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Fairtrader
03 Feb 11 07:52
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Gents, I am wondering if any of you could shed a little bit of light on equipment for on course bookmakers. I already have the majority of it (Computer, keyboard etc), however I am struggling to find someone that sells the stands/joints. I understand that you can rent them per day but I just wanted to work out costs to buy one.

I am still in the process of applying for my licence, which is taking forever thanks to the gambling commission, so Im not in a major rush but any help/advice in general would be greatly appreciated.

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By:
jimnast
When: 03 Feb 11 08:17
theres only one firm that make joints its called securicuit based around gatwick,they dont do anything very quick in fact they make the gambling commision look like marwell,regarding renting joints thats not as easy as you think as around 30% of the courses dont have a joint man ,so it depends on what part of the country you intend to bet at.
By:
bbc2
When: 03 Feb 11 08:44
01342-89393 joint makers number good luck
By:
foxy
When: 03 Feb 11 09:37
good morning bbc

there was one on a couple of weeks ago asking advice wasnot tried to be helpfull,they dont have the manners to say thank you,either that or there just time wasters.probably already a bookmaker just bored.
By:
foxy
When: 03 Feb 11 09:38
thats from jimnast.
By:
REGIT
When: 03 Feb 11 09:39
Joints pretty expensive short term.£2000+.if your not in hurry could advertise for second hand but i imagine these get snapped up.
By:
clayfield1
When: 03 Feb 11 09:44
Foxy, you are so far up your own arse , may be the lad put this post on this morning then went out to work, put your brain into gear first.
By:
jimnast
When: 03 Feb 11 10:08
clayfield the same as last weeks ,people try and help on here yet have to put up with t.ats like you


were you the school boy bully ?
By:
allpoints
When: 03 Feb 11 10:14
Fairtrader
Where abouts are you located?
By:
theressomepratsonhere
When: 03 Feb 11 10:22
clayfield as you say put your brain into gear foxy

did you not bother to read the 938 post from foxy

another whiz kid from the forum
By:
theressomepratsonhere
When: 03 Feb 11 10:34
clayfield must have also gone to work or maybe school
By:
ribero1
When: 03 Feb 11 10:39
fairtrader,as you are not in a desperate hurry re a joint may i suggest you wait a few weeks as hopefully there may be some interesting developments in the next couple of weeks in the search for a more manageable and cheaper joint.
By:
jimnast
When: 03 Feb 11 10:47
good morning ribero

thats both interesting and good news.
By:
jimnast
When: 03 Feb 11 10:52
allpoints

can you hire at sedgefield or hexham ?
By:
jimnast
When: 03 Feb 11 10:59
haydock tatts and silver all one price for 12 days in 2011.
By:
allpoints
When: 03 Feb 11 11:34
Jimnast
I'm not saying no but I don't think I've seen any hired joints at either of these two places.
I think all of us who work these two courses have our own gear.
By:
js
When: 03 Feb 11 11:40
Regit, Who snaps up the second hand joints? Is it Steptoe and Son?
By:
yoyo
When: 03 Feb 11 12:04
mel attreed buys 2nd hand joints, renovates, then hires out in south for about a pony a day
By:
ribero1
When: 03 Feb 11 12:06
hi jimnast,dont want to jump the gun but hopefully it will happen,will keep you posted.
By:
jimnast
When: 03 Feb 11 12:20
thanks all points i know you cant hire at cartmel so i should think you cant at those 2 either,so i reckon theres 22 tracks you cant higher from {thats for fairtrader if he is been serious }

yoyo the northern/midlands joint man does the same.

ribero the monopoly this outfit from gatwick have is no good like all other monopolys racing post springs to mind,the sooner we get a choice the better,lets just hope we can get some that you dont need to be precious mckenzie to move about.
By:
js
When: 03 Feb 11 13:04
Precious McKenzie,where is he now?
By:
red lorry~ yellow lorry
When: 03 Feb 11 13:26
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By:
js
When: 03 Feb 11 13:32
Red Lorry,thankyou he has left the country then
By:
Fairtrader
When: 03 Feb 11 17:24
Thanks for all the replies lads. I will be based down south (from essex) so won't be travelling for more than 2 hours ideally. As I am only just starting up and don't have huge amounts of capital a second hand one/ hire would be my first option.

