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By:
differentdrum
When: 02 May 23 17:47
So that was the 75/76 season, and he probably was a novice chaser the previous season. Horses used to run more in those days, but unlikely he would have had even 10 runs over fences by the time of that Massey Ferguson win. Question is what happened to him afterwards.
By:
tobermory
When: 02 May 23 20:02
Long memory required (and probably an unforgettable horse to boot). Sparrow Pie - looking for any info as it's this nag which I can blame for getting me into horse racing/betting probably the early 60's.

Saturday, June 15th, 1963

SPARROW PIE ENHANCES ASCOT CHANCE WITH H.Q. WIN

Sparrow Pie and Der Ring, two Royal Hunt Cup hopes for Ascot next Wednesday, ran in the Mile Milton Handicap at Newmarket to-day.
  Although Der Ring came with a strong run in the final stages, top weight Sparrow Pie, who had taken up the running three furlongs out, held on gamely to win by threequarters of a length.
Trainer G. Barling said that Sparrow Pie would trake his chance in the Royal Hunt Cup, despite a 6lb penalty.
By:
tobermory
When: 02 May 23 20:04
^
it was a non runner in the Hunt Cup
By:
onlooker
When: 02 May 23 20:14
jimnast and ribero

Vilgora was trained by - A 'Monty' Stevens

Vilgora was a reasonably popular Handicap Sprinter - unsurprisingly, given the connotation of his name - being a son of Raffingora

Best season was as a 4-yr-old in 1976, with multiple wins

I would need to look up the individual races, though
By:
ribero1
When: 02 May 23 20:36
Thanks Onlooker,as soon as I saw Steve Perks I immediately thought of Reg!
By:
sageform
When: 02 May 23 20:52
The first time I attended Royal Ascot in 1965, I saw Goldhill win the Kings Stand Stakes. I was very much in the cheap seats as a student at the time. I think Lester rode it but I can't find the full result online.
By:
Lee Ho Fooks
When: 02 May 23 21:08
^^^ Wow! Thanks tobermory, I'm impressed. What year would that have been please? (my guess wold be 1964 or 1965)
By:
tobermory
When: 02 May 23 21:24
1963, Saturday, June 15th
By:
madhatter
When: 02 May 23 21:57
Ballyhoara Hill and Catsgore



Dr Crippen    22 Feb 11:38



Madhatter.
Ballyhoara Hill:
Won a 3 mile novice chase at Chepstow Saturday 17 March 1973.
He was fifth with no chance when Solid Gold, Tinkers Green, Master Samson and Cintrah, all fell at the last fence leaving him clear.
Won 20 lengths 5/4 favourite.
Catsgore:
Led tenth till fell last at Newbury 3 mile h/cap hurdle Friday 1 March 1974.
Won by Mac’s Birthday 6/1 favourite with Rossmon 2nd
I have got form the formbooks Madhatter, but I don’t know anywhere else that you can get the info from.

    






madhatter    22 Feb 12:29



Dr Crippen - Thank you so much for this.

That is just the info I was looking for (although I think Catsgore fell when clear at the last on several occasions?). The Ballyhoara Hill race was on telly so must have been part of the ITV & or the old BBC Triella...there's one that hasn't been mentioned on this thread yet!

I doubt that the film still exists but I will never forget it....four horses all falling at the last to leave the distant fifth to win it!

Mad.

    






madhatter    22 Feb 12:33



Yes Glover was in Kes, and in the Pub scene in American Werewolf in London and in Alien 3 and he famously did the voice over for the Hovis advert (kid walking up cobbled street pushing his bike - ''nowt taken out'') and and countless other appearances...a great character actor.

God, I sound like I'm really old..............but I'm only 46!

Mad.

    






HENRY the Seventh    22 Feb 12:49



Brian Glover also played Bottom in the BBC version of Shakespeare`s comedy play, A Midsummer Night`s Dream. He got kissed and cuddled by Titania, played by a lovely young Helen Mirren.

For the information of "grappling fans" commentator Kent Walton, a canadian, was a disc jockey before becoming the voice of professional wrestling. I think he later married into serious money and became a kept man. What a good idea.

