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shady69 When: 24 Apr 14 16:40

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Virgin When: 24 Apr 14 16:41

stridingedge

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Pinza When: 24 Apr 14 17:32

U done it again. Well done.
Too much going on in garden for me to play today

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stridingedge When: 25 Apr 14 10:12

just 2 entries today neither qualify.

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stridingedge When: 26 Apr 14 11:22

date	race time	selection	early price	BFSP	price diff	placing	race p&l	p&l total	ROI

16:04:14	3:40 beverley	handwoven	5.80	8.00	37.93	3/10	-10.00	-10.00	-100.00
16:04:14	4:15 beverley	blue atlantic	3.80	4.79	26.05	=1/8	13.25	3.25	16.26
16:04:14	5:25 beverley	beylerby	9.20	16.00	73.91	6/7	-10.00	-6.75	-22.49
18:04:14	3:15 musselburgh	special meeting	6.20	7.20	16.13	3/12	-10.00	-16.75	-41.87
18:04:14	3:50 musselburgh	almargo	10.00	14.00	40.00	4/12	-10.00	-26.75	-53.50
20:04:14	3:05 musselburgh	spin artist	13.00	13.50	3.85	8/11	-10.00	-36.75	-61.25
20:04:14	3:35 musselburgh	sir frank morgan	9.40	22.38	138.09	4/9	-10.00	-46.75	-66.78
20:04:14	4:35 musselburgh	sir guy porteous	4.20	4.41	5.00	2/7	-10.00	-56.75	-70.93
23:04:14	3:05 catterick	little shambles	12.50	16.82	34.56	1/6	150.29	93.54	103.94
24:04:14	4:30 beverley	opera fan	3.80	3.95	3.95	1/6	28.03	121.57	121.57

a couple of people have commented why lingfield was included, i have taken out the 3 lingfield aw selections as this is called a turf thread, there will be no aw selections posted here over the season.

plenty of runners today but no selections.

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Pinza When: 26 Apr 14 13:33

Looking at AW during flat months (May-Sept) there seems to be some merit looking at maidens & hcps group
Very few odds on winners (I counted 4) in that grouping.
Very few higher class hcps (B & C grades amount to six, including one 2yo race)
He's gone away from sellers and claimers on AW in that summer period (Last winner 2003)
There is probably good reasoning to run on AW for such a stable in the summer months, but it's probably easier to ignore
as time is taken up very quickly in those mid season months.

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stridingedge When: 28 Apr 14 13:27

no selections again today

cannot believe we have 3 aw meetings

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stridingedge When: 29 Apr 14 10:30

no qualifiers again today unfortunately but he's had 17 turf runners since the last one and none have won so pleased with that.

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Virgin When: 29 Apr 14 10:32

Going well then

....

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stridingedge When: 29 Apr 14 10:38

so far so good v

interested in seeing how bahamian art runs this evening at newcastle, fastest 3f visually on turf so far for a 2yo, was never ever going to keep that up on its debut.

looked a bit raw though certainly not one for punting 5f on soft at this sort of price.

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Virgin When: 29 Apr 14 10:49

6.50 Newc CRAFTY SPELL was an interesting one potential in the breed for tonight's event

struggling to find anything solid though

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stridingedge When: 29 Apr 14 11:45

sorry virgin just been stuck on the phone

it doesn't tick enough boxes but a dire race and although i usually prefer fast ground for the johnston horses, he has a decent record of putting his 3yo's on soft for the first time especially if they were well stuffed lto and the pedigree is ok for soft too from a limited sample, master craftsman really devoured bad ground!.

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rewired When: 29 Apr 14 13:32

problem with Johnston horses following form so hard
very rare they follow the form book
so most of time im laying at shorter prices

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stridingedge When: 29 Apr 14 13:35

hopefully this is why form is not really what i'm looking at a lot of the time!

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Virgin When: 29 Apr 14 13:53

especially if they were well stuffed lto

criteria matched

gl with anything else today ....

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stridingedge When: 29 Apr 14 13:55

interested to see what the market makes of it virgin if it were at one of his more favoured tracks it probably would have sneaked in as a qualifier.

gl to you too

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stridingedge When: 02 May 14 11:22

3 entries today still no selections

a real waiting game, at least he hasn't had any turf winners since the last selected ran over a week ago.

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halcyon days When: 02 May 14 11:57

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stridingedge When: 02 May 14 13:56

i won't be picking an unraced 2yo

he's done that twice at the track recently

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hearts1874 When: 02 May 14 14:00

just had a 10er on mambo paradise @18/1 . ty mr johnston

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stridingedge When: 02 May 14 14:04

wd hearts

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hearts1874 When: 02 May 14 14:07

just a guess striding

, seen it was a 4 runner and with that stable you never know. 18/1 was too big to turn down.

gl today

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006 When: 03 May 14 12:05

Should we be reading anything into the fact that Johnston has two in the last at Newmarket and the stable jockey has his only ride of the day on one of them ?

Thoughts welcome.

