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SKY GIPSY - Skymaster - Tudor Mystery (King of the Tudors
1965 - 2-yr-old - Ran 14 times - WON 10 times Made début on opening day of the season - when 8th in West Riding Stakes at Doncaster, ridden by Breasley WON next SEVEN consecutive races.... ALL before Epsom Derby meeting... all ridden by Ron Hutchinson won at odds of - 9/4 2ndfav-10/1-11/10-4/7-walk-over-1/8-5/6 Was then caught close home, and beaten a head, at Epsom on Derby day - by Kibenka (who went on to win the following year's Free Handicap) - in the race before SEA BIRD II's Derby Then WON the WINDSOR CASTLE at Royal Ascot, at 8/1, by 3 lengths Followed by a success in the JULY STAKES at Newmarket - by a neck and 3 lengths from Tin King and Kibenka - at 11/8 Fav Then WON 3-runner RICHMOND STAKES at Goodwood - by a short-head from Marandis. Startecd at 3/1 2nd fav - with the Paddy7 Prendergast trained 4/11 Fav Young Emperor, who had won the Coventry, and ridden by Lester Piggott - LEFT at the start  - eventually cantering home in it's own time..... Cue Betfair Forum EXPLOSION - had it been in existence!Sky Gipsy was then beaten in two further races, both on UNSUITABLY SOFT ground. Without checking further, elsewhere - I think he was sold to race in America - as was the trait in those days. |
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Sky Gipsy doesn't appear in the 1966 Raceform....must have been sold overseas as you suggest.
[ This image is no longer available. ] RON HUTCHINSON was among a clutch of Australians, including Scobie Breasley, Bill Williamson and George Moore, that were a regular sight on these shores in the 50's, 60's and 70's. The `Bobber', as he was nicknamed by British punters for his style in the saddle, rode for nearly 20 years in the UK after arriving from Paddy Prendergast's Irish yard in the mid-1960's. But it was on a horse called Busybody at Victoria in 1943 while just a second year apprentice, that Hutchinson opened his account. Before he was installed as stable jockey to John Dunlop, he had developed a deadly partnership with Prendergast and he rode Martial to victory for the champion trainer in the 1960 2000 Guineas. Other big-race wins they enjoyed were the same year's Coventry Stakes with Typhoon, Display in the 1961 National and Cheveley Park Stakes, Floribunda in the Nunthorpe Stakes and Clear Sound in the Champagne Stakes. When he parted company with Prendergast, Hutchinson also rode for Jack Jarvis and Harry Wragg, who provided him with further Classic success in 1969 with Full Dress II in the 1000 Guineas and Intermezzo in the St Leger. But he was destined never to win the Derby. He was jocked off 1966 Epsom hero Charlottown by his great friend Scobie Breasley and he had left Dunlop for the Far East when the Arundel yard landed the 1978 race with Shirley Heights, a colt he rode as a two-year- old in the preceding campaign. He recalled: "I knew he was a decent colt but he was never very sound and I wasn't sure he would stand training as three-year-old." As it was it was Greville Starkey who partnered the son of Mill Reef to his Derby double at Epsom and The Curragh. Hutchinson was also associated with New Zealand-bred stayer Balmerino and he landed the 1970 Ayr Gold Cup for Dunlop on Sandy Struthers' 10- 1 chance John Splendid. It's testiment to Hutchinson that Dunlop has never employed a stable jockey since he left and, due to a troublesome hip joint, his career only lasted a couple of more years in Singapore. |
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I liked Hutchie I am sure i remember him winning me a lot of dosh on a sprinter called March Spray seems like a million years ago now funny how things stick in the mind.
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Onlooker and Tambourine Man - Many thanks for the info on Sky Gipsy. There is actually a press photo of him for sale on Ebay!! and he looks as "flashy" as I remember.
Always had a thing about chestnuts with lots of white about them. Seem to remember an irish horse with four "above the knee" stockings - Candy Cane??. Read somewhere that generally flashy chestnuts dont make particularly good racehorses - Not sure if this is true??. Got a picture of Hyperion in my study and didnt seem to do him any harm. Grundy etc. |
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Pretty sure i remember a flashy chestnut called Tallahasse with 4 white socks trained by Atty Corbett and it was quite useful.
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Oops - Thanks also to Cork Langer.
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cork langer,
some lovely memories in those names. Harry Ballantine was a name I omitted when listing Ted Smyth's apprentices earlier in the thread. Joe Blanks died in a fall at Brighton I think they still stage a Memorial ace for him. Richard Marshall had a really bad fall and retired. I met him about 8 years ago, he was working at the museum in Newmarket, and we had a good chat. |
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TALAHASSE - Rustam - out of a Tudor Minstrel mare
Unbeaten in 5 outings as a 2-yr-old in 1963. Won on début at Ascot - then followed up at the Ascot Heath meeting on the Saturday and the end of Royal Ascot. The Royal meeting was Tuesday to Friday in those days. Ended up winning the Gimcrack - 11/8 Fav under Piggott - and the Doncaster Champagne Stakes, under Breasley. |
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Onlooker thanks for that brings back good day's for lots of different reasons.
