L Carrod trained for 17 years between 1963 and 1980. He trained both flat and NH horses,  one of his rare winners coming in a steeplechase at Wolverhampton in April 1964 (Honiton, ridden by R. Vibert). He used scores of  jockeys – D.Ward, A.Biddlecombe, J.Morrisey and even his own son L.Carrod (7) and very rarey used the same jockey twice.

L. Carrod's first runner July 30th 1963 Birmingham

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L.Carrod's last runner May 10th 1980 Bath

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WHIT
That is amazing that you could come up with all that on Carrod.
Do you know if he was still training near Skipton towards the end or had he moved?

I remember seeing the dam (Bleu Azur) run, at Lewes I think.

She won the 1000 Guineas at 25/1. Lewis rode her stable companion Magic Flute.

She had been 2nd in the Dred darling, having won her only race at 2 (a back end maiden at Lingfield).


I backed Royal Saint when she won at Brighton (10/11 I think!) with Piggott riding - in the Hue-Williams colours. Probably had 2/6 on it.

Hi, ged - Could you kindly post that Herald Archive link, again, please.

For some reason, I cannot find it in my Bookmarks - which completely  baffles me.

Thanks.

Hi onlooker.

Below is one that will take you to May 1, 1971 (a famous day). As I said before, the set of papers is incomplete (eg April 1971 is completely missing, so you can't see Altesse Royale's guineas card). And the amount of racing coverage is variable over the years - presumably depending on editor's tastes (or religion?). So sometimes you get the full day's cards, sometimes just the Scottish meeting (even when there's a big meeting on in the South), and sometimes nothing at all - but you do get the Shinty results!

http://news.google.co.uk/newspapers?nid=GGgVawPscysC&dat=19710501&printsec=frontpage&hl=en

You can zoom in.

Just a couple of links on Altesse Royale.....


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Ged, the link to Glasgow Herald is most interesting. Are any more links available ?

One interesting snippet (to me anyway) that I came across from looking at the Herald cards was that My Swallow was down to make his racecourse debut in the Newmarket maiden that Fireside Chat won (It was the day of Nijinsky's Guineas), but was withdrawn after the jockey (Bill Williamson) weighed out. I doubt the formbokk makes mention of it (onlooker might correct me if it does). I wondered if he would have been sharp enough to cope with the winner that day. If not, he would not have been the unbeaten colt that turned up in the Guineas a year later - Herald headline "My Swallow to remain unbeaten". Fireside Chat went off 6-5 fav on his debut in a 27-runner field, slowly away, winning by 4 and 3.

For those that like to see history in the making, here is a link to the Herald containing the cards (p6) on the day of Tudor Minstrel's 2000 guineas. 'White And Gold' gives his reasons for preferring Petition to Tudor Minstrel. On the same day, there is a card from Ayr, the jockeys including H Blackshaw. (Joe Sime rides 2 on the card at Newmarket - one for 'Metcalfe' and one for 'Watts'). The Ayr card includes one runner from Noel Murless (the fav in the last, ridden by Billy Nevett) - was he training in Yorkshire at the time? - and a horse owned by the Maharajah of Baroda, whose trainer is listed as 'private'.

http://news.google.co.uk/newspapers?nid=GGgVawPscysC&dat=19470430&printsec=frontpage&hl=en


..and below is the link to the following day's paper, describing how Tudor Minstrel simply 'walked away from them'. (p6 again)

http://news.google.co.uk/newspapers?nid=GGgVawPscysC&dat=19470501&printsec=frontpage&hl=en

..and down the bottom of the page you can read that Billy Nevett rode 4 winners on that Ayr card, to go with his 4 at the previous day of the Ayr meeting, giving him 8 from 11 (all 8 winners were fav!).

It should be remembered that Fireside was giving Mill Reef weight (7lb I think), and Geoff Lewis was reprimanded by the stewards for crossing to the rail too quickly - neither of which is to say that Mill Reef wasn't a good winner on the day.

I'm not sure Fireside won again as a 2yo. He was 2nd in the Norfolk to Mummys Pet; and won a couple of European pattern sprints at 3.

