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By:
Feck N. Eejit
When: 08 Sep 12 21:24
In a few years time Britain will be polluted with people who feel the same way as optic. The public are being shafted right, left & centre by smug, smirking, skvm bags who don't give a sh1t about anything beyond the number of zeros on the end of their bank balance. Britain is now run along the lines of the Sopranos. It's fine to shaft all and sundry as long as the government get their slice of the action. White collar fraud is the only growth industry in this country. The day cannot be far off when the suicide bombers will be white Europeans.
By:
SkintoYouDaMan
When: 08 Sep 12 21:25
Love

Some area managers have even told there managers too give the self excludeds free spins.Whoops

ladies and gents you are dealing with devilsDevil with no moral fibre.

Scum
By:
optic
When: 08 Sep 12 21:30
Yes.  Self exclusion is the biggest lie going.  Some shops enforce better than others but some don't care as long as their profits look good.  A lot of the staff attitude is if he/she comes back than it is their problem.  Don't know if it is intimidation by certain customers, don't want hassle or pressure from their bosses to keep profits at an expected level.I self excluded because I couldn't stop myself but they don't enforce it.I have even considered moving to a quiet area with no or one bookmaker because my life can't progress with this fobt madness controlling me.
By:
doantwin2easy
When: 08 Sep 12 21:34
Optic. respect to you for admitting your problem on here and ignore those that feel morally superior.

As others have said, smashing them up isn't the answer for a number of reasons. Most importantly, it will effect you and your family. Think about that...your family.

Head office won't bat an eyelid. The guy from Paddy Power didn't even know an armed robbery might have an effect on his staff so a machine getting battered will be water off a ducks back to the people that actually proliferate this sh*t.
By:
optic
When: 08 Sep 12 21:36
Agree feck n eejit.  A lot of people are in my position now and feel powerless to do anything about it.  The culture of take it on the chin and forget about it is the worst people can do.  Remember we are in a double dip will be triple dip recession a lot of it is due to our gambling culture.  The money which should go to hard working businesses is going in the hands of greedy corporate gambling industries.  Each day what passes more people hit the breadline and think winning a £10 a week will keep their neck above the water.  But the floor they stand on is getting deeper.
By:
ebulGery
When: 08 Sep 12 21:40
broadsword

08 Sep 12 20:28

give them another go just before you strike the first blow.....you may hit a lucky streak

Laugh
By:
Feck N. Eejit
When: 08 Sep 12 21:47
The culture of take it on the chin and forget about it is the worst people can do.

Totally agree optic but while the French will maybe take to the streets or blockade the ports the British will probably blame it all on the unemployed or the immigrants. If Mari Antoinette had happened in England her "can't they eat cake" quote would've seen her voted in for another two terms.
By:
ebulGery
When: 08 Sep 12 21:49
One problem is when calling for a ban on FOBTs..
who knows where it will lead?

In the great U.S.A. I understand they have banned internet betting??
I would not want that here

The problem is they are gambling in its 'rawest form'
they are all about the thrill of the gamble, nothing else
also it is the speed people can can lose their money

Sports better is slower
although judging by the number of races shown
it seems bookies will not be satisfied until there is a horse race shown from somewhere
starting every 10 secs...
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 08 Sep 12 21:58
Don't do it optic.

Especially to ingratiate yourself on an anonymous forum.

There is no "free" gambling, and the fact that you are promising to do this on a gambling site is a bad indicator.
If you want to stop, you have to stay away from all gambling sites.
By:
doantwin2easy
When: 08 Sep 12 22:01
FOBTS are no different to being robbed by a Romanian on London Bridge with 3 cups and a dice. They let you win a few times then bang...no skill involved on your part whatsoever.

The thing is, you have to take personal responsibility for your actions. Only when you realise it is you that is the problem and not them will you overcome the addiction. Not preaching at all but that is fact.
By:
DancingBraveTheBest
When: 08 Sep 12 22:03
my mate done 17,000 in fobts before he gave up gambling and has not gambled for years, i never thought i'd see the day when he never had a bet but the fobt's ruined him and completeley soured his appitite for a bet.Sad
By:
pete_de
When: 08 Sep 12 22:05
optic .  Im a founder member of S.G.G
  much easier than smashing them up
  you have gone before they know what has been done
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 08 Sep 12 22:10
You have to be sick to your stomach to stop.
By:
NorwichRob
When: 08 Sep 12 22:10
Sometimes though like today I'd be delighted with a 78% return on investment a la fobt...Wink
By:
optic
When: 08 Sep 12 22:13
sorry what does s.g.g stand for?
By:
pete_de
When: 08 Sep 12 22:14
su...  gl..  gang
By:
saxon farm
When: 08 Sep 12 22:15
unitedbiscuits

Pray, may I ask a beter indicator to the predicament of "optic", excluding GA, Gamcare, Samaritans.
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 08 Sep 12 22:17
Quite bitter then, pete_de?
By:
GandalfTheGrey
When: 08 Sep 12 22:17
Has everybody excluded themselves from the various "casino" sections on here that fleece people, only takes a minute.
By:
pete_de
When: 08 Sep 12 22:18
Oh yes
By:
pete_de
When: 08 Sep 12 22:19
that Oh yes was for  U.B.
By:
Bruce Willis
When: 08 Sep 12 22:21
The number for gambling problems is at the bottom of this page, do yourself a favour and give it a ring tomorrow instead of smashing some glass and plastic
By:
ebulGery
When: 08 Sep 12 22:27
I know someone who bought a program for his laptop
that prevented him accessing all gambling sites..

it worked fine until the next morning
...then he went out and bought a new laptopSad
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 08 Sep 12 22:30
saxon - It's ironic, but I had a thread in my own mind about how cr*p gambling is - following Duntle's demotion today - and it helps to let off a bit of steam on the forum but that's rather different from what optic is threatening.

