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By:
stridingedge
When: 21 Apr 14 13:11
no mart certainly not Laugh
By:
bigmart
When: 21 Apr 14 13:24
neither do i LaughLaugh
By:
Virgin
When: 21 Apr 14 15:53
3.40 )ish) Fak Full Ov Beans

I remember you putting this up when it went close before Wink
By:
Virgin
When: 21 Apr 14 16:02
Staffhoss Plain Well left Wink
By:
stridingedge
When: 21 Apr 14 16:05
the SDS one never sighted Wink
By:
stridingedge
When: 21 Apr 14 16:06
thanks for reminding me of fullovbeans Laugh remember that well last summer at stratford big price Crazy
By:
Virgin
When: 21 Apr 14 16:45
Only heard it ir Blush

Never had a chance to look at half the runners today ...'just' browsed my 16 GG Alert races Crazy
By:
stridingedge
When: 23 Apr 14 11:00
a dangerous day with plenty of runners, only 1 selected...

3:05 catterick little shambles 12.5
By:
Pinza
When: 23 Apr 14 12:28
M.J. not that good with his April runners at Epsom. Even following them isn't profitable.
His April 3yo stakes runners (2.50) have yet to field a winner (Elliots World managed a 2nd and did follow that with a win)
By:
Pinza
When: 23 Apr 14 12:44
Dangerous to go under 14 day rule with fillies that only had the one run - unless they were 2nd on that only run.
By:
stridingedge
When: 23 Apr 14 12:48
it's certainly not a bold shout today pinza

i would expect some better opportunities tomorrow tbh looking at the entries.
By:
Pinza
When: 23 Apr 14 13:30
Your right, not much today.
I've laid Hartnell for a tenner in view of his record here and the fact that no Long Break runner in last 12 yrs had won more than two races prior to this race.
By:
stridingedge
When: 23 Apr 14 15:08
oi oi thats more like it!! LaughCool
By:
Virgin
When: 23 Apr 14 15:08
Cool wd
By:
stridingedge
When: 23 Apr 14 15:09
just won't find them winners in the book!
By:
tips
When: 23 Apr 14 15:09
Cool
By:
nellie1970
When: 23 Apr 14 15:10
horse was clueless last time out not todayLaugh
By:
stridingedge
When: 23 Apr 14 15:14
27% at track with 3yo mdns

8-18 once raced 3yo mdns now at track
By:
stridingedge
When: 23 Apr 14 15:25
    date                selection        early price        BFSP        price diff        placing        race p&l        p&l total   
                                                                       
    16:04:14        3:40 beverley        handwoven        5.80        8.00        37.93        3/10        -10.00        -10.00   
    16:04:14        4:15 beverley        blue atlantic        3.80        4.79        26.05        =1/8        13.25        3.25   
    16:04:14        5:25 beverley        beylerby        9.20        16.00        73.91        6/7        -10.00        -6.75   
    18:04:14        1:45 lingfield        aryal        9.00        9.10        1.11        4/11        -10.00        -16.75   
    18:04:14        3:15 musselburgh        special meeting        6.20        7.20        16.13        3/12        -10.00        -26.75   
    18:04:14        3:30 lingfield        hounting ground        7.40        7.45        0.68        12/14        -10.00        -36.75   
    18:04:14        3:30 lingfield        blue wave        11.50        8.02        -30.26        8/14        -10.00        -46.75   
    18:04:14        3:50 musselburgh        almargo        10.00        14.00        40.00        4/12        -10.00        -56.75   
    20:04:14        3:05 musselburgh        spin artist        13.00        13.50        3.85        8/11        -10.00        -66.75   
    20:04:14        3:35 musselburgh        sir frank morgan        9.40        22.38        138.09        4/9        -10.00        -76.75   
    20:04:14        4:35 musselburgh        sir guy porteous        4.20        4.41        5.00        2/7        -10.00        -86.75   
    23:04:14        3:05 catterick        little shambles        12.50        16.82        34.56        1/6        150.29        63.54   
By:
stridingedge
When: 23 Apr 14 15:31
missed one there
By:
jonjon
When: 23 Apr 14 15:38
Beareu last at epsom..


Thats a price that master MJ may just let roll in
By:
jonjon
When: 23 Apr 14 15:39
hahah that word has always eluded me.. and i signed on for 4 years..

