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OLD HORSES FROM THE 60s/70s, ANYONE REMEMBER..?
OLD HORSES FROM THE 60s/70s, ANYONE REMEMBER..?
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One of my fav trainers to follow, of the old school, was Neville Crump, with his two able jocks David Atkins and Colin Hawkins. He was one of the best trainers of chasers I can remember: Even Melody of course was a stalwart but I loved Ballet Lord and thought he could have been special. Unfortunately he never seemed to get his jumping together...
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The Happy Hooker
Sportsky(came from last to first at Chester). Friday Street(Bath Regular) Given(Loved Newton Abbot in August) Mist Halo (ran in ladies races) |
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spring cabbage alfie B had an interest in it i think some handy touches with it ,if it was of..?..
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Gritti Palace won the Manchester November Handicap after making up god knows how many lengths in the last 2f
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Anyone remember a stayer on the flat called Marco Ricci mid 70's at a guess. Seem to remember the truly great Lester Piggott riding him.
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Gritti Palace - R Fox(7) - rip
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YELLOW SAM(coup)
with plenty of help from S.P.Graham |
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marco ricci, i remember him. was trained by ryan price, i think
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two old favourites of mine (both Cumani)
Sotto Il Vulcano Lazy Dynamite (remember betting him on Tote when he won @ 33/1 sp and got over 100/1) |
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Good Old Days
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mac/blackrock. - missed this first time round. Marco Ricci was Barry Hills for Charles St George. He was blloody huge!!!!. He won a few decent races at 3 and 4 and was close to Group class at his peak. He was sent to race in America at the end of his 1976 4yo career.
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Thanks blackbarn. I see Scorched Earth ran 2nd at Ballinrobe the other day. I am sure Scorched Earth (Meriel Tufnell) won the first ever ladies race, circa 1971/72?
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Correct mac - 1972, The Goya Stakes at Kempton, first race for lady riders. Some training performance by Peter Bailey (Arkle/Hennessey). I don't think the horse had ever run on the flat before that season; then ran twice and won both. Useful hurdler but I do not have its hurdling record. Ged will.
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Cheers Blackbarn!
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I remember the Grand National in the late 60s / early 70s ... there used to be a number of horses running every year at the time ... Michael O'hehir used to be part of the BBC commentary team and realmed off the names as they went out into the course and over the fences (sometimes they didn't) ... anyone remember these names - Red Alligator; Rondetto; The Pilgarlic: The Fossa ; Black Secret ... can still recall the commentaries
* always rembered those 2 particularly ... someone might be able to say if they actually won any decent handicaps |
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Only just noticed this thread originated 8 years ago........but what the hell.....here are a few some might remember.
Highland Wedding......my first ever bet,won GN,still at primary school. Elie Marine.........2nd ever bet,owned by friends of my fathers....won 11/1 that day...1975. Ten Up.....Captain Hodges rode him in one of the Military races......cleaned out Colchesters bookies. Staffordshire Knot around the same time.......brought up either 4 or 5 consecutive wins,had £50 @ 9/2....another that cost the Colchester bookies as half the first battallion were on.  Btw is Mart getting desperate bringing up ancient threads? Just a thought.  |
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There you go Glentoby and Geordie, Highland Wedding, Rondetto, Red Alligator and The Fossa in brilliant technicolour!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHj6cuLlOvQ |
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That was superb Mightymac,never think of going back like that now,have done a few times in the past but seems melancholy,like music tbh.......but that is uplifting especially Highland Wedding for me.
Thanks so much for the reminder. |
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cheers mightymac
.... the voice of Bob Danvers-Walker as well ... great memories rekindled |
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I presume we mean to not include the most obvious, so a few.....THE SPANIARD, PIACO, SWEET STORY,EVEN KEEL.
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steph I remember seeing grand canyon win at both Ascot and Sandown back in the 70s.Used to set a cracking pace and galloped on to the finish.
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mightymac/blackbarn - Scorched Earth won the first 2 ladies' races. The first at 50/1, the 2nd (at Folkestone) at 5/1. Meriel Tufnell rode both times (the mare was owned by her mother); Jenny Renfree-Barons rode the 2nd in both races (different horses). As you say, the horse hadn't run on the flat before, and Meriel had never ridden in a race before - hence the price I guess, though the mare had won 3 hurdle races earlier in the year, and had gone off jt 2nd fav for the County Hurdle (admittedly off bottom weight) in the March before the Goya race in May. She lost her form over hurdles the following season, but won a couple of 2 mile chases the season after that. She fell in a chase in Nov 1974, and I can't find a record of her thereafter, so maybe that was the end of her (she doen't seem to have had any foals). Jeff King rode her in most of her races, though Johnny Haine rode her in the County, presumably because of the weight of 10-0.
Tufnell was 23 at the time of the Goya race. She had cracked a breastbone a fortnight earlier as a result of a fall when riding out. She died of cancer in 2002. |
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* the mare fell in the County, meaning her run of form in that spell over hurdles was 11F1, but the form in the paper for the Goya race at Kempton just shows a blank, and Meriel Tufnell's wiki page says the horse had never raced before.
