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kenny mann
25 Feb 12 16:24
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backed aldermoor at 11/2 yesterday 2-15 ling. was told bog which was 10/1 but now they're settling at 11/2 as bet was put on before 5-30 yesterday and was ap market.

i was definately told bog.

how do I stand please?

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By:
Deltâ
When: 25 Feb 12 16:27
on two legs by yourself

hth
By:
kenny mann
When: 25 Feb 12 16:31
silly ****
By:
Deltâ
When: 25 Feb 12 16:31
tar
By:
maurice lester
When: 25 Feb 12 16:32
There certainly wouldn't have been an antepost market yesterday
By:
kenny mann
When: 25 Feb 12 16:33
time you grew up, it's an adult forum not a kiddie's playground.
By:
kenny mann
When: 25 Feb 12 16:33
That's what I thought Maurice, but that's what I've been told.
By:
Deltâ
When: 25 Feb 12 16:34
yes maurice, take note!
By:
kenny mann
When: 25 Feb 12 16:36
10 years on here like me and you're still acting like an idiot.
By:
millhouse
When: 25 Feb 12 16:36
If you are a 'valuable' customer to them, tip the manager and then ask him to phone phone customer services and ask for an ex-gratia, imo...
By:
kenny mann
When: 25 Feb 12 16:37
ok thannks, will try that.
By:
bigphatairyarse
When: 25 Feb 12 16:39
the ante post rule is that bets are accepted all in - run or not, that did not apply here

race was not ante post as it was 48 hour decs and in your instance a r4 may have applied had there been a non runner

it should be settled as best odds guaranteed

TOMORROW'S RACES
UK and Ireland - Best Odds Guaranteed all races
You don't need to worry about taking a price again. Quite simply, take an Early Price or Board Price then we'll pay you out at the SP if it's bigger than the price you took.

WHICH IS THE ADVERTISED OFFER TODAY FOR TOMORROW!!
By:
bigphatairyarse
When: 25 Feb 12 16:41
FROM RULES

On which races will Best Odds Guaranteed be available?
All UK & Irish horse races and every greyhound race offered on this site will be allocated as Best Odds Guaranteed. Best Odds Guaranteed does not apply to ante-post racing, tote pool betting, pari-mutuel or our new range of markets such as Betting Without, Place Only and Insurance Bets.

What types of prices does Best Odds Guaranteed apply to?
Our Best Odds Guaranteed offer applies to all bets placed at board prices and William Hill Earlybird prices.
IMPORTANT - This offer does not apply to bets where an ante-post, tote or Pari-Mutuel price has been taken, nor does it apply to Place Only, Betting Without or Insurance Bets.

IT IS NOT ANTE-POST!!!
By:
kenny mann
When: 25 Feb 12 16:44
Thanks very much for that bigphatairyarse. Price first appeared from 365 early yesterday.
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 25 Feb 12 16:44
Was it put on in a shop or online, cos different terms may apply. Kenny mann?
By:
kenny mann
When: 25 Feb 12 16:46
ub, bet was placed on the phone yesterday afternoon.
By:
TOM-SEAGULL
When: 25 Feb 12 17:29
DEFO 100% BOG DONT ACCEPT LESS.

WELL DONE
By:
kenny mann
When: 25 Feb 12 17:32
Thanks TOM
By:
kenny mann
When: 25 Feb 12 19:36
will hill saying this WAS an ante post race.
By:
Repollag
When: 25 Feb 12 19:44
kenny mann, why would consider tipping the manager and then asking him to phone customer services and ask for an ex-gratia if you placed the bet on the phone? All calls are recorded so tell them to listen to the recording of the call if they defo told you it was BOG.
By:
kenny mann
When: 25 Feb 12 20:00
Thanks for that Repollag. My mate bet the same horse at around the same time. He's queried it and told it was a palpable error. Not very palpable to me.

I phoned today to confirm if it was bog as it was drifting heavily.

btw I never considered tipping the manage. lol, was just being polite to the poster who suggested it. phone bet anyway.
By:
Repollag
When: 25 Feb 12 20:06
kenny, nothing palpable about it, they are trying it on. Insist that they listen to the recording and if you are wrong they will let you hear the recording. I had a similar experience with the Nanny and they paid up after listening to the phone call. Although they insisted it was ex-gratia, but who cares what they call it.
By:
kenny mann
When: 25 Feb 12 20:35
Thanks Repollag. They've just phoned me and told me when I placed the bet yesterday at 2-15pm I was told it was ante post.

