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Jockey Club Racecourse ~ revised each way terms ~ ALL CHANGE
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WHAT ABOUT THE FIRMS GOING 1/5 1.2...OR THE FIRMS WHO BET 1/6 1234....WITH A SMALL SIGN OF COURSE TO 120%....WHEN I'M BETTING 1/4 1234 TO 128 %.... JUST HALF A PER CENT PER RUNNER MORE THAN ME..... 75/20..15/4...13/1..17/1 ?
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FACT - WITH MY VIEWS.... JOHN PAUL GETTY HAD MORE CHANCE OF BEING ELECTED LEADER OF THE GREEN PARTY THAN I HAVE OF BECOMING CHAIRMAN OF ANY ASSOCIATION.
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THETRUTHURTS MY FRIEND,BUT AS U HAVE SO ELOQUENTLY ILLUSTRATED AS LONG AS THE IM ALLRIGHT JACK BRIGADE WHO RUN/HEAD MOST ORGANISATIONS ARE RUNNING THE SHOW THE UNSUSTAINABLE STATUS QUO WILL CARRY ON AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE THE DYING GAME IT HAS BECOME.
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THANKS FOR THAT FACT - THE GOOD OLD DAYS OF THE BETTING RING REALLY WERE THE GOOD OLD DAYS.....COLOUR....VIBRANCY....RESPECT FOR OTHERS....ALL MOSTLY GONE NOW....AND ALL SELF INFLICTED.....GREAT SHAME.
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Self inflicted is precisely my point. If we work together more, stop moaning about out individual lot - it is possible to bring about change. Too many bookies hell bent on blaming everyone but themselves
Permit me to bore you with brief tale from Newbury, where i bet next to a very nice gent- he's a modern day trader- put majority back as is his wont said to me at the end of trading how little he had made out of a muggy crowd bolstered by concert conveniently forgetting he is 1. exchange odds 2. restrictive each way 3. Never offered any other bookie a single hedge all day Sums up the blinkered approach I hear from too many these days eh? |
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OK SPORT,SO HOW WOULD THIS "WORKING TOGETHER MORE" MANIFEST ITSELF,DEMOCRATIC VOTING ON ALL MAJOR ISSUES,ONE BOOKIE ONE VOTE,FAIR AND TRANSPARENT NEGOTIATIONS WITH RACECOURSES,ONLY AGREED IF THE MAJORITY ACCEPT,GOOD LUCK U WOULD HAVE MY VOTE!
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Fact- Sounds good ....... hasn't it always worked this way.....
 why-ever not |
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Just had a look at the Newbury list,this would be rails pick 10 no doubt,a very early exchange pioneer,anybody remember the meeting at York racecourse where plenty of books attended in a debate on whether we used exchanges?
Will Rosoff gave a very reasoned argument for us not to use them,this guy was on the front row pleading the case for using them so that all the fiddlers could stick their chest out,2 minutes later he was out of the game as he discovered fast pics was the future (good luck to him),now the edge has gone there he's back. |
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RR NO IT HASNT I WOULD TELL U MORE BUT THINGS ARE AT CRUCIAL STAGE,SEE JOHN BATTEN ONCOURSE IM SURE HE WILL TELL U MORE
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sounds like another stitch up in progress |
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WELL WELL WELL RIBERO,HE NEARLY HAD MY VOTE,AND A CUP OF TEA
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AGM's are all well and good giving the members a yearly opportunity to air their views and concerns regarding the status quo but at the end of the day are they nothing more than fulfilling a constitutional necessity and tantamount to window dressing? If the Chairman is worth his salt and fair minded he should without exception ask for a vote from the floor in favour or against the motion and the Association MUST then take the matter forward. Chairmen take note !!! Pursuit of such democratic processes would be a major step towards the establishment of a much needed improved working framework.
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Ok - would somewhere out there please educate me ? How does the linkage / reporting structure / hierarchy / call it what you will work between the likes of the various area associations and the FRB, ARB and ARB - apologies to any body I have omitted ? What is the reporting structure ? If one Association has many more members than another and has voted for a certain action that should surely count for more than an opposite view expressed by very few members of a different Association with a far lesser membership. Until a structure is in place that binds those elected to negotiate and represent to express the views of the masses then the prospects remain questionable and unsatisfactory. Is the time near for the consolidation of the area associations in order that the premise of 'divide and rule' by others will have far less chance than it does now ?
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Ribero - rails newbury pick 10 would never consider voting pro exchanges in any shape or form on track. I believe in sustainable margin
Price ladder- 'modified' ie certain spurious prices removed any halves over 11/2 9/1, 11/1, 22/1 28/1 and any silly bit in between ie 13/1 also removed? 10/3 and 6/5 consider the effect on your book. It's a small change- but very transparent geoff banks |
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punter gets phone out 10/3 on internet dosent bet in ring.
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Many apologies SA, I obviously meant pick 11,i appreciate you wouldn't,i better get to the opticians!
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OBVIOUSLY AN ILLUMINATI PLOT TO DISCREDIT GEOFF,QUITE OUTRAGEOUS!
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DEMOCRAT,I CAN SEE IT NOW,ALL IN FAVOUR OF BANNING PITCH RENTING,99% AGREE,NO OBJECTIONS FROM THE RACECOURSES OR AGT OR GAMBLING COMMISSION,CHANCE OF IT HAPPENING 0.