Bureau...
By:
curious-cat
When: 23 Apr 14 15:48
wd strider
By:
curious-cat
When: 23 Apr 14 16:01
... and MJ
By:
Virgin
When: 23 Apr 14 16:02
would have been nice double Cry
By:
stridingedge
When: 23 Apr 14 16:10
class 2's and epsom not at the top of the list v Cry
By:
Virgin
When: 23 Apr 14 16:13
maybe need a fine tune Wink
By:
Pinza
When: 23 Apr 14 19:29
stridingedge
Well Done on your winner
You can be forgiven for missing City & Suburban winner - two runners, both aged 4, both distance winners, officially rated within 1 lb of each other - and no clues from Mirror or Express (Virgin knows what I mean).
It's what I record as a Z Z winner (sleeper)
By:
stridingedge
When: 24 Apr 14 10:43
7 runners today was hoping for a few qualifiers when seeing the tracks on entries yesterday but just the one.

4:30 beverley opera fan 3.8 on the proviso its sp is no lower than 3.5
By:
nellie1970
When: 24 Apr 14 12:50
good luck today think theres been money around for the selection.might drift on course though
By:
stridingedge
When: 24 Apr 14 13:32
thanks nellie

will be interesting to see the strength of this one nearer the off, it is right at the minimum sort of price i'd ever want. i have set the minimum at 3.5 for the thread as the 3000 or so races i've based this on did not yield much profit at these odds.

there will be obviously plenty that win shorter but i'm happy to let them go, if this one were to drift markedly i will still leave it in for the purpose of the thread as i will be looking at the market when i have a big sample to see if it's worth heeding.
By:
Pinza
When: 24 Apr 14 14:16
M.J has won the 3.00 Bev on five occasions in last 11 races, and has won with a filly twice.
He also won with a once run winner Hacienda (male)
Both filly winners were well raced so I'm avoiding it today.

Have a small fancy for Handwoven but it's a dire race.
By:
stridingedge
When: 24 Apr 14 14:23
wouldn't be the greatest surprise pinza, handwoven.

one thing i did notice was its the shortest turn around its had between races since debut to 2nd outing.

didn't think the draw was great and no trip/class change

am bound to get some of these wrong on balance decided to leave it.

his runner in the 3:00 is just too short for me but does look strong.
By:
duncan idaho
When: 24 Apr 14 14:54
You can be forgiven for missing City & Suburban winner - two runners, both aged 4, both distance winners, officially rated within 1 lb of each other - and no clues from Mirror or Express


Laugh
By:
stridingedge
When: 24 Apr 14 14:58
i didn't get that dunc ConfusedBlush
By:
Virgin
When: 24 Apr 14 15:03
Pinza is on about the various ratings systems in those papers and especially if both highlight the same runner (imo)
By:
stridingedge
When: 24 Apr 14 15:04
oh i see

muteela wins there was 2.8 earlier so not a qualifier on price went off 3.85 and won cosily
By:
stridingedge
When: 24 Apr 14 16:34
probably got a bit lucky but horse was in the right place! Happy
By:
stridingedge
When: 24 Apr 14 16:36
    date                selection        early price        BFSP        price diff        placing        race p&l        p&l total   
                                                                       
    16:04:14        3:40 beverley        handwoven        5.80        8.00        37.93        3/10        -10.00        -10.00   
    16:04:14        4:15 beverley        blue atlantic        3.80        4.79        26.05        =1/8        13.25        3.25   
    16:04:14        5:25 beverley        beylerby        9.20        16.00        73.91        6/7        -10.00        -6.75   
    18:04:14        1:45 lingfield        aryal        9.00        9.10        1.11        4/11        -10.00        -16.75   
    18:04:14        3:15 musselburgh        special meeting        6.20        7.20        16.13        3/12        -10.00        -26.75   
    18:04:14        3:30 lingfield        hounting ground        7.40        7.45        0.68        12/14        -10.00        -36.75   
    18:04:14        3:30 lingfield        blue wave        11.50        8.02        -30.26        8/14        -10.00        -46.75   
    18:04:14        3:50 musselburgh        almargo        10.00        14.00        40.00        4/12        -10.00        -56.75   
    20:04:14        3:05 musselburgh        spin artist        13.00        13.50        3.85        8/11        -10.00        -66.75   
    20:04:14        3:35 musselburgh        sir frank morgan        9.40        22.38        138.09        4/9        -10.00        -76.75   
    20:04:14        4:35 musselburgh        sir guy porteous        4.20        4.41        5.00        2/7        -10.00        -86.75   
    23:04:14        3:05 catterick        little shambles        12.50        16.82        34.56        1/6        150.29        63.54   
    24:04:14        4:30 beverley        operan fan        3.80        3.95        3.95        1/6        28.03        91.57   
By:
nellie1970
When: 24 Apr 14 16:36
though shall not passHappyHappy

well done strider
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