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I am tomorrow going to the bookies to smash fobts
I am tomorrow going to the bookies to smash fobts
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Ive lost shitloads on these and it kills me to think how much.
Problem is, I dont gamble on them all too much... If i have a couple of quid, ill throw it in. You add up all those couple of quids, those odd fivers or tenners. Then you add up a small fortune. They really need to be made illegal cos theyre destroying the country and polluting the betting industry totally. How would the betting industry deal with losing these FOBTs... Not well. I have a suspicion that new betting shops are opening, just to facilitate these FOBTS. In my town, I have seen at least 4 new shops open. Why such a boom in bookies opening? Because the FOBTs are probably paying for everything plus some profit just on the shop. Its horrible to think how (probably) the bookies are now entirely reliant on these because they make up such a huge amount of profits for the company. If FOBTs go, profits go, investor confidence in the bookies goes and shops start to close. Yesterday I was in huddersfield. Saw a young lad, he had piped in hundreds of quid. He had a school bag on so I think he was at college... He shouts... Ive ****g lost 330 quid. He was trying to hold back the tears. He kept going out to withdraw, til it was gone. He shouted... Ive got ****g 10 quid to last me the week. 10 quid. I felt like giving him a tenner... But I knew where it wouldve gone. He kept going on them and couldnt stop. I was witnessing an addiction in front of me. One that a lot of people have. These machines have to go and im writing to my MP and to the PM and the BBC. |
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Optic, do you really think smashing the machines will help, they will replace them the next day. I assume you have a job, once you get banged up as you expect what are your chances of getting a job when you get out. The answer is simple believe me , don't go into a betting shop. I got to the stage where i was betting £30 a race be it dogs or horses and going in every day, some days i would win most days i would not.I got my Betfair account and now i never go near a betting shop, if i have a £5 on a horse now it is a big bet. Iam a strictly a £2 e/w merchant and i enjoy the racing a whole lot more, i know i won't get rich but i also won't go skint. When i left the house to go shopping i only brought enough money to buy what i needed or paid by my Cash Card, that way i couldn't nip into the bookies for a bet.
I am not b ull**** you but you will be suprised how quickly you can forget about betting and move on. I don't know your situation but i used to mainly bet on Saturday when i am not at work and spend the day in the bookies or on Betfair. I would be up at 7am to get the Racing Post ( i don't go to bed until 4am) spend hours studying form and then spend the day and evening watching racing on my Laptop ( i had ATR and RUK for £30 a month ). I now put my bets on overnight ( some weekends i lose £10 )get up at 1pm and go out and return for the football results. My last bet on the horses was £2 e/w on Thought Worthy in the Derby. Optic you need to beat your problem otherwise when you have done your time you will go straight back to it. Prison is the answer to some problems, but not FOBT. You need to think about what makes you want to use them, when you are at your weakest and end up going in the Bookies. My problem with the Bookies was when i got paid ( i am paid monthly have been for 20 years) looks like a lot of cash at the start of the month, but it soon dwindles. Another one of my saviours was 24 hour shopping, i now shop when i finish work at 1am , there are no bookies open and i can't waste my money on quick bets. I still follow racing and take part in the Chit Chat Placepot competion but i don't feel the need to have a bet in each race. Smashing the machines is like an alcoholic breaking the windows in a pub, it won't stop him being an alcoholic. The same brain that stops you being a drug addict, or an alcoholic or a murderer should be able to help you beat this addiction, think about what puts you in the situation and do something that takes you away from that situation. Good Luck. |
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What a load of ****. Really? It isn't gambling that you are addicted to, it is feeling sorry for yourself, and thrill of feeling alive. The kind you can only feel when you don't know how you can afford to live until tomorrow.
Either that, or you aren't intelligent enough to survive anyway. Evolution weeds people like you out, and this is one way of it happening. The other thing here (only read the first half of posts before I got over all the bullshit) is that it appears not only are you too stupid to realise you lose 5+% each time you put a bet on, but stupid enough to think the only way to improve your life is by going to jail? If you have excluded yourself from these establishments, and they still let you in, then take them to court and sue them dafty. |
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BJT.... A caring soul if ever there was one
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BJT 09 Sep 12 05:14 Joined: 30 Oct 04 | Topic/replies: 3,575 | Blogger: BJT's blog
Either that, or you aren't intelligent enough to survive anyway. Evolution weeds people like you out, and this is one way of it happening. Obviously not, you slipped through the net A-Hole. |
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BJT
 Morning Gandalf unreal some of them on here.  |
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BJT...you Sir,are a pr1ck
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Smash the coffee machines as well please, disgusting warmed up soil water.