Another question, would you all suggest hiring an LED board and battery to start of with as RDT charge over £5ooo for them. Again, any help/advice would be greatly appreciated. Cheers
By:
bbc2
When: 03 Feb 11 17:31
hire cost very expensive
By:
Fairtrader
When: 03 Feb 11 17:34
Having actually properly read the thread, I take back thanking for all the replies. It seems foxy is the forum bully. Thanks to all helpful posters, if only everyone on the forum were like it. Cheers
By:
FL Fairfax
When: 03 Feb 11 17:42
Fairtrader - Save your money - the on course game as gone in the south!
By:
ribero1
When: 03 Feb 11 17:45
you will definitely need an led board,no chance without,not ideal but you can probably get one of the old version second hand for 2k or a bit less.
By:
jimnast
When: 03 Feb 11 17:52
fairtrader

if you read the thread properly you will realise it wasnt foxy who posted so dont call her a bully,it was made clear that was my post i was in her account at the time,if you are been serious about your question then fair enough but all to often on this forum people ask these questions and never acknowledge the replies.


regarding led board you quite simply must have one,been based in essex puts you in a good position for renting joints .
By:
allpoints
When: 03 Feb 11 17:59
Fairtrader
If you're just starting up you've got to be prepared to travel until you can buy decent pitches closer to home.
About a month ago there was a position sold in Tatts at Chester for about £300/£400. It wasn't a pitch but it would probably get you on everytime you wanted to work out of it.You have got to be very carefull where you buy into.
For instance no doubt you'll want to buy into Royal Ascot,well at this stage don't buy into Tatts,buy into the silver ring about number 50.This number will be perfectly workable for you until you get some experience & a tank built up.Wherever you buy into make sure they have some decent days,don't buy for the quantity of days go for somewhere that has some decent days.Be very selective about which days you work,for instance if you do buy into Royal Ascot forget about working the Tuesday & Wednesday.They are a waste of time & the expenses are just the same.
This may seem crazy to you & a lot who don't understand the game but a pitch in Newcastle Tatts wouldn't be a bad buy for you but you must buy a pitch here,a number outside the designated numbers here is no good as you could travel all that way & not get on.Plate day & Ladies day are very good,just work these two days per year & you'll get wages out of the place.Once again I'll repeat it may sound crazy to travel as far as these places but if you want to survive these are the type of places you have to go to & the distance you will have to travel.Once again I stress be careful where you buy & don't work for the sake of working or you'll sharp go skint.
Best of luck if you do go ahead with it.
By:
Fairtrader
When: 03 Feb 11 18:01
Jimnast

Sorry, just re-read the top and now that makes sense, apologise to you and fox, I'm a forum newbie and didn't realise, I thought foxy were just referring to your post.

To Jimnast and Ribero1 do you believe that the on-course game 'has gone', personally I can't think of better job. Again, thanks for any help.
By:
IanP
When: 03 Feb 11 18:05
If you can wait until Sept 2012, there'll be loads of joints for sale !!
By:
Fairtrader
When: 03 Feb 11 18:30
Thanks allpoints.

From the south is there any suggestions/stay away from tracks. Cheers
By:
You'vegotit
When: 03 Feb 11 18:30
Fairtrader - In my experience, second hand joints and 2nd hand light boards are incredibly difficult to get hold of and the price of new is high. Good luck with your search though, and good luck in your new venture.
By:
cctv star
When: 03 Feb 11 18:54
Do yerself a favour kid stay away from Goodwood in the south, the x's will kill you.
By:
halfsoldier
When: 03 Feb 11 19:25
Fairtrader - The advice you have been given on here is genuine and helpful. But before you consider packing in your job, ask your future colleagues "How many of them made a profit on course over the past twelve months"???
By:
545APG
When: 03 Feb 11 19:34
Got a 16 line board you can buy for £4K

It's an old Exante one which works fine - supplied with wires for Exante system or RDT

I want to upgrade mine as I've got 2 other RDT boards and it would be easier when I use all three on the same day.

Ps it won't be easy for you to make a living - but not impossible
By:
red lorry~ yellow lorry
When: 03 Feb 11 19:41
allpoints

happen 2 know royal ascot silver 50 will be 4 sale on the AGT website on monday ~ telepathic or what ?
By:
allpoints
When: 03 Feb 11 19:49
rlyl
Bit of good publicity for you there.If I hadn't a pitch there I would definately be keeplng an eye on it.
By:
545APG
When: 03 Feb 11 19:52
But without a valid license you can't bid or buy a pitch
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