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Sorry, GAZO. Just read your post - excellent point.
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yeah, and poor workfoce hails from the this year rancid stoute stable
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I've just read what you put, Monkey boy. Why don't you stop waving at busses, get on one and clear off. Your endless, mindless, clueless rantings about STS are based solely on your opinion which, I'll let you know, is absolutely worthless.
The formbook says everything, you should read it. What you think doesn't matter. STS is already slipping down the timeform list so enjoy the moment while you can. |
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all hail timeform
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youll be on about rpr ratings next
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of course theyre based on my opinion ya facking retard!!
u talk like youve seen the race and frankel already won!! fook me u must do your absolute brains on here with that reasoning! ![]() fook me youre a dumb ****! |
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16 Oct 11 00:58 I've just read what you put, Monkey boy. Why don't you stop waving at busses, get on one and clear off. Your endless, mindless, clueless rantings about STS are based solely on your opinion which, I'll let you know, is absolutely worthless. The formbook says everything, you should read it. What you think doesn't matter. STS is already slipping down the timeform list so enjoy the moment while you can. love it!!like i give a fack what timefore say!! if he'd been english theyd have rated him 150 ![]() |
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rpr's
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ahh, sweet! glorifying english numpties
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they are just ITCHING to raise frankel higher and higher,theyre laughable!!!
i suppose u dont bother with form study brigust, u just back timeform top rated in every race and clean up[smiley:crazy] ![]() |
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anyway i think we've won this, frankel supporters cant come up with any cold hard facts like we can
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Visually Frankel is the greatest horse of the last 40 years and anyone who argues with that is either stupid or auditioning for a Macfly tribute band
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VISUALLY- more concrete stuff there, fantastic. such utter cow dung
anyway, i'm off to study some form for tomoro[;)] |
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herblington
16 Oct 11 01:09 Visually Frankel is the greatest horse of the last 40 years and anyone who argues with that is either stupid or auditioning for a Macfly tribute band hes brilliant to watch but there have been equally brilliant performances so to say anyone who argues with that is either stupid or auditioning for a Macfly tribute band is just stupid! |
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a 100 horse running against an 80 horse would look like sea the stars for fook sake, if you know what i mean[;)]
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Frankel is an exceptional miler, but he isn't an all time great until he proves he's got the combination of speed and stamina that the handful of greatest horses had.
If he's a great he'll do it, I hope he does, plus he's got the advantage over a few by having a 4 y/o career and it's extra year to achieve it. We need an Arc or Breeders Cup Classic, and an Eclipse or Irish Champion on the way imo. |
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youre up late!!
having nightmares about that tom o ryan ride are we ![]() |
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some things can't be unseen unfortunately. |
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not the best until he meets the best which are not racing in the uk at the moment so would have to race in the breeders cup mabey to show us is he up with the best or in Aus. needed the derby on his cv to be up with the greats ,will be forgotten in a few years if he dosent make it at stud
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^Unlike yourself links!
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taipan501 15 Oct 11 22:08
"The horse is crying out for 1m 2f"- and this is based on what exactly- scrambling over the line in the st james palace excelebration= a TOP, TOP mile= get a grip, buddy the horses sea the stars beat in his guineas is the WHO's WHO of top horses And then taipan501 15 Oct 11 22:19 funny what people see, or choose to leave out If the caps fits and all that. Maybe the other poster was suggesting Frankel was crying out for 1m 2f based on the fact that he generally settles a lot better now, is a more mature horse and he was pointing out that it takes him ages to pull up after winning now, so he effectively runs the extra distance anyway but you chose to focus on one race from 4 months ago where it's almost universally accepted that the type of ride he was given on the day was a big factor in how he finished the race. Why do you only focus on the horses behind Frankel in the 2000 by the way? What about those behind him in all of his other races and the races they had previously won or went on to win? Horses like Canford Cliffs, Rio De la Plata, Rajsaman, Nathaniel, Treasure Beach, Roderic O'Connor, Dream Ahead, Dubawi Gold and all of Excelebration, Immortal Verse, Dick Turpin, Poet's Voice are Gr1 winners that were behind him on Saturday. Even if the 2000 wasn't the greatest field ever, he didn't just beat them he pulverised them anyway. Excelebaration would be on a run of 7 wins from his last 8 races were it not for Frankel, is a Gr1 winner, won 5 of his 9 starts and been 2nd twice and 3rd once when beaten by Frankel, has gone off favourite 6 out of 9 times and the 3 times he wasn't was when Frankel was. Sea The Stars was a top notch horse but where's this rule then that you have to win over multiple distances to be considered the best? If a footballer plays in one position and another is more versatile and can play in a few, does that alone make the versatile player better or do you judge it on ability and the manner in which they perform their job? Talking of STS in the Eclipse though, I actually thought he was in danger of being beaten by Rip van Winkle when he ranges alongside to challenge and then seemed to drop off a bit and many at the time said he shirked it or STS pulled out a bit more but what actually happened was Kinane accidentally hits RvW over the head with his whip. |
