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Harry Findlay - what is he up to now?
Harry Findlay - what is he up to now?
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me?
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no you
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APART FROM HIS SISTER MUSTANG SALLY
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but it might be him
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Mrs MUSTANG CAN YOUR JOHNNY COME OUT AND PLAY SKIPPING WITH US
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No HES TOO BUSY PLAYING WITH HIS MY LITTLE PONY TOYS
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WILL YOU TELL HIM DO WAH DIDDYS BEEN FOR HIM TO PLAY OUT
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xmoneyx
me? Yes. You ought to be ashamed of yourself coming out with utter trash like that. |
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seems a like a totally genuine bloke judging from the youtube doc from his younger days...great guy to be around i reckon . Very much doubt he is broke when he was talking about buying dog tracks not so long ago.
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YES MRS MUSTANG I WILL LOOK FOR HIS CINDY DOLL IF HES LOST IT,
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good man xmoneyx
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Great guys to be around usually want YOU to be around not because YOU are great to be around.
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JoHNNY MUSTANG HAAD A TROUBLED TIME WHEN HE WAS A TEENAGER ,HE WAS THE ONLY LAD ON THE COUNCIL ESTATE WITH A GAY PIT BULL TERRIER,NONE OF THE OTHER DOGS WOULD LET IT SMELL THEIR BOTTOMS ,NEITHER WOULD THE DOGS OWNERS LET IT SMELL THEIR BOTTOMS EITHER
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HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN DELUDED ,EVER SINCE HIS PARENTS CALLED HIS COUNCIL HOUSE CHERRY TREE COTTAGE
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HMRC WEBSITE CURRENT RULES RE TAXATION:
BIM22017 - Meaning of trade: exceptions and alternatives: betting and gambling - the professional gambler The fact that a taxpayer has a system by which they place their bets, or that they are sufficiently successful to earn a living by gambling does not make their activities a trade. The case of Graham v Green [1925] 9TC309 concerned a man whose sole means of livelihood came from betting on horses at starting prices. Rowlatt J says at pages 313 and 314: ‘Now we come to betting, pure and simple… the man who bets with the bookmaker, and that is this case. These are mere bets. Each time he puts on his money, at whatever may be the starting price. I do not think he could be said to organise his effort in the same way as a bookmaker organises his. I do not think the subject matter from his point of view is susceptible of it. In effect all he is doing is just what a man does who is a skilful player at cards, who plays every day. He plays today and he plays tomorrow and he plays the next day and he is skilful on each of the three days, more skilful on the whole than the people with whom he plays, and he wins. But I do not think that you can find, in his case, any conception arising in which his individual operations can be said to be merged in the way that particular operations are merged in the conception of a trade. I think all you can say of that man ... is that he is addicted to betting. It is extremely difficult to express, but it seems to me that people would say he is addicted to betting, and could not say that his vocation is betting. The subject is involved in great difficulty of language, which I think represents great difficulty of thought. There is no tax on a habit. I do not think ”habitual” or even “systematic” fully describes what is essential in the phrase “trade, adventure, profession or vocation”.’ This shows that having expertise or being systematic (‘studying form’) is not enough to create a trade of being a ‘professional gambler’. Some ‘professional gamblers’ do carry on a trade, for example, where they receive appearance money for appearing on television programmes. They are providing a service to a customer (the television production company) for reward. Whether their gambling winnings are proceeds of that trade would depend upon the facts. |
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MANY A TIME LITTLE JOHNNY WOULD RUN UP TO THE POSTMAN ,AND SAY POST MAN PAT WHAT HAVE YOU GOT FOR CHEERY TREE COTTAGE TODAY ,ONLY FOR THE POSTMAN TO SAY LOTS OF BILLS AND A COUPLE OF COURT SUMMOMSES AND A SPECIAL OFFER LEAFLET FROM COSMO BINGO ,YOU STUPID LITTLE BOY
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Interesting BBC2 programme on Harry a good few years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3I-F5ctHfA |
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YOU CAN LEAD A MUSTANG TO WATER ,BUT ITS NOT YOUR FAULT IF IT DOESNT DRINK BECAUSE IT CANT DIFFERENTIATE ITS MOUTH FROM ITS BOTTOM
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Another interesting thread derailed by a private feud.
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sorry i will dissa Pear ABRA CADABRA IZY WIZZIE LETS GET BIZZIE AND FIND A WINNER
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Doesn't bother me to be honest - you just scroll through the crap from DWD - who now has the moniker 'biggest moron on the forum' and that comes with an apology to other morons - it's difficult to find a word to describe this utter cretin.
