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impossible to think that they had a rule book available yesterday.
If Twister actually said to them that "Sheehan went in a straight line", should have been enquiry over within seconds. They obviously decided they were going to throw out the winner regardless before the jockeys got in the room and took half an hour to find a reason to justify the reversal. Shame that the stewards are not accountable for their actions in law. Would stop this type of corruption, because there is little else to describe it. Other than indeed admitting they are escaped village idiots..... |
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That was my feeling exactly pedrobob..they already knew they wanted to reverse the result and then spent half hour with the 'how to do so'.
Either that or it's ineptitude of the highest order, and I don't think so somehow. If I was that inept at my job I would not last very long There should be an investigation ,and also an immediate correction of the result. |
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Recruiting ex-jocks to work as Stipendiary stewards
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par 29 Mar 14 22:53 Joined: 20 Jul 01 | Topic/replies: 5,361 | Blogger: par's blog
I watched it again, Twiston Davies could have gone to left of elader after the last, he wrongly chooses to go to left. he runs out of race track through no fault of the first past the post at water jump, when half a length behind. They hit the line very soon after. I don't even think he would have won in a clean run race to be honest. Imbeciles. My first view was that Benbens finishing faster and would have won with a clear run But looking at it again, as Par says, you can't even be certain he would have got up as the interference occurred just 7 or 8 strides from the line |
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On another note its a good job those 2 women moved away from the water jump or they would have been flattened by the loose horse.
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i backed benbens and was amazed to see it had won later. terrible decision by the stewards here. think greatrex will get it overturned if he appeals. but that run-in is pathetic at stratford.
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The layout of the track is a key factor in the controversy. Stratford dont seem to have learnt from previous incidents, the worst of which, a few seasons back saw Ruby Walsh with his head down after the last heading straight at the water jump. The first time he realised he was taking the wrong course he was so close to the barriers in front of the water jump that he had no option but to take the 2 sets of obstacles as a double. This he did superbly, but was inevitably disqualified and placed last.
There should be a set of bollards placed soon after the last tapering the run in and forcing the field off the line of the water jump well before they reach the obstacle. On the subject of jockey bans, surely the stewards 2nd biggest balls up of recent times was the 3 day retribution handed out to Brendon Powell Jnr at Cheltenham for his excellent race maneuver when stopping Brian Hughes from getting up his inner on the run in. The stewards deemed that Hughes had no right to go up Powell's inner and that as a consequence they (the stewards) could not overturn the result despite it being clear that Hughes would have won without the interference. How can they ban Powell when they declared that it was Hughes that was at fault? |
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Perhaps tracks like Stratford, Newbury, Aintree (and any others that have crooked run-ins) need to have specific rules about what line a jockey should/should not take when leading. It seemed to me that Gavin Sheehan was aiming his horse at the fence post (until the final few yards), rather than just inside the fence post. is that legal, or not? It's ok for there to be unwritten rules (about not letting a rival up your inside), provided they don't contradict with written rules.
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..or rather a rule about can/cannot, rather than should/should not.
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I layed Benbens
 Usually whenever there's a Stewards i always try to at least cover my stake, even when the result looks highly unlikely to be reversed, on the theory that you never know just how loonie the Stewards are, but, after seeing the head-on immediately after the finish it just din't occur to me that a reversal was even under consideration. I really thought the Inquiry would be about Sam Twiston-Davies not taking evasive action to avoid the rails! so I didn't even look at the betting on the Stewards. Interesting to read the Sporting Life's analysis: SP 9/1 Left in led 1st, headed 3rd, in touch, led again 7th to 9th, with leader, ridden after 3 out, regained lead next, hard pressed when edged right flat, held on (demoted to 2nd). I know that 'History is written by the victors', but that's ridiculous. |
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People actually bet on jumps racing..............................
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forget the Turpin bit...............
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the jockey on the winer was ahead on the run in n the stewards think he shud be looking behind just incase some idiot is not watching wat their doin so he can move over for him 99% of us know the stewards wer wrong bigtime but u stil get the clueless people that think they wer right the mind boggles
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Comedy Gold from the stewards...not sure what they were smoking or what statement they were trying to make but it was truly stupid and illogical.