It was a tip from the owner who sent an e.mail  at 2-11pm yesterday saying that hills have just "opened" at 11/2!
By:
kenny mann
When: 25 Feb 12 20:39
so it can't have been ante post.

It was when I phoned today to query if my bet was bog that I was told it was, not yesterday.

However a mate placed a bet on the phone at exactly the same time as me yesterday and was definately told it was bog.
By:
yourbestmate
When: 25 Feb 12 20:40
The final decs were in yesterday by lunchtime. It cannot be an ante post race.
By:
kenny mann
When: 25 Feb 12 20:42
Thanks ybm.
By:
Dr Gonzo
When: 25 Feb 12 20:44
The only palpable 'error' is them trying to claim it was ante-post.

They are a disgrace.
By:
kenny mann
When: 25 Feb 12 20:47
thanks chaps, need a few beers now.
By:
the dealer
When: 25 Feb 12 20:48
when will they all stop BOG?

can see it coming shortly.
By:
kenny mann
When: 25 Feb 12 20:49
12. ANTE POST BETTING (FUTURE EVENTS)

a) Ante post prices are those offered on:

i) Horse Racing prior to the final declaration stage.
By:
lazarus2
When: 25 Feb 12 21:01
millhouse`s suggestion that you should bribe someone in order to claim what is rightfully yours is yet another indication of how totally out of touch with reality the man is.

Good luck with this - you are right.
By:
bigphatairyarse
When: 25 Feb 12 21:06
AS i said earlier Kenny from Hills internet rules, which also governs telephone betting

FROM RULES

On which races will Best Odds Guaranteed be available?
All UK & Irish horse races and every greyhound race offered on this site will be allocated as Best Odds Guaranteed. Best Odds Guaranteed does not apply to ante-post racing, tote pool betting, pari-mutuel or our new range of markets such as Betting Without, Place Only and Insurance Bets.

What types of prices does Best Odds Guaranteed apply to?
Our Best Odds Guaranteed offer applies to all bets placed at board prices and William Hill Earlybird prices.
IMPORTANT - This offer does not apply to bets where an ante-post, tote or Pari-Mutuel price has been taken, nor does it apply to Place Only, Betting Without or Insurance Bets.

IT IS NOT ANTE-POST as you rightly state:

12. ANTE POST BETTING (FUTURE EVENTS)

a) Ante post prices are those offered on:

i) Horse Racing prior to the final declaration stage.


You placed your bet after the field was declared.
By:
Rowley Mile
When: 25 Feb 12 21:12
"tip from the owner" Laugh
By:
kenny mann
When: 25 Feb 12 23:26
thanks again chaps.

Rowley Mile, yes it was a tip from the owner He has a subscription service, I am a member.It was his own horse.
By:
kenny mann
When: 25 Feb 12 23:27
Good Afternoon,

Just a quick email to say if your not on Aldermoor as yet William Hill have just opened up at 11/2-which is the best price around at present.

Darren Hudson-Wood
Hudsonshorses
http://hudsonshorses.co.uk

Lord knows why it drifted so much but it won well.
By:
mr crisp
When: 25 Feb 12 23:54
from the above link
from the age of five i was riding horses and at seven met red rum.
By:
Areyoutalkintome?
When: 25 Feb 12 23:56
Kenny.... bigphatairyarse is spot on with his observations (as are many others).

race was not ante post as it was 48 hour decs and in your instance a r4 may have applied had there been a non runner

Flat racing has a 48 hour declaration stage, therefore ante post rules are bloody irrelevant...... the entries were known runners on Thurs (for an example, check Mondays Wolves card, which was declared today). Ask them to define their own ante-post rules!?

The animal in question drifted to a peak of 16/1 on here (14/1 with the books at post time) before late money forced the hands to return an sp of 10/1.

All the best.
By:
kenny mann
When: 26 Feb 12 00:01
mr crisp, not sure what you're on about with respect.

Areyoutalkintome???? Thanks for those comments. My mate after much discussion has been paid out at 10/1 so I shall have a word with them tomorrow.
By:
mr crisp
When: 26 Feb 12 00:15
kenny just having a little chuckle.
looked at the htp hudsonhorses,co.uk link you put up.
its in the section a little about darren hudson-wood.
By:
kenny mann
When: 26 Feb 12 00:27
oh right, Happy
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