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Great thread recalling the names of horses that we remember from yesterday .the stories that you remember about if that had done this and if this had done that
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The Pilgarlic was a half brother to L'escargot. Dam What a Daisy
Black Secret finished 2nd to Specify in the 1971 National ridden by Mr Jim Dreaper trained by his father. Tom never won The National but also had the second in 1970 Vulture. Jim took over the licence in 1972 and sent out Good Review to win the Schweppes. 1975 Jim won the Gold Cup with Ten Up, the 2 mile Champion Chase with Lough Inagh and the Stayers Hurdle with Brown Lad Anyone remember Miss Hunter ridden by Frankie Shortt, ran in many Nationals? |
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The first Derby I can recall was Snow Knight's and my favourites come from the seventies mostly ( I am nearly 61).
Firefright was an average flat handicapper I remember that was aways tardily away and then came with a storming late run. However, to me the Champion Hurdle has always been my favourite race but I can't remember Bula except as a chaser, so the 1973 onwards era of Comedy Of Errors v Lanzarote then Monksfield, Night Nurse, Sea Pigeon et al will always be my favourite bunch of horses. People forget their great rivals such as Beacon Light, Tree Tangle, Dramatist, Birds Nest etc but I remember them all fondly. |
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1973: Red Rum's first National and the Spring double with Quizair.....my dad recarpeted the whole house with his winnings!!!
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"my dad recarpeted the whole house with his winnings!"
Wall to wall five pound notes? Sorry, couldn't resist! |
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Night Nurse my favourite NH horse ... I wish he had won the Gold Cup but alas not to be
The 2nd of his Champion Hurdle triumphs was superb ... beat Sea Pigeon; Monksfield & a very strong field of contenders ... up there as one of the strongest fields ever Paddy Broderick ... a style of his own was on board for both wins |
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Nice one Anorak....probably could have done that....because remember the old blue fivers were much bigger than they are now
 (and went a lot further in purchasing power also!)!I cried like a girl when Lanzarote died in the Gold Cup |
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I started taking an interest in racing as a primary school boy in 1967. What a start to it all. The era of Royal Palace, Sir Ivor, Nijinsky., Brigadier Gerard and Mill Reef o the Flat, and my preferred NH code with Bula, Persian War, Pendil and other greats of those days.
Lesser known maybe, but here are some Hunter Chasers I recall from those days, usually marked up in our paper as 2/7 favourites for whatever race they entered. Bullock's Horn Credit Call Sally Furlong Ballino HIghworth The first time I ever heard the term "Talking Horse" was when LEVANTER started his 3YO career. |
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Thanks Ged for the info on Scorched Earth. Have you got any race records on HOMEFIELD one of my old favourites? I remember he was a prolific winner and ran up a string of consecutive victories (Unless my memory is playing tricks). I`m sure Peter Poston trained him and he used trail blaze around the Northern tracks and was hard to peg back.
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I remember Homefield trained by Poston and often apprentice ridden on the scottish tracks as they got a mileage travel allowance at that time.
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I remember Homefield winning loads of races in 1973(?) and I think he ran in the Goodwood Cup that year, or at least the same year he won a lot of races.
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Homefield's 2 hot spells were as a 5yo ('73) and as an 8yo. Peter Poston bought him for a little over 100 gns as a yearling, and he did little at 2,3 and 4, earning 2 places from 20 races.
At 5, his form figures were 00422131114140 plus a few more unsuccessful efforts at the back end. The 5 wins came between June 29 and August 4, with the highlight being a 5 and 6 win in the Tennent Trophy at Ayr, worth more than 3 times as much as any other race run that (ordinary) day. The '4' following his hat-trick of wins was in the Goodwood Stakes, which was run in record time. He was a habitual front-runner, so the time may well have been partly due to him. He didn't race at 6, and he did nothing at 7, but he came back with a bang at 8, following a similar pattern to 3 years earlier. He went 00204301112311000. The most notable win was perhaps the first of the 5, in the 2.5 mile William The Lion hcap at Lanark, where he was soon nearly a furlong clear, and stayed there, winning by 25 lengths at 20/1. Following the last of those wins, he ran in the Jockey Club Cup at Newmarket, but was predictably outclassed at 50/1 behind Bright Finish and Shangamuzo, distances 8 and 10. However, he wasn't done with for the year, and won a handicap hurdle in the November at Ayr under 12-1, with the bottomweight on 10-0. He was still going in selling hurdles as a 12 and 13yo, then trained by Willie Musson. |
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Not too far out then, got the Goodwood race wrong
 I was there that day too. |
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My earliest memories of racehorses as a kid where the Queen Mothers N.Hunt horses with Peter Cazlet and ridden by the stylish David Mould.
Escalus Makaldar Black Magic are the 3 that spring to mind(Luca) |
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Geoff,
I also vaguely remember Black Magic, i think it was a front runner. Loved Sandown and beat Crisp there. |
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Richard Dennard also rode for QEQM as well as Mould around that time. The Rip, Inch Arran, Arch Point and all those ones with names begining with Colon!!!! - Colonsay Isle, Colonello, Colonius etc etc. Her last winner at Plumpton was Brandy Snap in 2000, ridden by Mick Fitzgerald.
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Brilliant thread guys, really fascinating. Unfortunately I can't really contribute as my passion for horse racing didn't really start until my mid/late teens in the early 80's. A great read all the same.
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