
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Hostage mighty
Not if handler is in the stalls Ffs ! What is the matter with you people ? |
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Facts - FFS, announced a non runner AFTER the 'weigh in'.
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The interesting thing is that Betfair have overturned the non runner decision for Exchange punters...that's a pretty dangerous precedent in itself.
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the enquiry was in to what happened at the start.not into if the horse was a non runner.
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wrong wrong wrong !!! i was on heavens guest .. now out of pocket , the horse was under starters orders .. so there for how can you count it as a non runner .. 1st for me never heard anything like it .
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its a runner now. jeez oh
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Aberdonia has hit the nail on the head. Someone wanted to be seen to make a goodwill gesture and put racing in a good light. Unfortunately, by not announcing an enquiry immediately it's come back to haunt them and is now an absolute mess. For what it's worth, I backed Speculative Bid and having not come out of the stalls I fully expected it to be classed as a runner. With hindsight, I think that the authorities wish they'd done the same.
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My ante post best lost on Speculative Bid unless NRNB as been advised by Bet365. Are other bookies doing the same?
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Aviboyd.
I guess that's because they had to hear/see all evidence. I don't know why the weighed in was called before the judgement was announced. |
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Listonfp
Shouldn't lose Antepost. Rules for AP stop on morning of the race so I believe . |
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Facts - it's an almighty mess, the real loser at the end of this will be the sport itself - as is usually the case when a c0ck up has been made by the clueless numpties who administer the sport. Central raceday stewarding the only way forward imo...
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alladin , im with you .. if i was on speculative bid and stalls opens and the horse just stood there i would of thought ... ive done my cash in .. expected it to be classed as runner .
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From RP Analyis:
Even with eight non-runners, most of which were priced up at about 20-1 and longer, this was a really difficult handicap to unravel. The field split into three groups, and supporters of the fairly short-priced favourite got no run for their money, as Speculative Bid had his head in the adjacent stall as the gates flew open. After the race, the stewards enforced a rule put in place by the BHA a few years previously, seemingly never used before, which covers horses denied a fair start, and declared David Elsworth´s gelding a non-runner despite being in the stalls. |
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The horses head was over the stalls of bushcraft , why was he not declared a NR as well
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its all good and well if you was on the favourite , you get your money back .. what about all thoose on heavens guest .. who have lost **** loads on the rule 4 .. the must be right pissed ..
never mind .. just watch see what happens if it was to happen again , i bet your life it would be counted as a runner .. |
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The horse has now officially been decalred a runner by the track and they have acknowledged their error by initially calling it a Non runner.....FACT
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im left counting the cost of this almighty balls up...
had over a century ew for the winner nearly 450 for speculative bid gave the 450 back and non runner on any multi's cant wait to get out this game |
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From the "sporting life"
NR (25) 3 Field Of Dream J A Osborne 8 9-6 T J Murphy 25/1 NR (27) 6 Jallota C Hills 4 9-4 Jim Crowley 16/1 NR (5) 9 Belgian Bill George Baker 7 9-3 W Buick 16/1 NR (12) 10 Ayaar (IRE) L M Cumani 5 9-3 L Dettori 10/1 NR (21) 14 Unforgiving Minute C G Cox 4 9-1 S J Drowne 14/1 NR (11) 20 Firmdecisions (IRE) D K Ivory 5 8-11 P Cosgrave 20/1 NR (26) 25 Sir Robert Cheval M Botti 4 8-8 M M Monaghan (3) 33/1 NR (7) 26 Redvers (IRE) E F Vaughan 7 8-7 Hayley Turner 25/1 Also Ran Speculative Bid (IRE), |
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so what we are saying here is that if a horse comes under starters orders, even though that particular call can be an error on the starter's part (plainly the case here - as how can a horse with it's head in another stall and no jockey on it's back come under starters orders?) then the horse is a runner and it's tough luck on the punters who have backed it?
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what we have is another shambolic horse racing c0ck up overseen by the wonderful bha and their dogsbodies
if you want a rule that can call nrs after a race fine, but have the common sense to know how the industry 9including the exchanges) works they should be issued with water pistols and clown masks before being allowed into the stewards room |
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