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BIGGEST ABUSERS OF ALL THATS WRONG WITH ONCOURSE BOOKMAKING RESIDE MOSTLY IN THE TOP TEN PICKS,NO MORE QUESTIONS MI LORD!
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im just catching up on a few things and coming across sportsadvisors postings 19th ...13.53--14.01.........YES GET RID OF THE CURRENT LEADERS YA CAN SEE EASILY JUST EXACTLY WHAT THEYVE DONE ,OK THEY SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND HARD WORK IN TALKS BUT TO WHOSE BENEFIT
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MUGBOOKIE 19TH.....17.51.........BRILLIAINT STATEMENT
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as a non bookmaker can i ask do you lads have to be members of a bookmakers trade assosiation to stand
on the racecourses bpa rba etc or is membership optional and non members dont have to abide by decisions made by such. |
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IF THE MAJORITY OF YOU WANT TO OUTLAW PITCH RENTING THEN WHY DONT YOU DO IT .....CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG .....BUT DONT YOU HAVE A VOTE .....IF YA NOT HAPPY WHOS RUNNING THE SHOW ,THEN HOW COME YOU DONT VOTE EM OFF...............IM SCRATCHING MY HEAD HERE ........................AT WHAT PERCENTAGE IS THERE PITCH RENTING BOOKIES 51 I DOUBT IF THERES 49 THEN WHY DONT THE 51 THAT DONT LIKE IT FK EM OFF ....................ITS CALLED HAVING A VOTE ISNT IT......DEMOCRACY ........................FOXY YA BETFRED ISSUE IS SPOT ON I WENT JULY AND THE HAD EM IN MEMBERS THEY HAD QUEUES ALL NIGHT THE RAILS WASNT BOTHERED THEY WERE DOING A RIGHT TRADE THAT NIGHT (BUT YA RIGHT)
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FACT if you are saying that despite an overwhelming democratic decision outlawing pitch renting it would still go on then you might be correct. This issue would need to be supported by another decision to allow one person to be on only one Schedule Y - this in itself would not prevent pitch renting but it would definitely reduce it.
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mr crisp ,
no you do not have to be a member of any association |
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York today
race 1 1234 at 1/6th odds race 2 12 at 1/5th odds race 3 12 at 1/5th odds race 4 12 at 1/5th odds race 5 1234 at 1/6th odds race 6 123 at 1/5th odds now banned banks thinks he is the best thing for bookmaking since sliced bread and johnny Wilkinson licks his backside whenever possible. the best advert for this thread imaginable imo |
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If we had the remit to run the pitches then, yes, we could have a vote and that would then decide what happened.
Unfortunately we don't. |
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adge, that is appalling. I thought such shenanigans were a thing of the past. Disgrace.
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That,s why you lot need regulated,just a bunch of pickpockets.
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mmmalushka
how did you find York today ? |
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Mmmama pickpockets are disciplined, professional and organised in what they do, ( some even work as a team ) - your comparison does not seem very appropriate !
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foxy,not been to York for years.
democrat, race 1 1234 at 1/6th odds race 2 12 at 1/5th odds race 3 12 at 1/5th odds race 4 12 at 1/5th odds race 5 1234 at 1/6th odds race 6 123 at 1/5th odds What a way to treat your punters,and then they come on here and moan about the lack of business compared to years ago despite attendances holding up and increasing. adge,1/5 the odds 16-21 runner h/caps is just treating your customers with contempt dont forget punters have expenses too. |
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LOLOL ADGE I CANT BELIVEEVE LOLOL YOUVE SAID THAT ABOUT ME LOLOLOL........THE REASON IVE HIGHLIGHTED YOUR THREADS IS BECAUSE TO TAKE IN EVERYTHING YOU SAY LOLOL THE LAST TIME U HAD A LOSING DAY WAS ABOUT 6 YEARS AGO LOLOL........YOUR HILARIUOS
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NOW FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER IM ABOUT TO TAKE SIDES WITH MAMMY BUT 20.40 AND 13.56 POSTINGS THERE IS A SUBSTANCE VIABILITY IN HIS REPLYS ISNT THERE ???????THE PEOPLE THAT BET TO THESES TERMS WOULD BASICALLY FK THERE GRANDMA............I DONT EXPECT ONE COMEBACK TO WHAT IM SAYING BEACUSE MOST OF YOU HAVE SPENT THE LAST 5 YEARS SMASHING JOCKY AND THE REST OF EM OVER LONG OFF
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ADGE LOLOLOL YOUR MY FAVOURITE
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mmm , I don't believe that many who shaft the public mercilessly come on here moaning . could be wrong though.
lost £135 on the places with the 16 runner handicap betting to 106% is that treating people with contempt. you have a lot to learn about betting and value just for you johnny , I lost 4 -2 today [ just over £50 plus exes ] |
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feck know's what this is all about but all I can say is jonnywilkinson * CAP FECKIN LOCKS YA CANT !
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ROLL ON 2019
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mmamaluska still bookie bashing (do u never give up !! )
as you know you get better win prices with the 1/5th odds ,and as anyone who has tried betting 1/4 odds in 16 runner races , will tell you, the majority of the punters want the best WIN prices !! and before you say use your phone : you consistently beat the show and SP on course !! |
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adge iwon 252 on places today ( betting standard terms of course )jocky will have paid for the week !!
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