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Well said BJT.
Survival of the fittest... |
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fobt's are the crack cocaine of the high street, thankfully i've never got into them but i know a lot of people who's lives have been affected by these wretched machines. Optic, if you read this take the advice of Paddy Hair. G/l and get help, dont let these machines cause you any more pain and suffering.
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If they are the crack are yankee bets mariwana is a heinz an "e" whats the equivalent of sniffing a bag of glue?
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Clarky. . . Minus9
 We are humans fella we have evolved from the jungle. These **** bookies prey on the weak and vunrable and do not like getting a smack back from the bigger boys hence bleating "tradeing decesion" "s/p only" and any other bollocks they can think up of not to take a bet . . . That sits ok with you does it Tarzan?? |
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What next, armies of fat people smashing up McDonalds windows?
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interesting that bookies are often called thieves on this forum, the people that they "steal" money from freely donate it to them.
If people are losing more than they can afford, how did they survive, and why aren't they living on the streets? |
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Im inn
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used to work in a bookies,seen people do their rent money and cry,it is heartbreaking but your have a choice play or not play,i also had a addiction to these machines but did beat in the end,people dont seem to understand the maths involved in roulette the more numbers you back the less odds you are getting so when they back 20 numbers for 5 spins and lose they wanna scream
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yes i can its plastered all over the net,systems go for a pound upto 500 quid or more saying you can win a fortune,the odds are simple you get 35/1 for a single number and there are 37 numbers on the board,doesnt take a genius to work out you are gonna lose in the long run,if you have to play do blackjack far less risky
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people pay for roulette systems?
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Yup afraid sew.
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that MARTIN GALE has made a fortune from Roulette systems
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SkintoYouDaMan • September 9, 2012 9:27 AM BST
Yup afraid sew. the mind boggles  |
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has he done any shops yet ?
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There was a 'Despatches' TV documentary on a couple of weeks ago on exactly this subject. The conclusion was that FOBTS are ruining peoples lives and there is now pressure on the government to bring in some sort of leglisation to get rid of the machines from the high street. The reason for the recent (last few years) proliferation of high street bookmakers is because of the profits that the companies are making from these machines. In my town here in the centre of the south of England, the number of bookmakers has doubled to 6 shops in the last 5 years or so. It's a small market town (population about 40,000). With loads of various types of shops closing down in the town centre, bookmakers are just about the only ones that are expanding and the reason for this is totally down to these dreadful machines (closely followed by 'virtual racing').
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if you want to get rid of them get a 16 or 17 year old who looks older play the machines then call the police nothing will happen to the 16 or 17 year olds but the bookmaker could lose his license
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mad.dog, been done a national newspaper (I think) done it recently and Anaglogs Daughter put the article up on here about it, as far as I can remember the results are currently being investigated. AD if you read this, any update on this?
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mokegibboni • September 9, 2012 10:31 AM BST
There was a 'Despatches' TV documentary on a couple of weeks ago on exactly this subject. The conclusion was that FOBTS are ruining peoples lives and there is now pressure on the government to bring in some sort of leglisation to get rid of the machines from the high street. The reason for the recent (last few years) proliferation of high street bookmakers is because of the profits that the companies are making from these machines. In my town here in the centre of the south of England, the number of bookmakers has doubled to 6 shops in the last 5 years or so. It's a small market town (population about 40,000). With loads of various types of shops closing down in the town centre, bookmakers are just about the only ones that are expanding and the reason for this is totally down to these dreadful machines (closely followed by 'virtual racing'). Yeah....the have introduced a tax on the profits so they get their slice of the action. rancid b@stards |
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saxon - Sorry for the delay. Yes, I do think the OP should stop gambling. It's making him sick and probably making others unhappy too. When you reach the state where if you don't bet, you miss a winner, but when you do bet, it loses, there's only one thing you can do logically and that is stop.