The problem now is that the incorrect horse has been declared the winner and paid out. An appeal will mean nothing to punters who lost out (that's unless you're with a book that does 2 winners in this situation). |
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think its worth bearing in my mind that from what ive read that it was swt who said that the winner kept straight, sort of tapping you on the head after he,d dipped your pockets, maybe the scout pictures might have showed the winner not going from A to B as straight as it looks to us on the pics we,ve seen
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Had a tasty bet on Dolatulo at 12.50 , thought the money was in the bag , went out and was in shock when looked at the results later.
totally insane decision. Horse and jockey did nothing wrong , ran in a straight line . Only one explanation , stewards family friends of Nigel ? or worse ? financial corruption . if the race was in India [ Stratford upon Ganges ?] , the stewards would have been in a chicken kebab by six o clock. All of us who have been robbed should be compensated for this farce. |
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I always remember the Royal Gait disqualification and thought that at least under today's rules such a travesty of justice would not occur again. And now this happens.
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Made me laugh Jollie loved the idea of some dozy stewards skewered in a kebab by 6 o'clock.
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terrible decision .
i didn't bet on the stewards or the 1st/2nd , but the stewards need educating imo |
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shocking.
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Staggered!1 of the worst decisions ive seen, glad i didnt see it live as would have waded in on the honourable winner keeping it.
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It's these ***** at BHA that need a rocket imo as highlighted by Geoff Banks article recently.
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Leave local stewards to decide any enquiry and you will always get travesties like this - I'm not blaming them - the BHA should have taken these decisions from them - use 1 professional body at HQ for all race enquiries - they have the technology to do this and at least there would be some consistency in decisions
Yet again this will go to appeal and the decision reversed - wake up BHA cos this is another turn off, for would be new racegoers |
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In direct contrast to the other controversial decision at Cheltenham recently.
These stewards really are inconsistent. It's a game of chance when stewards have to make a decision. Something other than common sense seems to be pulling their strings. |
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Just an after thought but how many of these decisions go to appeal in an average year & how many usually get overturned
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In 40+ years of watching racing every-now-and-then at Stratford I have NEVER seen a jockey take the same line as Gavin Sheehan.
He jumped the final fence on the inside and by taking a straight line passed the post on the wide outside. Were every jockey to do this in a chase at Stratford, it would mean that the challengers would ALL have to go around the leader, which could mean mayhem were there to be three or four in with a chance. Think about it, three challengers to the right of the leader in a four-horse run to the line would all have to pull their horse around him -- and maybe lose momentum -- to get to the left hand side of him. By going in a straight line (which as I say I've not seen before at Stratford, Haydock or even Folkestone when they had a water jump in front of the stand) Sheehan would know he would be inviting trouble behind. Hence the charge of dangerous riding. By the way, I think a jockey was forced off the course at Plumpton's bottom bend this season in a similar way. |
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Surely they must have to throw out that last winner at Donny considering Spencer didn't move away from the rail to allow Buick to get by?
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tilted , why should any jockey running in a straight line , have to worry about what horses behind him are doing ?
should horses be fitted with wing mirrors iyo ? |
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mike parry on talksport ahead of his time,
suggested wing mirrors on horses 8 yrs ago, and they all laughed |
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one of the best wind ups on radio ever
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So a jockey leading has no right to keep a straight line??
Twiston Davies the dozy tw@t wasnt looking where he was going just got head down and really ought to have ploughed thro the fence to teach him a lesson. |
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you watch a couple of weeks down the line
they will object and get race |
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Sorry for the double post as I have only just seen your post titled but if you are serious (and you have taken the trouble to post several lines on the matter) and not just fishing then yours is the most unbelievable post I have ever seen on here and that's really saying something.
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So a jockey leading has no right to keep a straight line?
ffs lets have a bit of common sense here , ST-D was at fault and could have caused injury to all concerned . Why on earth should GS be worrying about anything behind him ? He was doing a grand job for conns and punters riding straight and focusing on the wining line. STD should face a ban for running his horse into a dangerous situation. |
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But he's been going to Stratford for over 40 years.
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Can't blame Gavin Sheehan for that STD had plenty time to switch outside like 3rd horse did,took a gamble didn't pay off Stewards should be shot with a tommy gun after being given a start of 15 seconds of course.
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Well said tilted, completely agree.
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Can't understand why people are being so obtuse. The stewards obviously consider that due to the course config the true line is to head diagonally across the course.
Having said that it is still a disgraceful decision as they couldn't possibly be certain the second would have won. |
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is the racing post analyst having a laugh ?
Chased leaders, effort 13th, went 3rd but not fluent next, very vigorously driven from 2 out, tried to challenge and hit last, closing when rail dolling off water and rival came up to greet him, lost all momentum final 50yds, finished 2nd, placed 1st ( |
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The close up in The Racing Post was written by Ian McKenzie who is confrontational to say the least. This particular comment as regards rail and rival coming to greet the original runner up is farcical. The man should be sacked.
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