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I am tomorrow going to the bookies to smash fobts
I am tomorrow going to the bookies to smash fobts
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Haven't read through all this, just wondered if he's started smashing them up yet?
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How the hell anyone can bet on a programmed outcome where the gambler cannot win . FOBS ... in the USA they built a city on losers its called Las Vegas
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Optic, you say in a post that you have excluded yourself from certain shops, but that they still let you play even though they know you are on an exclusion list. The bookies constantly go on about how they have these rules for self exclusion in place as being all the safeguard that is needed by them to help problem gamblers stop. They make a huge deal about this as a counter argument against their critics that say they do nothing to stop people with obvious addiction problems from playing their machines. Rather than smashing up machines, which will do nothing but cause you getting into more trouble, why not exclude yourself from as many different bookies as is possible, then if what you say is true about still being allowed to play even though they know you are excluded, return to the bookies, but this time armed with something that will enable you to gather the proof needed, that it is indeed true that they are breaking their own rules.
You have taken a huge step on your road to your recovery, by recognising and admitting you have a problem, proving that bookies are breaking the regulations (if true), would be a positive way to help yourself and anyone else addicted to these machines but have not recognised their own problem yet. Wish you well. |
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Gambling on these FOBTs clearly isnt for you if you are losing. Find another sport and try to find an edge there.
Very few people can make a profit on these machines. |
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Just been in the Ladbrokes on London Street in Norwich - 3 FOBTs all smashed up
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Songwriters: SCABIES, SENSIBLE, VANIAN, WARD
We've been crying now for much too long And now we're gonna dance to a different song Gonna sream and shout til my dying breath Gonna smash it up til there's nothing left (chorus) Oooh ooh smash it up, smash it up, smash it up Oooh ooh smash it up, smash it up, smash it up People call me villain oh it's such a shame Maybe it's my clothes must be to blame I don't even care if i look a mess Don't wanna be a sucker like all the rest (chorus) Smash it up (x5) Smash it up, you can keep your krishna burgers Smash it up, and your glastonbury hippies Smash it up, you can stick your frothy lager Smash it up, and your blow wave hairstyles (repeat verse 1) (chorus) And everybodys smashing things now I said everybodys smashing things now yeah |
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Had you down as more of a Julio Iglesias type Fen.
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Was a punk back in the day Greys.
 But your right im defo more mellow in middle age  |
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Was a rocker, used to spit on punks, but they always said thanks.
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Once wrote a song it was called "National Service"
Cant rem it . . but do the chorus "national service national service service what a fooking joke"  It never made the top twenty surpriseingly enough |
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I remember 1st time Vegas---landed airport---passengers shoving money in the airport FBOTS before they reach hotel.
  when you bet for ruin(addict)not fun you either hav to totally stop or budget |
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how many shops has he done so far
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The OP has only complained about losing money
...so really he should learn from it that can be replaced It is when a gambling addiction loses you your family, job , house and frequently liberty if you turn to stealing to fund your habit... that is when you have a real problem imo Actually there is nothing wrong with putting money in FOBTs if you can afford to lose it So if all the OP is lost is money take that as a lesson learnt(even if very expensive) is that true Dawsy  |
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If you go in some random shop and smash up everything, the screens, the fobt's whatever some firms forbid the staff from calling the rozzers. FACT.
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Must be a fact--there's so many fobt attacts on you tube without a copper in sight
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It could be deemed a sackable offence, gross misconduct if the staff press the panic button when some nutjob is smashing the shop up.
That's if the shop has a panic button that is, Corals took theirs out. |
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super clue must be the answer
quick and walk away no one knows wear babygrow [hoody] do 1 city a day |
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Staff need protection
I've seen plenty lose the head |
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super clue
no one knows EASY |
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hardestgame
see posts at 22.05 and 22.14 |
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how many shops you do optic ?
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if he did do any he won't be posting on here for about 6 months
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all quiet in norwich then?
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his mum probably grounded him this morning
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any arrests
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Watched a lad in his 20's stick 2 grand in one of these last week in debtfred in N'all - his stupid tart of a girlfriend just sat there and fookin watched eatin a sarnie!
Afer doin his fookin bollox in and including more expetives in one sentence than I've ever heard he fooked off. Immediately leavin the shop the "responsible shop manager" got onto one of his daft fookin mates to gloat that the shop had achieved it's weekly FOBT target cos of this lad - brilliant! |
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I was a shop manager for one of the big bookies, up till 4 weeks ago, when i left after getting attacked for the umpteenth time and the area managers first response was "is the money ok".
Been reading this thread with interest, a lot of the staff are stuck between a rock and a hard place with these fot's, you do have targets and you do get pressurised by area managers to meet them as they are making the majority of the money for the bookies now, and it is the reason for all the new bookies popping up, they have very little interest in horse/dog punters now, its machines and more machines. Regarding the self exclusion, yes the shop teams are meant to ask to leave when you enter, but it will have somewhere on the form(in small letters), that if you re-enter the branch and gamble, you wave all responsibility from the shop for allowing you to do so(basically you can do feck all), and put yourself in this situation you are working in a bookies on minimum wage, single manning in the evening and a self excluded customer comes in, and you try to talk to them to ask them to leave, which leads to a showdown which from my 7 years of shop management usually leads to either verbal abuse or physical abuse from them(as they are embarressed and lash out) would you go out and risk it? Its often easier(not right)to leave them in the shop. And as for being told not to phone police, i have worked for 2 off the biggest bookies, and we were encouraged to do so, if the situation arised for doing so, its just pointless it many instances to do so, a screen can be fixed in under an hour whereas the police can take days to turn up for a smashed screen so whats the point? I have watch many people lose all sense off reality on the machines, and i personally took no pleasure in watching people gambling all their money(another reason why i left) for very little chance of return, the only advice i can give regards them is dont play them, and if you get in deep ask for help, the bookies wont even notice if you smash a screen or 2, they would all be fixed in no time, dont give them the satisfaction. |
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In the meantime, yesterday my mate asked for £100ew on Expose at 14/1 in Corals in Uxbridge.