Blaming society or exclusion loop-holes are just excuses, and smashing up machines would be distressing to the staff, too. |
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perhaps all the machines are conspiring together and theyre gonna take over the world after theyve done their weekly shop in tesco
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i saw a counterhand at my local whills come from around the counter side to start playing the machines. !!!
anyone else seen this...i couldnt believe it when i first saw it. |
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optic started by saying "Iknow it is PARTLY my fault".Wrong optic,it is ALL your fault.Sorry to hear you have lost it all,but remember you made the choice,and you must make the choice to stop.Only you can make that choice.
I understand addiction as I had a girlfriend that died from heroin.She didn't blame the pushers,she knew her life was in her hands. Should every alcoholic smash every pub,supermarket,booze shop for selling alcohol?Of course not. There always have been,and always will be ways of self harming,but passing the buck is wrong,it is down to the individual.There always have been,and always will be weak-willed folk,that is life,but blaming others for being weak-willed is failig to recognise yourself. Some people can self control,others can't, and therefore need outside help,but opportunities to self-harm will never cease. |
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Why do people on here get so angry about FOBTS
is it because the shops always win perhaps would the protesters like the shops to tell the fella who's just done a grand on the horses to go away and not lose anymore money for every winner there's a loser get over it open a shop and stack it with FOBTS if you want to be a winner imo |
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KV . . IF ONLY IT WAS THAT EASY.
ANY IDEA HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO OPEN A SHOP?? BIT SURPRISED READING A POST LIKE THAT FROM YOU TO BE HONEST. |
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Got no problem with the rancid outfits avin them.
But a they should be made to lay a bet not hide behind a false front "bookmaker" and b. stop preying on the vunrable. |
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Skinto they are separate issues.Bookmakers are run by accountants these days,and take a totally different approach to the game unfortunately for the punter.Things have changed,and not for the better.We are in the days of customers being monitored closely.
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Odds on card
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best post on here from unbiased, so true
optic started by saying "Iknow it is PARTLY my fault".Wrong optic,it is ALL your fault.Sorry to hear you have lost it all,but remember you made the choice,and you must make the choice to stop.Only you can make that choice. I understand addiction as I had a girlfriend that died from heroin.She didn't blame the pushers,she knew her life was in her hands. Should every alcoholic smash every pub,supermarket,booze shop for selling alcohol?Of course not. There always have been,and always will be ways of self harming,but passing the buck is wrong,it is down to the individual.There always have been,and always will be weak-willed folk,that is life,but blaming others for being weak-willed is failig to recognise yourself. Some people can self control,others can't, and therefore need outside help,but opportunities to self-harm will never cease. |
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optic 08 Sep 12 20:54 Joined: 10 Apr 12 | Topic/replies: 83 | Blogger: optic's blog
Definitely no simpleton. Take a google search on fobt addiction it can affect anyone even a university professor got time for theft due to fobt addiction. I agree they are programmed to make you lose everyone knows but as I say common sense goes out of the window. I don't know your gambling preferences but the nearest I can give you as an example is imagine a Saturday afternoon 5 2nd's on the trot and then you lose 2 football games due to last minute goals. Then you go on 'tilt'. The going on 'tilt' is what an fobt addict is when they first put their first £20 in to play. That is the key optic, the first £20 or the first note you put in the machine not the 2nd,3rd or 4rth. The damage is done as soon as you play for the first time.So like said above you have to fill that void that stops you wanting to play at all. Maybe joining a gym,taking up golf or just anything that gives you something else to do.Try and remember though its the 1st one that does the damage.If you feel yourself going to stick a note in one of they machines just think where it has took your life and take 10 seconds to convince yourself to do something else instead.Once you fill that void the addiction and want to play them will become less and less until you're free from wanting to play them again. All the best |
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Yes seen that regularly Glasgow...must be breaking all manner of compliance rules let alone potentially fraudulent!
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simple way for any gambling addict is to BUDGET.
If you earn £2,000 a month and have to pay a mortgage/rent and shopping etc. work out how much you have left to risk. Only danger is that if people are betting small they get no kick out of it, although in reality most people are living beyond their means at present so don't have any spare money to gamble with. The problem is people want to live a champagne lifestyle on beer money. |