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Jim Best - the modern day equivalent of Barney Curley?
Jim Best - the modern day equivalent of Barney Curley?
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You didn't need to be Columbo to see this one coming, Flint rides once in a blue moon, has a winner every time Halley's Comet comes round and would have been 6lb overweight.
Recipe for the biggest feasible price on Saint Helena early doors. |
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Well I,m of the opinion that this mob are pulling a stroke ie 3/1 not to place and 6/4 not to win.FWIW I,ve laid it not to place and backed Operatuer ew who incidently has a very similar profile to SH.
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Saint Helena wins or have the layed the lot off anyway after getting the big price
the McCoy strike rate and this things form would suggest it wins today after Matty got it stuffed in every other race |
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^ Good luck
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i'd have missed the ride too if i had been riding Leonna
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had
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had
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not currently ..
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still nice memories though even washing his car,awww
https://twitter.com/rhys_flint/status/469075998487904256 |
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FWIW I don't think this will win, wouldn't surprise if the stable are laying it at the off
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Thought this might interest a few people and provide a little insight into where to go next and the difficulty of the present handicap system.
I owned a moderate but 5 time winning mare a few years back and after a tendon injury She was sold for breeding. The owner could not get her in foal and she was offered back to us and we did get her in foal eventually. She had a fair bumper and flat horse called Tanktastic which we sold and one went to Ireland which I don't think made the racecourse. The last one was a tiny filly called Miel Valeur that I put into training despite reservations about her size. After a quiet run in a bumper the brief was to get as close as possible in her 3 runs over hurdles to make sure she got a mark! She ran 2 fair races and one bad one with collective defeats of about 140 lengths and was given a mark of 78. At the time we were spending money that we could barely afford pursuing our dream and doing it openly and honestly and hopefully providing a bit of employment along the way. The question could be that should any horse be given a rating on such wide margin defeats or should a run have to qualify by finishing 4th or better. At the moment there are probably plenty of small owners like us seething when SMP plays his tricks with his juveniles and gets knighted and they play the game just to try and get a flat rating of 60. I would be less than happy if something like the JB horse beat mine today, never mind the punting angle. There needs to be a rethink here as honest owners wont leave in droves but some will and the perception of the sport is being challenged by people who should have no part of it. |
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Saw this developing last night and I'm not convinced so my alternative scenario:
Drift pre off Sat off pace, effort 3 out, weakened after, finished tired. Everybody is happy, bookies get the guessers dosh (obv connections won't have invested a penny) conspiracy dashed, all ready for another day...... Either way it should be an interesting watch! |
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Big Boss
03 Sep 14 12:40 Joined: 08 Jun 02 | Topic/replies: 2,024 | Blogger: Big Boss's blog You didn't need to be Columbo to see this one coming, Flint rides once in a blue moon, has a winner every time Halley's Comet comes round and would have been 6lb overweight. Recipe for the biggest feasible price on Saint Helena early doors Game by the boll0x !!! |
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not easy being this good SITC, but I manage it
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Now We Know,
Prescott was never knighted, he's a Baronet and that's a hereditary title first awarded to his grandfather. |
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There has and always will be loopholes to be exploited for those who are that way inclined, just more visible to more people these days because of the saturated coverage available to anyone who cares to watch it.
Additionally as illustrated by this thread the majority of people are well aware of the relevant players who involve themselves in this type of "coup". Given the amount of racing that takes place in any single week of the year, why does it cause so much angst...? There is no one forcing you to play said race, anyone that had done their own analysis of the race would surely be giving this race a wide berth anyway, given that so many have highlighted it as an issue. Is the real problem that people are disgusted that it is allowed to go on unchecked or that they have missed the boat and failed to put themselves in a position to profit from it...? |
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Fair enough The Anorak.
Off with head, the French have at least got one thing right.  |
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The REAL problem Cork Langer is that by their supine approach the BHA (supposedly the regulators of the sport) sit back and do nothing to discourage this kind of behaviour.
Indeed it might be said that in allocating a handicap mark on such flimsy evidence they are encouraging it... |
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Jim Best another Barney Curley
. What planet you on |
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parispike, why do you expect them to do anything now when the various different bodies in charge have done little in the previous untold decades of the sport...?
There has to be a want and there never will be, because they know the same as we do that it is all supposition, nothing can be proven even though the facts are there for all to see clearly if they so desire or bother to. If we didn't have access to this forum how many of us would discuss it or raise it as an issue...? You know there will be nothing said in the press, consequently no one is going to rock the boat so ultimately nothing will be done. |
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MORE IMPORTANTLY WHO IS BACKING OR LAYING?
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i layed planetoid last year at nabbot
not going anywhere near the race  |
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i think it goes without saying
you cant back his horses on bare form shown and thats not good for general punters agree stride |
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LAY all DAY.... not built to STAY.
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if it wasn't proper money you would have expected it to drift late
gut feeling is it romps in but i'd rather watch |
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Fancy To The Sky, but even the rags have a chance
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i think the thread title is spot on
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not stay its a 2m race
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cowboys
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never in doubt
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another bleak day for the sport...should have their licence withdrawn imo
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How much did McCoy get them in running?
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AP earnt his money on that donkey!
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Didn't touch the race but wanted it stuffed personally
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i sometimes wonder if McCoy starts rowing to get a bigger price in running
but even hes not that good.... |
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totally rancid
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£1m matched on that race. Seemed high to me though I'm probably wrong.
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Orse couldn't jump didn't matter though
this was a great coup |
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if no form on the surface qualifying runs for hcps
should not get a mark he does this running on sh1te ground over hdls with fast ground flat runners time after time |
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£££££££££££££££££££
all round Jockey sat at home even got paid on the withdraw |