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so frankel is a great miler and sea the stars is great over multiple distances,still think el gran senor would stuff them both over 10f
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You guys crack me up------talking about horses like they are some different type of human athlete, but with four legs--------they are simply just animals-----yes,ofcourse they are given silly names, and have men dressed in coloured shirts on their backs to make it all more interesting for gamblers, but in essence we could just as easily have cow racing,---- give them all names, put jockeys on 'em, and then the fastest cow could then be hero worshipped too by all the gullible --------------"Lady Daisy" might be a 5 furlong super star----"Lulubelle" become the champion miler----and "Black and White Rocket" be the best stayer-----we could take their photographs, and study their form, and talk about them on TV-----------honestly, you couldn't make it up !
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1m - 50/50
1m2f - Sea the Stars 1m4f - Sea the Stars |
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You claim Sir that all this
this eulogising and anthropomorphizing of race horses is ridiculous and would it seems be quite happy to replace say , the prancing horse emblem used by Ferrari a prancing COW !!! do you propose that said COW be black or white in colour ?? Let us now turn to the Parthenon friezes which as you know depict centaurs engaged in epic battle with other centaurs ... these centaurs may just as well have been half Man half COW instead of half man half horse.......... is this the gist of your argument ? would not one COW engaged in mortal combat with another COW look ridiculous ???? I think you jest ha ha ....now answer this question... how far do you think Frankel could stay in front before STS got to him ...is it 9, 10 ,11, or twelve furlongs ?? would each of the above options depend on ...the ground the way the race was run The quality of the respective Jockeys The track The early pace of the race I hope you will answer these questions, otherwise I shall assume you have more interest in COWS and belong on a COW forum where you may engage with like minded individuals |
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Mac----LOL--nice one---life's too short hey ?----just singin' my favourite song----Mooooooon River !
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Mick Kinane is on record as saying George Washington is the best he's ridden so over a mile I would say:
1st - George Washington 2nd - Sea The Stars 3rd - Frankel |
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I'm a big HRAC fan, but since we are talking hypothetically, and not doing Tom Queally down, but how would Frankel have fared if the jock was Pat Eddery, Cauthen, Fallon or Piggott ?
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Mick did say that George was as good as anything he ever ridden, but didn't he say that after the QEII in 2006?
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Viva Pataca Joined: 16 Dec 07
Replies: 733 17 Oct 11 11:27 Mick Kinane is on record as saying George Washington is the best he's ridden so over a mile I would say: 1st - George Washington 2nd - Sea The Stars 3rd - Frankel is this a joke? ![]() http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10Jmz4izVGg eitherway mick never rode frankel so what micks greatest horse is , is irrelevent but he definitely said sts was the best, look at the youtube vid, he said he rode good ones but this fella is magnificant! |
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richgit Joined: 13 Feb 02
Replies: 22 17 Oct 11 11:09 Mac----LOL--nice one---life's too short hey ?----just singin' my favourite song----Mooooooon River ! i laughed out loud at this ![]() |
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Mick Kinane is on record as saying George Washington is the best he's ridden
When he retired Kinane said STS was the best he'd ridden. |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10Jmz4izVGg
he says it here! |
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LOL--nice one---life's too short hey ?----just singin' my favourite song----Mooooooon River !
It was a very funny joke ,but you must not encourage these Cow people they are more numerous than you think , Cow racing without whips is their real agenda ....by golly I am telling you MR Busses !!!! |
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"I've ridden some good ones, but I've not ridden any better than him (George Washington)".
There can be no disputing that - they are Mick's exact words. For what it's worth, Keiren Fallon also said George was the best he'd ridden too, and A P O'Brien said he's the best he'd ever trained. |
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but that was before he rode sts
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aob said SYT is the best hes ever had
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just look at the youtube video i posted and all will be revealed!!
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