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Ron Hyatt. Won me a veritable fortune on a plodder over the sticks. Terry Rogers was the horse! 25/1 WITH A LUMP ON!
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The card for Yarmouth races on the 14th June 1978
Jockeys riding include… Dean McKeown (5), Peter Madden, Tony Kimberley, Jock Ferguson, Philip Robinson (7), Sean Salmon, Eric Eldin, Richard Marshall, Michael Kettle, Colin Williams, and Alan Bond. |
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Oliver Gray,remember him winning the opening race of the season on a horse called Monkey nut-"The Crown plus two Apprentice Race",where it allowed an Apprentice to lead the Jockey Championship for at least one race
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Why can't we return to the way the old flat and jump seasons were organised....first race of the season the apprentice race at donny, then the brocklesbury,flat season ends on november h'cap day..4 months off. jumps run from 1st Aug until end of may..2 months off.
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Remember the first jumps racing of the season on the ITV 7 was a meeting at Fakenham in sept, they use to show 3 hurdle races,
i remember a jockey called Sandy May riding a horse called croome to victory.. |
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Money/turnover Dambuster, the big bookies now have a major say in the fixture list/programe
book, as they do in almost every facet of the racing industry. |
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Talahasse didn't really train on but beat a useful handicapper called Zaleucus in what would now be a listed race at Windor ( I think ) as a 3-y-o. Almost cerain he died soon after. Not in a race.
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Too much racing period Dambuster...it dilutes the quality and the memories.
Here is my Fav. jockey when I was a kid...with Lester. He also tarained Sleeping Partner to win the Oaks @ 25/1.....the day I got married. [ This image is no longer available. ] |
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What a pair jodhpurs they are, every time I see a picture of
Lester, he always appears to have an aura about him, he never appears self conscious, just seems totally confident. The man was genius in the saddle |
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Here's David East who I think rode those Persian named horses for John Meacock...Vakyl Ul Mulk etal.
[ This image is no longer available. ] And the late great Steve Perks  |
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I was in a box at Newmarket a couple of years ago, when Neil Wilkins walked in with Piggott,he was tanned and had sunglasses on,if you'd never been racing before or never knew who he was ,you'd have known he was someone special,he just had this aura about him as motley rightly says, i walked over and said ''can i have your autograph please GOD'', He smiled and signed my racecard, i asked him who he fancied that day, and he gave me an 11-10 loser.I asked him if he still rode out for his son in law, he said he hadn't for quite a while..Didn't matter about the loser he gave me though, i'd spoken to a legendary genius..all i need to do now is meet The only other God of racing, Sir H.Cecil.
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Same here Dam, I already posted before, I led him up on one
long time ago, I was only a kid, it was always keen this thing, no mouth on it, he said something like, "what's this like" I mumbled back he takes a good grip. I let go of it's head they cantered down, he was just stood on top of it's back, never seem balance like it, it went down to post on a long rein, like old sheep. |
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He was amazing, he ruled for longer than any other sportsman in history, i was at Folkestone about 20 years ago when he rode a horse called Snow Blizzard for Simon Dow (i think), it had won there a few weeks earlier and had gone up quite a bit in the h'cap i had a good bet on it, 3-1 into about 15-8, piggott went out in front he was 5 lengths clear after a furlong, kept looking between his legs all the way, quickening and slowing the pace but maintaining his 5 length lead, he won hard held by...5 lengths..a remarkable ride, not seen by many at a small track..as good as any i'd seen
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K Temple Nidd was my mates fav jock because of his name rode a number of big price winners had some sort of asthmatic condition and had to give up riding i believe.
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For Dod...