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Pinza When: 03 May 14 13:54

The time he had a winner with two or more runners in this class of 3yo hcp Nmkt over 8f there were three in the race
SEA LORD winner 13/2, Colepepper 7th 28/1 and Karaka Jack 9th 11/1

I make it 6 from 13 when more than one runner in clas 2 hcp 3yo+ race at Nmkt (I'm sure there's more that I missed)

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Pinza When: 03 May 14 13:54

Correction 3yo race

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breadnbutter When: 03 May 14 14:21

am still waiting on BF resettling the 3 a/w races ,a sent them an email saying it was a mistake and they should not have been included but have not had a reply

What a shocking stunt .....nearly as bad as 1874,s aftertime

(i backed it as well but dont want to shout about it)

take the horses out but leave the steaks imo ,if all three had won whats the chances of retrospective tidy up having taken place ?

a good thread but you cant be all spread sheeeted up and out with the tipex like taht imo

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stridingedge When: 03 May 14 14:59

i don't really understand wht your problem is

if i'd filled this thread up with aw selections it wouldn't have done what it said on the tin would it?

it's hardly going off track, there were 3 selections that don't belong in a flat thread, if i want to do aw selections i will put them up separately.

so in effect the results are exactly what the thread is set up to do.

there will not be any more changes, i'm pretty close to giving up on this place tbh as its full of aggression and negativity or complete tools, just about had enough.

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hearts1874 When: 03 May 14 15:08

breadnbutter, if you back as few winners as me your entitled to aftertime,. not as if i came on and said i had a ton on it

02 May 14 / 13:52 Single 1 1:55 Musselburgh – Win Mambo Paradise @ Guaranteed Price (18/1) Won £10.00 £190.00 O/11266753/0000004/F

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Virgin When: 03 May 14 15:17

magnet fully working

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stridingedge When: 03 May 14 15:18

still can't believe the price of that hearts, his 2yo mukhmal won a class 2 conditions race over 5f fto at musselburgh recently, would have thought the one yesterday would have seen more support.

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stridingedge When: 03 May 14 15:25

sherston was the one today that ticked nearly all the boxes but it didn't quite score enough pts to qualify.

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breadnbutter When: 03 May 14 15:43

so if they were 3 winners you would have taken them out ?

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stridingedge When: 03 May 14 15:53

i made changes to the table and decided that the thread would go down the line of flat only rather than aw selections included.

if i were to put more aw selections in throughout the season those 3 would have stayed in but there will be none on this thread so it just looked a bit odd for there to be 3 aw selections.

the decision i made would of meant that the aw selections would of been taken out regardless.

it's really up to you what you believe, the thread title has now been adhered to so i don't see why anyone needs to get their knickers in a twist.

if i do an aw thread those 3 selections will be included.

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breadnbutter When: 03 May 14 16:26

ok until your a/w thread starts your p/l is 91.57 ...fair is fair .you cant just be writing off 3 losers imo

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stridingedge When: 03 May 14 16:28

can you imagine if i did this thread 'turf' and only aw winners had won so far

what do you think the response would have been

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breadnbutter When: 03 May 14 16:44

you would have changed the title to a/w and removed all the turf losers imo

91.57

is a decent bank and gives you 9 bets to squeaky bum time instead of the 12 .

fair is fair

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stridingedge When: 03 May 14 16:49

i'll stick them back in just to shut you up

the turf thread will also have aw selections

anyone else wants to maon about that they can seriously do one!

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breadnbutter When: 03 May 14 16:57

good man and good luck

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stridingedge When: 03 May 14 17:06

date	race time	selection	early price	BFSP	price diff	placing	race p&l	p&l total	ROI

16:04:14	3:40 beverley	handwoven	5.80	8.00	37.93	3/10	-10.00	-10.00	-100.00
16:04:14	4:15 beverley	blue atlantic	3.80	4.79	26.05	=1/8	13.25	3.25	16.26
16:04:14	5:25 beverley	beylerby	9.20	16.00	73.91	6/7	-10.00	-6.75	-22.49
18:04:14	1:45 lingfield	aryal	9.00	9.10	1.11	4/11	-10.00	-16.75	-41.87
18:04:14	3:15 musselburgh	special meaning	6.20	7.20	16.13	3/12	-10.00	-26.75	-53.50
18:04:14	3:30 lingfield	hounting ground	7.40	7.45	0.68	12/14	-10.00	-36.75	-61.25
18:04:14	3:30 lingfield	blue wave	11.50	8.02	-30.26	8/14	-10.00	-46.75	-66.78
18:04:14	3:50 musselburgh	almargo	10.00	14.00	40.00	4/12	-10.00	-56.75	-70.93
20:04:14	3:05 musselburgh	spin artist	13.00	13.50	3.85	8/11	-10.00	-66.75	-74.16
20:04:14	3:35 musselburgh	sir frank morgan	9.40	22.38	138.09	4/9	-10.00	-76.75	-76.75
20:04:14	4:35 musselburgh	sir guy porteous	4.20	4.41	5.00	2/7	-10.00	-86.75	-78.86
23:04:14	3:05 catterick	little shambles	12.50	16.82	34.56	1/6	150.29	63.54	52.95
24:04:14	4:30 beverley	opera fan	3.80	3.95	3.95	1/6	28.03	91.57	70.44

cheers breadnbutter

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breadnbutter When: 03 May 14 17:34

you were showing 121.57 what happened ? should now be 91.57

can you no do the losers in red whilst you are at it ?