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16 Jun 13
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Won 1 of his 4 turf races
Won 2 of his last 6 races
Unless the horses that have been smashing this chump are among the best in the world, this is the lay of the week.
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Won 2 of his last 6 races
Unless the horses that have been smashing this chump are among the best in the world, this is the lay of the week.
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Forgot to mention his perfect record over a mile. Beaten twice in 2.
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I reckon well see 5/4 at least on the day
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The opposition don`t look the best.
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Trumpet Major either first or last in quite a number of his starts. What's the problem with this horse? Will be 50/1 when he finally wins a G1. At 40's he is clearly better value than the fav, but not one to count on obviously.
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very erratic trumpet major but he has a lot of ability , like you say cant rule out. I like both trade storm and elusive kate ,very consistent horses. should run good races.
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Poor race but AK's beating of Excelebration and Moonlight Cloud at the BC puts him miles ahead of this bunch. The straight course at Ascot is well drained so will not be soft so odds against looks very good to me.
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Trumpet Major won't be winning this
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Biggest worry for Animal Kingdom is the danger of ground on soft side of good. Lots of showers set to hit Ascot before start of racing Tuesday - well done Chris Stickels on watering the track. Genius.
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my worry is his prefered style of racing and how it'll translate back at a mile....what will Johnny V do? Hold him up, track leaders or bounce him out and make all up the rail?
would like to see JV bounce him out and make all up the rail...wind it up at halfway...but I've never seen AK do that before. |
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The stalls will probably be in the middle.
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that's correct, centre on the straight course
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animal kingdom returns home to australia to retire after ascot
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dubai world cup night and we heard the aussie national anthem belting out
wonder how many poms went for the mute button, must know it word for word by now |
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I wouldn't say Elusive Kate was miles behind on good ground. Maybe a few lengths but that can be counter acted by her being at home.
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What you are gambling on GCW is that AK doesn't turn up for the gig. On all known form he is a long way clear. Of course he may not turn up but I prefer to back the best horse and take it from there.
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anyone seen that Gallop on ATR ?
Durcan is pushing away on Animal Kingdom and the other jockey is just sitting there quietly. |
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but the other jockey was on frankel
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How can Animal Kingdom return to Australia? it's never been there has it?
Anyone know how much the Arrowfield Stud paid for the majority share tho? he's listed at $38,500 a pop. |
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the great tonny ennis has it won already , reckons by 4/5 lengths
 . good curse tony, good curse1 |
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Lay all day?
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This is the best and surely the biggest big of ages. A gift of all gifts, a proven top class horse running against rags and people find reason to lay??.
Lump on and watch with ease, lay and you won't enjoy 1 second of the race. |
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* biggest bet * sry
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Won 1 of his 4 turf races
Won 2 of his last 6 races Unless the horses that have been smashing this chump are among the best in the world, this is the lay of the week. And the opening post doesn't concern you a tad  |
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he's bred to be a turf horse, whatever happened anywhere else was a bonus, getting no run and still finishing ahead of at the time the 2nd highest rated horse in world excelebration in breeders cup turf mile is more than enough form to win rag race tomorrow. The thought behind the trainer running on turf at a breeders cup said enough. He was odds on a few weeks ago when he possibly had a danger. Now he's a similar if not better price without the godolphin horse. there is no concern unless the going changes. His stats in defeat mount to far more than the form of the opposition in their defeats or are they unbeaten?
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which Godolphin horse was that sorry?
He's still lost 3 out of his last 4 turf races though, no? |
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Godolphin horse = Farhh
He was n't odds on, they were vying for favouritism at 5/2, 11/4. How would he be odds on with Farhh in the race?...some people make it up as they go along. |
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it is a totally different examination to anything he has faced before :
straight track undulations watered going compared to flat left handed ovals with sharp turns, no telling how he will handle it really |
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Farrh was 2nd favourite for this race prior to injury, surely you are aware of that, he won easily and would have made me less bullish, he trounced most of tomorrows runners.
If he won two turf races and one of them was a breeders cup turf race over a mile would you be convinced. Well he should have and would have with a clear run, and that was a proper race with decent horses. I'm a backer I've given my reason and if the forecast layers can come up with any reason why or who can defeat the horse, speak up. Put it out there. |
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rose keep up with facts and don't believe AK was a similar price to farhh twt a
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yep sorry Farrh. I backed him for the Lockinge.
I;m trying to find Animal Kingdom's last 4 turf races which, apparently he only won one of |
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the facts are Animal Kingdom and Farhh were vying for favouritism in the Queen Anne until Farhh was declared lame and out of Royal Ascot.
You stated above that 'He was odds on a few weeks ago when he possibly had a danger.' I'm saying he was n't odds on. He was 5/2 or 11/4. Farhh would probably have been shorter but for the school of thought which suggested that Sheik Mo would target Prince of Wales with Farhh because he has 29% share in Animal Kingdom and would not want them racing each other. What part of the statement 'He was odds on a few weeks ago when he possibly had a danger.' is true? |
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rosie your prices are wrong, the point been made was that there was a danger now theres not, ive said all night i'd back the horse at any odds against these rags, you want to find holes in opinions and sit on fence twa t but hey its never never land you live.
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can anyone tell me his positions in last 4 turf races?
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Animal Kingdom deserves to be odds on all known form, but if a fully wound up Elusive Kate can grab an early lead and quicken while AK is held up looking for a run 11/2 does look like a sound ew option?.
The rest of the field look like pure muck. |
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Animal Kingdom sat very handy in the DWC - I think Johnny V will jump from 13, head to the rails and either lead or sit handy. He won't complicate it
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baNjackst 17 Jun 13 23:00 Joined: 20 Jun 11 | Topic/replies: 188 | Blogger: baNjackst's blog rosie your prices are wrong, the point been made was that there was a danger now theres not, ive said all night i'd back the horse at any odds against these rags, you want to find holes in opinions and sit on fence twa t but hey its never never land you live. at least I'm not borderline illiterate, twa t |
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The rest of the field look like pure muck.
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Surely EK would be a better bet without the fav? She may win but she is relying on the favourite either not performing or getting into trouble.
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Hasn't won or raced rh. Has beaten Excelebration, good yardstick, unlike any of these.10 1b clear on ratings at level weights.However there is a possibility he finds trouble IR and he has had a serious leg injury. Back to lay AK IR, he is sure to trade shorter, 1.6 maybe not to get too greedy. Can't be backing Elusive Kate, has ran well behind some good horses but winning in a scrappy race might be a different deal.DOW still 3rd fav, maybe the stable expect him to bounce back, not for me.
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