[ This image is no longer available. ] Think this was in the RP about 10 years ago so he's getting on a bit now...if he's still around. Age: 66 Then: Flat-race jockey 1952 to 1972 Now: Retired High: Riding Ruby's Princess, on whom he was third in the 1965 Oaks Low: Hopes of a comeback being ruined by serious injury You could forgive Keith Temple-Nidd if he was somewhat wary about talking to members of the fourth estate. He did that once before. "In the winter of 1974 the racing man from the News of the World rang up, saying he wanted to talk about racing generally, and he asked me if I had pulled any horses," Temple-Nidd says. "So I said, `Well, if you are talking about fat horses, or horses who are not fit, I've pulled hundreds'. "And what happens? That weekend in the News of the World there was the headline `Temple-Nidd pulled hundreds!' It was right out of context." Out of context it may have been, but that did not stop the repercussions. "I lost my job with Bruce Hobbs because the owners wouldn't put me up-it wasn't Bruce Hobbs himself. When I applied for my licence the following February, the Jockey Club turned me down." Temple-Nidd continued to ride out in Newmarket, where he had once been apprenticed to **** Perryman. However, disaster soon struck. He recalls: "I was riding out for Peter Robinson on a filly who reared up and rolled on me. I broke my right arm and two ribs. "They thought I had damaged my kidneys because I had a hole in my left side and something was hanging out of it. I was in a mess. "It took me five years to recover, and then the insurance would not pay. As I had been refused a licence they did not classify me as a jockey, so I missed out on a technicality. I thought it was all wrong and I was very bitter about it. "The man who owned the filly never rang me. He didn't even send me a postcard when I was in hospital. My livelihood had been taken away, and it probably cost me about pounds 100,000, all on a technicality." Temple-Nidd adds: "When I got better I rode out for Michael Jarvis for a while, and then I went on to Paul Kelleway as assistant trainer. "I rode out for him, and took Madam Gay to the US in 1981 when she was one of two British runners in the first Arlington Million and finished third to John Henry. She was a bit of a madam, but I got on with her and I always rode her work. "I still keep in contact with the Kelleways, and I went out to stay with Gillian [Paul's widow] in Spain last year, but my ambition was always to be involved in building. "I bought a plot of land behind Bruce Hobbs in Saxon Street in Newmarket and built a beautiful cottage, but then as soon as I had finished the house I developed prostate cancer. "The first operation was not successful, but then one of the top doctors said I had a one-in-three chance of being cured. He did the operation and put me back on the road. Now I've got to have a hip replacement." You could forgive Temple-Nidd if he felt that racing had not done him many favours, but he looks back on the good days with pleasure and still follows the sport keenly. He adds: "I was a jockey for 20 years, being apprenticed in 1952. I was maybe a bit of a `job' jockey, and I reckon I rode about 200 winners. The highlight of it all was riding Ruby's Princess, who was third to Long Look in the 1965 Oaks. She was an outstanding filly and the best I rode." Temple-Nidd still goes racing on occasion. "I took my two daughters to Ascot once, and I go to Newmarket sometimes. But I watch regularly on television." The way in which he was treated over the newspaper article still hurts, but Temple-Nidd manages to take a positive view of things. "It is quite something to still be here when you have been told that you have only a one-in-three chance of surviving." Keith Temple-Nidd: positive outlook after beating cancer |
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Should have put the names on the last post.
Thats David East with Keith Temple-Nidd on the right. |
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tambourineman , sorry but i cant get those pictures to display ..help required try not to be to technical please ...thanks...on google croome
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I'm in Chrome so I'm thinking you're in Community Classic Mode where pics don't show.
If so, go top left of page where it says Switch to new Community...click on that and Return to the thread. If that doesn't work you might have to ask on here. |
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Are you using the CLASSIC style for the Forum, workrider?
If so - you need to switch to the NEW Forum - and the Pictures automatically display If you do not do that - then you need to Cut & Paste all Tambo's LINKS into a new Window ... BUT ... When you paste them into the Address Bar of a NEW Browser/Window - you have to leave OFF the img} at the beginning and end of the LINK {img ... otherwise the pictures will NOT display. |
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this was years ago, went to Ascot races one day with girlfriend at the time and it was her birthday, afterwards when we were leaving Lester Piggott walked past, and my g/f went over and asked him to sign her racecard and told him it was her birthday, he mumbled something and signed it, then Geoff Lewis went past and said, "Your getting soft Lester."
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Nice one TD
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as luck would have it , my young lad just arrived and showed me how its done so alls well..some smashing photos tambourineman ...thanks onlooker....
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TambourineMan - I think a few of your photo's are coming from "Copes". Do you have a complete set? If so, was 1962 the last do you know? and what was the first? My earliest is 1948 (with a blue cover!) but I think there were a couple of issues pre-war. Cracking thread this!!
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just looking at the 3 aussies riding in ireland , a poor picture but i'd hazard a guess the track was pheonix park ..anyone confirm that...
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Just looking at a Folkestone racecard from 17 Aug 1971,
winners were Danceaway bay,R.Edmondson Spy Net ,B.Jago Scott Lancer,T.Maker Crepona ,R.Still Pub Crawl,P.Tulk Royal Sherry ,J.Gorton. Other jocks include,D.Mckay,G.baxter,M.Kettle,P.Cook,R.Marshall, M.L.Thomas,All household names at the time, great memories,use to go with My mum,dad,aunts uncles cousins,all in the middle of the course where a man use to sell jockey caps of all colours,got one every time i went..use to be lots of bookies in the middle, i remember The daily double which they use to do.. |
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brilliant days jockey wise dambuster , i remember most of those although not familiar with t. maker ? the rest i'm fine with.....
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Always M L Thomas or Taffy Thomas. Probably because no-one except his mum could spell Myrddin!
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Blackbarn...Had some saved from a Copes but its amazing sometimes what pops up in Google Images.
Try the apprentice blogspot website ....they have most of the ones I've posted here. I thought it was a good idea to put the pics here so we have a sort of permanent hoofprint if you know what i mean. |
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dambuster - I'm fairly sure I was there that day. I can remember Danceaway Bay winning the first, though not the other winners. Did Jacthelot run on that card? - would have been a staying trip, probably with Brian Jago up for Bruce Hobbs. I can remember backing him either on that day or a similar card at Folkestone. Finished 3rd I think.
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Hi guys,
Just back to earlier post Steve Eccles rode a few winners on Kithairon owned by Tom Umpleby. |
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themightymac, i have heard of Robert Edmomson and Richard Quinn, but who is Mark Malham and David Dinely
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