    






Dr Crippen    22 Feb 13:15



You are right about Catsgore madhatter, in his previous race at Wincanton in a 2m 5f chase he had done the same thing, falling at the last when in the lead. In fact when he fell at Newbury that made five times on the trot where he had fallen or unseated his rider. It didn’t seem to bother him though, because he won another seven races in the following seasons.
By:
madhatter
When: 02 May 23 22:01
Part of a conversation with a fellow forumite from 18 years ago!!!

Another one I loved was called Firefright....ran mostly over 10f i think, always tailed off early and then finished like a train...
Can't remember anything else about it but my dad religously backed it every time it ran!
By:
TommyWestofLanark
When: 02 May 23 22:02
Sageform.I'm not 100% sure but think Jimmy Etherington rode Goldhill in the Kings Stand.
By:
Lee Ho Fooks
When: 02 May 23 22:06
Re my 2nd question to tobermory......

I've just re-read his first post CryCryCry
By:
CagliariG
When: 02 May 23 22:12
A little nudge to the memory is remembered tomorrow at Ascot i.e Sagaro,a great stayer of the era,I seem to remember backing Buckskin to beat him a couple of times,in vain probably.Memories not so clear tbh.

Also remember backing a horse called Mrspurplepeopleater either late December 76 or early Jan 77,in Liverpool for a couple of days R & R from the Sir Galahad,Victoria docks,lost I think,just like certain songs some races/horses can remind you of particular events or places when otherwise they would perhaps be lost.
By:
ronnie rails
When: 02 May 23 23:02
Meladon and Carligford Castle first winner i backed at the festival and the royal meeting backed them both with Fred Binns though this game is easy .
Done more tanks than Romell since.

Ronnie.
By:
tobermory
When: 02 May 23 23:51

May 2, 2023 -- 10:06PM, Lee Ho Fooks wrote:


Re my 2nd question to tobermory......I've just re-read his first post


Seems Sparrow Pie was a 2YO in 1961 and was still around in '64, '65 as you thought. Just that one article mentioning him I found as he was a decent handicapper seemingly, who was aimed at the bigger ones rather than a classy horse

By:
tobermory
When: 03 May 23 01:38
The first time I attended Royal Ascot in 1965, I saw Goldhill win the Kings Stand Stakes. I was very much in the cheap seats as a student at the time. I think Lester rode it but I can't find the full result online.

Tommy West was correct

King's Stand Stakes, June 18th, 1965 - £2,050

5:30

1st - Goldhill 10/1 - M H Easterby/Etherington
2nd - Spaniard's Mount 100/30 - F N Winter/D Smith
3rd - Golden Apollo 50/1 - A Smyth/ J Mercer

11 ran - fav Merry Madcap 11/8 Maxwell/Piggott

Dist: 4l & 1 1/2l
By:
sparrow
When: 03 May 23 06:51
I remember Goldhill along with Althrey Don, Dondeen and Daylight Robbery in that same era.
By:
jimnast
When: 03 May 23 07:26
Good morning onlooker

Thanks for the info on vilgora I think the race I remember is early season 1977
By:
sageform
When: 03 May 23 07:43
Thanks tobermory. My defective memory must have mixed it up with another year. Didn't Jack Ormston train a winner with Lester riding? My only record book only goes back to 1965 so it could have been 63 or 64.
By:
sparrow
When: 03 May 23 08:03
sageform 03 May 23 07:43 
Thanks tobermory. My defective memory must have mixed it up with another year. Didn't Jack Ormston train a winner with Lester riding? My only record book only goes back to 1965 so it could have been 63 or 64.






Majority Rule the 1963 winner was ridden by Piggott and for some reason the race did not take place in 1964.
By:
Lee Ho Fooks
When: 03 May 23 09:23
Not run in 1964 due to waterlogged course
By:
workrider
When: 03 May 23 12:32
Trillium 3.50 Ascot , I seem to remember a horse of that name back in the early 70s think it was trained by Ian Balding anyone confirm either way...
By:
Hayden
When: 03 May 23 12:49
Certainly remember that horse workrider but couldn't swear who trained it , possibly Dunlop or Hobbs  ??
By:
Hayden
When: 03 May 23 13:01
TheAnorak15 Jul 22 15:29Joined: 28 Oct 01 | Topic/replies: 4,386 | Blogger: TheAnorak's blog
Er, 'she' was a gelding according to Timeform. Originally trained by Harvey Leader, Pritchard-Gordon took over in 1972, when Trillium was a 6-y-old.