Ribero, Nunns first shop in Darlington was above the Corporation bus premises where the drivers and conductors would clock on and off so he had a ready made clientelle, especially on pay day. Nunns would always lay a decent bet and the majority of the town's independents would lay off with him.

Getting back to Freddy Maxwell's Cawstons Pride, I remember her first race, a Newbury maiden early season, hock deep in mud, well backed at long odds, and won by a bus ride, Brian Taylor rings a bell.

Cawston's Pride won the first on Greenham day (and Scottish National day), at 100-6. I think Brian Taylor rode her in all her races. I remember seeing that race too. She came up the stand rail a long way clear - won 10 lengths I think. The going was very soft - might even have been Heavy. She won races on Firm too - just as easily.

Other winners that day that rings bell with me were:-

Newbury - Gold Rod (Greenham); Night Of Gladness; Torpid; Leander; Yellow River
Ayr - Alloway Lad; The Spaniard (Scot Natl); Jupiter Boy
Thirsk - Tortuga; Double Cream; Singing Scot
Uttoxeter - Normandy
Hexham - Grangerullah; Gyleburn

Thanks paulbu,tend to forget that independents used to hedge with each other,no doubt like on course that has no doubt been more or less extinguished.

yes,i remember a few of those ged especially double cream who won the lincoln and leander was one of englehard's i believe.

That 1862 Cesarewitch featured Smiths too - James and Sydney (no relation), who were bookmakers, who I think owned the winner Hartington. They won 40k on it.

The Smiths were credited with introducing SP betting (as opposed to 'list prices') in 1864. They were also proprietors of The Sportsman newspaper - rival to the Life at the time.

Hartington tried to win the Cambridgeshire a fortnight later, but finished a close 5th.

The Smiths did the double with Rosebery in 1876. he was only given his name a week before the Cesarewitch. Admiral Rous allotted him 5st13 in his first draft for the Ces, but on consultation with a bookmaker (who advised him to be careful with the horse), revised it to 7st5lb. 19yo Fred Archer was booked, and he was gambled down to 100-14 and won easily. He then won the Cambs under a 14lb penalty and was the first horse to do the double.

Both the Marquess of Hartington and Lord Rosebery were racecourse stewards.

Whitlaw - thanks for posting an image of that article. That takes me back. I was nearing the end of my school days and used to read the racing page in the school library's copy of the Times. There are just 2 phrases that still stick in my mind: One is from that article, where Freddie Maxwell describes her as 'a freak' - that chimed with my memory of seeing her win the Cornwallis, where she came clear looking somehow different from a typical racehorse - her long neck was stuck out in front and she seemed to move with a stiff-legged scuttling action. The other article that stuck with me was Brough Scott writing about Terry Biddlecombe's last ride - on Amarind at Cheltenham. He went down to the last fence to watch and wrote of hearing Biddlecombe's 'deep Gloucesterhire "Come On!" ', as he met the last, and something like "and the chesnut fell away on the climb to finish 4th, but I'd seen what I came for".

Thanks again - but I would have sworn it was '72 and not '74. I left school in '72, and thought I could see myself sat in a regular place reading that article.


Anyway, I think it's a terrific piece of writing, and I hope they reproduce the first 5 paragraphs, in the RP, or somewhere prominent, when TWB finally gets nailed to the floor.

ged - I've double-checked. The article was definitely printed on Friday March 15 1974

I’ve just nicked this out of the Daily Express – June 1957. It’s the radio programmes for that day. On at 3.05, Raymond Glendenning (remember him – horn-rimmed glasses, handlebar moustache?) commentating on Crepello’s Derby. I’m not sure when they started televising the Derby. I’ll have to look it up.

Incidentally, there’s a terrific horse-racing bookshop in Manchester called Browzers. Put that name into Google or whichever search engine you use, then press catalouge. He stocks hundreds of jockey biographies, old form books, Cope’s annuals, etc. A guy called Alan has been running it for over 30 years and I’ve bought scores of books from him. That’s where I get most of my information from. You can order online or just phone Alan – his number’s on the website.


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