Gambling only compensates for an absence in our lives, and that is what we have to address, even those who are up overall.

Don't let it make you sink to the understanding of an animal.
Just stop.
By:
saxon farm
When: 08 Sep 12 23:00
unitedbiscuits

A good post, but I take issue with the middle paragraph.

Nearly every transaction in life is a gamble, whether it be investing in real estate or down to the price of a bag of sugar. How you deal with it when it goes Pete Tong, is up to you. Either way, it has no resemblance to an absence in a life.

Regarding your final paragraph, in your heart of hearts do you really think it is as simplistic as that, to just stop?
By:
ebulGery
When: 08 Sep 12 23:06
If the op idea of smashing all the fobt's in his local bookie is to be effective
then I should warn him there are probably circa 10,000 betting shops in the U.K...I think?
so he is in for a  busy day tomorrow

apologiesBlush..it is not a joking matter
the op need help
if he is unable to limit his gambling to what he can afford to lose
he must stop gambling altogether
HE MUST NEVER EVER ENTER ANOTHER BETTING SHOP
..starting now!

He must find help
it really is not worth a prison sentence
By:
ebulGery
When: 08 Sep 12 23:08
agree Saxon
...it will the hardest thing he has ever done
that is what being an addict means
but he must do it
By:
Clarky9
When: 08 Sep 12 23:13
He likes playing them?

Let him get on with it I say... Keeping all the betting shops profitable, helps people like me get a decent bet on in shops, as all my internet/phone accounts are closed...
By:
dr . atkins
When: 08 Sep 12 23:21
was told today a men went mad in a hills in stepney green east london done the four fobts and then tried to put the glass in at the counter aswel Shocked
By:
Glasgow Brian
When: 08 Sep 12 23:41
well i must admit

every time i see these lunatics on  roulette machines i laugh my fykin head  cos they give the fallacy of " gambling a mugs game " more power .

i fykin love winning holidays off these cretins LaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
ebulGery
When: 08 Sep 12 23:45
I was thinking that clarky9

Darwins laws of evolution are in full working order here

For someone to win, someone else must lose

Bookies are only the intermediaries(for a price of course)

but I am afraid losing is part of lifeSad
and I would like other people to lose to meBlush
...however I would have sympathy for  an addict
because it destroys their lives
I would not want to do that to anyone
well unless I have toBlush
By:
ebulGery
When: 08 Sep 12 23:46
I was thinking that clarky9

Darwins laws of evolution are in full working order here

For someone to win, someone else must lose

Bookies are only the intermediaries(for a price of course)

but I am afraid losing is part of lifeSad
and I would like other people to lose to meBlush
...however I would have sympathy for  an addict
because it destroys their lives
I would not want to do that to anyone
well unless I have toBlush
By:
ebulGery
When: 08 Sep 12 23:48
oh dear Brian..oh dear
Laugh
By:
crystalhunt
When: 09 Sep 12 00:56
Optic - you don't seem to have any faith in the normal helping agencies G A, GamCare etc and you seem unable to stop yourself from going into betting shops. Getting yourself locked up seems like a good option given the circumstances. At least you wont be able to go on any machines during the time you are away and it might give you a chance to get it out of your system and sort your head out.

The life you appear to be leading is like a form of prison in itself so you may as well go somewhere where you can't play on machines.

Sounds daft doesn't it but that's the reality of your situation.

Given how badly you have been affected by all of this and how strongly you feel, why don't you throw yourself into campaigning against the spread of this evil, contact the tonight program, start a blog, write to the newspapers and your local MP'S. You'll be surprised by how many people would support you. That way you would gain some strength to resist your addiction.

Just one other suggestion - tell everyone close to you what's been going on and tell them you want their support to help you stop.

Good luck mate.
By:
Glasgow Brian
When: 09 Sep 12 01:51
I feel no sorrow for  bag head's , roulette addicts , coke heads , skunk addicts or even sex addicts or fraudsters .LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
Big Boss
When: 09 Sep 12 01:53
when you watch the wonky nosed manc presenting a trophy on C4 at Haydock in all his finery and fake smiles all to inflate his over sized ego you know that your FOBT money is going to a good cause Laugh

and your Gary Wiltshire's and Big Mac's of this world all boarding the gravy train, it makes you sick to the pit of your stomach, if there is any potent reminder not to give these THIEVES your hard earned then this is it
By:
Glasgow Brian
When: 09 Sep 12 01:57
I love seeing groups of people on the machines explaining what numbers coming out next Cry
By:
Glasgow Brian
When: 09 Sep 12 01:57
I love seeing groups of people on the machines explaining what numbers coming out next Cry
By:
Glasgow Brian
When: 09 Sep 12 01:57
I love seeing groups of people on the machines explaining what numbers coming out next Cry
By:
Big Boss
When: 09 Sep 12 01:59
GB, you never see them explaining a RNG (Random Number Generator)
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