Best win in 1972 was the 5F handicap at the Epsom Derby meeting.
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blackbarn15 Jul 22 15:31Joined: 02 Jan 05 | Topic/replies: 13,083 | Blogger: blackbarn's blog
Trillium was a gelding, and not that small. Trained by Harvey Leader for first three racing seasons thence Pritchard-Gordon. Raced from age 3 'til the age of 10.  Very useful handicapper and regularly won three or four good handicaps a season from age four 'til eight.   Won at Goodwood too OnlookerCool

ged27 Jul 22 16:07Joined: 09 Jan 03 | Topic/replies: 11,132 | Blogger: ged's blog
Gavid Pritchard-Gordon renamed his stables Trillium Place (it was originally called Graham Place), so presumably won a few bob on him. David Simcock trains there now. The horse was a fast starter - Pat Eddery rode him, and said he had to be careful not to fall out the back as he left the stalls.
By:
onlooker
When: 03 May 23 13:48
Hayden - Whenever I see the name Trillium - I always instantly think - Bruce Hobbs, too ...

Even though, I remember your above reproduced post from last year - too. Happy
By:
workrider
When: 03 May 23 13:49
Thanks Hayden , brought back some memories there..
By:
blackbarn
When: 03 May 23 14:00
Onlookwe - it could be all those T's trained by Hobbs for Cambanis that triggers the memory.
By:
TommyWestofLanark
When: 03 May 23 14:11
Sageform. I don't recall Jack Ormston having a winner at Royal Ascot around that time. You may have been thinking of Roughlyn trained in the north winning the Kings Stand.
By:
sparrow
When: 03 May 23 14:53
Well who trained Majority Rule the 1963 winner ridden by Piggott?
By:
sparrow
When: 03 May 23 14:58
Found it now......1963 King's Stand Stakes MAJORITY RULE 100/8 owned by John Muldoon, trained by Paddy O'Gorman and ridden by Lester Piggott




The point being that the horse won in 1963 and was ridden by Piggott as the poster has said.
By:
brians
When: 03 May 23 15:29
Horse running today called Trillium , seem to remember a horse of the same name who was pretty useful. Remember him / her winning at York around 1961 . I was 10. !
By:
brians
When: 03 May 23 15:30
Trillium is a flower apparently.
By:
brians
When: 03 May 23 15:31
Sorry workrider, just noticed your post on trillium.
By:
dambuster
When: 03 May 23 15:43
Anyone remember a horse called Blustery ? i had 5 bob ew for The Lincoln when i was about 7, it won.
I think Dennis Mckay rode it ?
By:
blackbarn
When: 03 May 23 15:57
Trillium Grandiflorum - three petals and three leaves!
By:
the bairn
When: 03 May 23 16:24
sotlands' only classic winner was. cheers.
By:
blackbarn
When: 03 May 23 16:34
Rockavon
By:
Shalimah
When: 03 May 23 17:04
Vilgora won the Temple stakes 1977
By:
the bairn
When: 03 May 23 17:12
correct blackbarn, I bet a horse called Linacre, I am sure it was in around 1965 in the Eclipse trained by P Prendergast and ridden by B Bougoure , it ran 2nd but can't remember what beat it, can anyone make me the wiser. cheers.
By:
ged
When: 03 May 23 17:25
For fans of Into View (and Bula), here's the film of him winning that race at Sandown where he came from being tailed off in a 5-runner race to getting up on the line. It's the second of 2 races shown in the piece- the first is the valuable hcap hurdle where Bulaq passed 10 horses from the 2nd last to keep his unbeaten record (13 from 13 I think) under 12 stone plus. Both ridden by Paul Kellewway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FkTtsrDsoA&ab_channel=TIMETRAVELLER1955
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