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They cant.........can they...................wants someone like the geezer that laid the £2.310.00 loss to sue em & us back him......
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Greatrex furious as stewards reverse result
BY DAVID BAXTER 7:23PM 29 MAR 2014 THERE was a controversial demotion at Stratford on Saturday which could spark an appeal to the BHA by trainer Warren Greatrex after his clear-cut winner Dolatulo was disqualified following a stewards' inquiry. RELATED LINKS Watch replay Race result A dramatic finish to the feature 2m7f handicap chase led to runner-up Benbens, the 15-8 favourite, being awarded the race in favour of 9-1 shot Dolatulo. Sam Twiston-Davies was raising Benbens for a final thrust in the last few yards when he found himself short of room on the run-in, with Gavin Sheehan holding his line on Dolatulo. Twiston-Davies had to snatch up Benbens and clipped the running rail before losing by two and a quarter lengths. After a lengthy stewards' inquiry the result was reversed. Twiston-Davies felt justice had been done and said: "It made sense. If I'd have got the gap he [Benbens] would have won. Gavin kept a straight line but he never allowed for the fact I was there." Dolatulo's trainer Warren Greatrex said: "I'm furious. He kept a straight line and for me Sam Twiston-Davies was going where he shouldn't have been going. What are you going to do, pull over and let him by? It's got to be worth appealing." Senior stipendiary steward Chris Rutter explained the decision: "We felt Benbens was coming with a run and finishing stronger than Dolatulo. Had it not been for the interference the stewards felt Benbens would have won. "The stewards also felt it was careless riding from Gavin Sheehan. Even though his horse was slightly hanging to his right he should have done more and left enough room, so he was given four days for careless riding." |
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Twister - If I'd have got the gap he [Benbens] would have won. Gavin kept a straight line.....
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I wondered who the stipe was, C Rutter it was then.
Basically he was saying the jockey should have pulled 2 horses wide of the rail to let the challenger up his inside. Interesting opinion that. |
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So according to the stewards in a flat race if a horse is trapped on the rail full of running but cannot get out it should be awarded the race.....walofs!!!
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He took the "brave mans route" & failed.....................simples
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And the "interference" was Twistons own doing because he was going for a gap that was not there. If anyone should get the ban it should be Twiston.
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The race should av been left alone wiv a comment ............."that was a silly thing to do"
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Chris Rutter said , "without the interference"
There was no interference, it run out of room due to the track configuration. Interference is when a horse changes direction and impedes one, not when it holds it's line and the other goes for a gap that is not there. So the next time one burrows up a non existent gap on the rail it should get the race by that logic. You could not make it up. |
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WHATS WITH ALL THE OUTRAGE AND SHOCK,IF BOBSWORTH HAD FINISHED SECOND IN THE GOLD CUP IT WOULD HAVE GOT THE RACE,ITS A KNOWN FACT IN RACING THAT THE STEWARDS ROUTINELY FIND IN FAVOUR OF THE FAVOURITES WITH SOME OUTRAGEOUS DECISIONS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS MAINLY IN IRELAND BUT ALSO OVER HERE TWO CLASSICS SPRING TO MIND, BIG ODDS ON POKE AT CHESTER GETS TURNED OVER AMENDED RESULT FAV GETS THE RACE THE CHESTER STEWARDS FOUND"THE FAVOURITE WAS WORRIED OUT OF THE RACE BY THE WINNER"U COULDNT WRITE IT AND WOLVS HAD A SIMILAR CASE ABOUT 12 MONTHS AGO,ITS THAT BAD THAT THIS SITE HOLDS BACK SETTLING A RACE WERE THE FAV HAS BEEN BEATEN LESS THAN HALF A LENGTH,YET SETTLES ALMOST IMMEDIATELY WHEN THE FAV HAS WON.
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Such a decision and the subsequent explanation defy belief and make a mockery of the sport.
Must be the first time a horse has been disqualified for keeping a straight line. |
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The dangers of betting on the outcome decided by "Wurzels" perfectly illustrated here
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A Bookmakers view by Facts
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The third saw the danger and switched to the outside.
The favourite switched to the inside to deliver his challenge after the last fence and didn't see the hazard at all until the last minute. How can the first past the post lose the race and get stood down when he did nothing wrong? If the third had not switched when he did two of them would have been cut up. If anybody needed punishing it was the rider of the favourite for challenging on that side. What a ridiculous layout for a race course. The place should be closed until they get some proper managers in to sort it out. |
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comical decision and explanation by rutter , so rutter is saying that any horse who cant get a clear run because the leader wont move over and let him challenge deserves to get thrown out.will be interesting to see what the stripes say in the stewards defence when they reverse the decision.
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Sooner rather than later decisions will be removed from the hands of Amateurs in both horse racing and soccer.
All anybody can ask for is "fairness and consistency". |
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RACINGSTAR,ITS THE TRUTH THOUGH,THE LAST AMENDED ONE AT WOLVS WAS A SATURDAY NIGHT MEET THAT I WAS IN ATTENDANCE,THE FAV FINISHED SECOND AND WAS BEATEN FAIR AND SQUARE,I CAN HONESTLY SAY THAT HAD THE SECOND BEEN A 33/1 POKE THERE WOULDNT HAVE EVEN BEEN AN ENQUIREY,OF COURSE THEY CALL AND EBQUIREY THE FAV IS ODDS AGAINST TO GET IT,THEN SURE ENOUGH "AMENDED RESULT"FAV GETS GIVEN THE RACE,
SHOCK,TRIPLE BENT ME THINKS |
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Twiston-Davies felt justice had been done and said: "It made sense. If I'd have got the gap he [Benbens] would have won. Gavin kept a straight line but he never allowed for the fact I was there
>>>>>>>>>>no you wouldn't you had your head down driving away and did not look where you were going , the winner kept a straight line it was you that made the error by not looking where you were going not the leader you plank |
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THE STEWARDS ARE CONSISTENT ALLRIGHT,FAV FAV FAV FAV FAV FAV FAV FAV FAV FAV FAV FAV FAV FAV ,I WONDER WHEN THE LAST FAV WAS THROWN OUT,I THINK GOD WAS ALIVE
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Facts,
I never bet on the outcome of "Stewards" in Ireland but do so here when I have a view. This result will be overturned (not that it does anyone any good). |
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RACING,TOTALY AGREE!