This threw them into a blind panic, and after a lengthy discussion and a phone call (to head office) presumably he was allowed £25 ew at 14/1 The horse returned the same price and was about 25 at Bfair SP! |
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The counter staff who play use the green gauges roulette system ...
You work for **** all ,,, |
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mokegibboni • September 9, 2012 10:31 AM BST
There was a 'Despatches' TV documentary on a couple of weeks ago on exactly this subject. The conclusion was that FOBTS are ruining peoples lives and there is now pressure on the government to bring in some sort of leglisation to get rid of the machines from the high street. The reason for the recent (last few years) proliferation of high street bookmakers is because of the profits that the companies are making from these machines. In my town here in the centre of the south of England, the number of bookmakers has doubled to 6 shops in the last 5 years or so. It's a small market town (population about 40,000). With loads of various types of shops closing down in the town centre, bookmakers are just about the only ones that are expanding and the reason for this is totally down to these dreadful machines (closely followed by 'virtual racing'). Unfortunately this kind of post shows very little understanding of how government works. The bookmakers have massive lobbying power and of those politicians that presided over the introduction of the gambling bill a few years ago almost all of them had links to the industry. Self interest is paramount. From whom exactly are they under pressure? If fobts were banned they'd be nothing left of the high st bookies. 10,000+ staff would lose their jobs, the income generated in tax reiepts would be lost and most importantly of all many 1-day-a-week promised directorships would never happen for our ministerial and civil service friends. |
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read the MOS, there are a couple of articles in there, one says that the limit of 4 will go up and the bookies openly admit that BILLIONS of pounds are gambled on them every year.
It's their Golden Goose, they don't need horse/greyhound racing anymore |
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Didn't reply sooner ran out of mobile broadband allowance. Didn't smash up any fobts I admit I bottled it not for the reasons of actually doing the smashing but more for the embrassment and hassle for me and family. I went in 2 of my nearest/regular bookmakers about inforcing my self exclusion and been told I won't be able to play as I made it clear how near the end of my tether I am. Yesterday have gone to a local gambling/alcohol help centre and be getting some help there. As I say I know all about fobts and the odds etc but when addiction hits you common sense goes out of the window and thats why lots of people are affected across the UK. You can stop for months but just 1 hour out of 3 months and you are back to square one thats the point thats hard to take. Even when stopped you feel like waiting for the envitable to happen. Anyway lets hope one day bookmakers become bookmakers again, not some mini casino where the horse racing becomes second fiddle to someone rinsing their b**locks on roulette.
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All the best optic.
You will do it . . . Smash a few filthy ew doubles into them. . .It feels great doing what they dont want you to do, instead of just throwing your money in the hole of no return. |
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Revenge---smashing up FBOTS means nothing to bookies-----stop playing hurts them 100x more
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yep...I agree with skint
I wish you all the best optic |
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Rodan - 10th September, 2012
'Unfortunately this kind of post shows very little understanding of how government works. The bookmakers have massive lobbying power and of those politicians that presided over the introduction of the gambling bill a few years ago almost all of them had links to the industry. Self interest is paramount. From whom exactly are they under pressure? If fobts were banned they'd be nothing left of the high st bookies. 10,000+ staff would lose their jobs, the income generated in tax reiepts would be lost and most importantly of all many 1-day-a-week promised directorships would never happen for our ministerial and civil service friends.' I was just quoting what was being said from the TV programme - that's all. Don't blame the messenger! |
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some sense on here,a lot of anger and frustration mixed with shame and of course the smartarse I'm better than you types. Addiction is just that,drink,drugs,gambling they are all horrible addictions for one reason or another. If bookies shut because they won't take a bet if the FOBTs had to go into casino environments only then I don't care. People bleat about no machines then no bookies,I say so what. Of course there will be shops,numbers will be reduced and they will have to trade as betting agents again. No issues here.The machines do cause misery and only hinder proper cash punters.They don't need to open themselves to loss exposure from clued up or challenging punters.Just open the doors,accommodate the coins and tenner punters and let the machines pay the bills and shareholders.Nice living for them at the top. Working in a shop with the single manning and extended hours must be stressful and almost illegal. Pubs legally need doormen and so should many bookies. Only when an employee is killed or perhaps one won't be enough will anything be done to curb the misery.
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You should never ever play these thieving machines.
A group of us went out to various branches of LB, with a set amount of money, and a set staking plan, and a notepad. We collated the data and oddly enough, it isn't random. We ran it through a Uni program that said it can't be. And that is one that works out where an electron should be around an atom...... They are completely fixed, and I would suggest below the odds they adverise |
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Aussieish,you sound very inexperienced re. betting and odds.Collecting data???!!!!There isn't any data to collect,don't waste your time.
Just tell yourself there are 37 numbers paying 35/1 on the winning number ,that is ALL the data you need.Add to that the spins are QUICK. |