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Don't know about the UK but the attitudes are changing here in Ireland. A professional gambler who is engaged in the trade or business of gambling, is allowed to offset losses and expenses of gambling against income from it .Among the requirements for being considered a professional gambler engaged in gambling as a trade or business, the profit motive requirement will depend on -
1. The manner in which the taxpayer carries on the activity. If the taxpayer conducts gambling activities in a business like manner, such as maintaining complete books and records, this factor favors finding a profit motive. 2. The expertise of the taxpayer or his or her advisers. Preparing for gambling activities by extensive study and consulting with experts may indicate that the taxpayer has a profit objective. 3. The time and effort expended by the taxpayer in carrying on the activity. A taxpayer who devotes much time and effort to conducting gambling activities may thereby show an intention to make a profit. 4. The expectation that assets used in the activity may appreciate in value. This factor might not be applicable to gambling activities, since the assets involved usually are cash. 5. The success of the taxpayer in carrying on other activities. A taxpayer’s success in converting other nongambling business activities from unprofitable to profitable may indicate a profit motive for the gambling. 6. The taxpayer’s history of income or losses with respect to the activity. A history of substantial gambling losses may indicate that the taxpayer did not conduct the gambling activities for profit. 7. The amount of any occasional profits. A few large wins, however, can indicate a profit motive despite more routine losses of lesser amounts. 8. The taxpayer’s financial status. If a taxpayer does not have substantial income from nongambling activities, it may indicate that the taxpayer engages in gambling for profit. 9. The presence of elements of personal pleasure or recreation. Since gambling at a casino is commonly understood to be an amusement, a taxpayer has to show there is no pleasure in gambling (for example, no friends or family members accompanied the taxpayer). |
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whats all the chit about engaging in gambling for profit ,obviously everyones doing that that(may indicate that the taxpayer has a profit objective)
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its prob going to be all they have to prove t tax u if u make profit and then no9 is for them to get out of people claiming for losses
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the dog track at Brandon,bought or rented/leased? I thought the principle business at Brandon was the Speedway it has never been the dogs. I think the stock cars got more public support than the dogs did.
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only about 15% max of gamblers make a living from it,thats different to making a profit. HMRC do not get involved as all losing punters would offset their losses against winnings and actual earnings. The taxman knows that that can of worms needs to stay unopened as a lot of normal joes would never pay tax and probably be due a rebate on their losses.
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Stood on the balcony of the old living room (now Missoula bar) in York on the Thursday of the Ebor meeting, it was only 4pm racing hadn't finished but id done me brains in so came away early.
I looked down and H was stood staring at the bridge and I shouted H its not exactly Sidney harbour bridge and by the way I know the 5s on chance got beat so don't stand quite so close to that water, he laughed and replied I haven't even been Ronnie only playing small on the dogs and the Asian handicaps as I have done all money on Coventry dogs, I am waiting for a result from Monmore, He then went on to tell me how things turn around, he told me how many years ago 4 of them went to India for the cricket they had backed the draw and laid India, on the eve of the final day they were certain to lose and had more money on than they had, he said they were worrying about 4 unmarked graves the next day as they couldn't pay, on the final day he had switched the tv on and there was a guy who was holding an umbrella saying no play today they had had a monsoon, the money they coped they went on to win a couple of mill in the Asian handicaps in the world cup. he then jogged on over the bridge and I was stood watching him and when he got half way over the bridge he answered his phone punched the air and shouted Ronnie, Ronnie the dogs won, god knows what the **** tourists near by thought. |
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shows what deep sh*t ireland has been in ...to come up with that croc
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what year?
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If he gambles like that and is heavily reliant on a DOG to win he cant be a long-term winner can he ?
The liabilities he risks coupled with the rollercoaster ride he would have to endure would put his EMOTIONAL skills up there with that of a ZEN MONK . |
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The clue might just have been the "Bankruptcy Notice" on the OP.
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the collector 11:34....."Lives in Australia now does Harry. Sydney. Lovely city".............how do you know ?
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Harry was/is a mug gambler. Had balls,give him that,but money buyers will always go skint
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.... but money buyers will always go skint
Totally agreed with this in the days of traditional bookmaking and punters not being able to lay. But nothing stays the same ... 100% books on BF, a greater % of favourites winning year on year; books not necessarily bothered by favs winning these days - with an unbalanced book in favour of outsiders it's what they want, in-running offering back-to-lay possibilities, |
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BILLBO DUMBO BAGGINS FUC C OFF IF YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHET IT MEANS,I DONT USUALLY SWEAR UNLESS I NEED TOO
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For a so called mug he doesn't seem to have lived a bad life at all.
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^ chill do wah ffs
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I've never seen you swear before Diddy
 . I met Harry a few times at various dog tracks over the years, one night at Milton Keynes he turned up with a posse and just as the hare was running they all lashed into his dog at 11/4 I think it was and it literally won by half the track. |
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NO I AM CHILLED OUT OTHERWISE I WOULD HAVE CALLED HIM BILBO DILDOE BAGGINS
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what does term money buyer mean?
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