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The favourite changed direction after the last in order to challenge on that side.
He found his own trouble. |
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I watched it - my horse was well beaten so no pocket talking at all ... i have never seen anything so absurd the winner did nowt wrong ... i suspect there will be some sacked stewards after that - truelly incompetant and really almost criminal considering money was involved !
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ILL NEVER FORGET THE POOR BLOKE IN THE WHEELCHAIR WHOS HORSE HAD JUST WON A BIG RACE(I THINK IT WAS NEWMARKET)BEING INTERVIEWED ON TV,NEXT MINUTE "STEWARDS ENQUIRERY,STEWARDS ENQUIRERY" YOU CAN GUESS THE REST!
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The black geezer
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YEP
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Noel martin, jacqueline quest, 1000 guineas
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ANOTHER UTTER DISGRACE,FAV FAV FAV FAV FAV FAV
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The SP of a horse should have absolutely no bearing on the outcome.
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BUT ITS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE RESULT
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Just watched this. A total shambles. Twiston-Davies had every opportunity to come the other side and opted not to take it. Tough.
Standing down Sheehan for 4 days for 'failing to take corrective action' is just the icing on the cake. A disgrace. |
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Twiston-Davies felt justice had been done and said: "It made sense. If I'd have got the gap he [Benbens] would have won. Gavin kept a straight line but he never allowed for the fact I was there."i cant believe he has said that and kept a straight face,so the next time he's riding one round the home bend at some gaff track and a 7lb claimer tries to come up his inside on the rail and shouts out "excuse me mr twiston davis,you seem to be blocking my way,do you think you could pull out slightly and make a gap so I could pass please"good old sam will pull out and wave him through giving a polite nod as he is passed,
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I watched it again, Twiston Davies could have gone to left of elader after the last, he wrongly chooses to go to left. he runs out of race track through no fault of the first past the post at water jump, when half a length behind.
They hit the line very soon after. I don't even think he would have won in a clean run race to be honest. Imbeciles. |
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to the right I should say.
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The most outrageous and shocking decision I have ever seen. I have had a fair few 'results' in the past with lucky dq's promoting my horse, but this, THIS, is clearly the bentest ever. The 'winner' won, keeping straight and doing nothing wrong, how on earth they amended the result is beyond me. If this is the way forward then fook me were all in for a rough time of it. I believed you were ordered to keep a straight line not get demoted for keeping one. How many other races have there been over the years where a jockey has gone the brave man's route and not got through in time. It's never been a case of best horse lost, more that the jockey made an error. I could rack up at least 5 unlucky in running horses ever single day but they don't get the result like this. I backed the loser/winner, and had it in a treble, so this result favoured me but jeez, I went back to the pub after watching it cursing my luck. Never thought for a min it would be an enquiry let alone a reversal. My cash is stained with bent, gruby stewards fingers.
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I missed todays racing to attend a wedding;it might have saved me a few quid. I saw the rumpus on here and thought id have a look at the race. To say i'm dumbstruck is an understatement. This decision, if upheld, surely changes the rules governing racing forever.
How can a jockey be expected to make room for other horses coming through?. A jockey , i presume, is pretty focused on getting his/her horse to the line ASAP and in a straight line where possible.The last thing they should be doing is checking over both shoulders to see if there is anyone wanting to overtake. And the last thing he/she should do is move over and let someone pass, especially when the challenger takes such an absurd route as Sam did. I am absolutely stunned that this was not a 1.01 to keep the race let alone the 1.06 someone mentioned. This decision will definitely get overturned or else their will be uproar 100's of times in the coming months when horses have nowhere to go on the rail and the winner is not thrown 'cos he didn't give the other horse a fair chance'. For what its worth, i'm not even convinced that Sams horse would have won if he had a clear run. I could write all night about this crazy decision and i probably would have if i'd lost cash on it. Truly remarkable. |
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ended up 1/3 and Benbens at 3s , so the eventual winner was backed from 20s into 3s !! , granted the longer it goes the price shortens , but still a big move considering that it looked to have no chance of getting the race.
Someone got a nice few quid out of it though ! |
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This joke of a decision cost me today but presumably in the Grand National the leader at the elbow will have to race a little off the rail just in case another runner needs to come by up its inside!
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How can a jockey be expected to make room for other horses coming through?. A jockey , i presume, is pretty focused on getting his/her horse to the line ASAP and in a straight line where possible.The last thing they should be doing is checking over both shoulders to see if there is anyone wanting to overtake.
sounds like Pat Cosgrave 1.01 to get his ban rescinded by the BHA. if the Stratford stewards had been officiating in Dubai, they'd have been baking him a birthday cake, not giving him a six month ban |
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To be fair we are getting close to 1 April - no point in even deliberating stewards and their decision making as they often makes no logical sense based on any interpretation of the rules
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