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sorry for repetition 626. just spotted multum in parvo!
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Anyone remember a Dickinson horse called W Six Times? Is there any truth in the story that the horse got its name from a telegram sent to the owner by Michael Dickenson. Apparently, the horse was unnamed and the telegram said Worked Well. Will Win. When Wanted. Hence W Six Times. It's a nice story if it's true.
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thanks guys some great old names in there so they do live on
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Old soldiers never die.
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The real National Hunt men never forget their favourites, I always prefered the jumps to the flat personally. Used to go point to pointing at Cottenham when I lived near Cambridge and all the big festivals here and in Ireland. My Dads very good horse Northern Sky trained by Pat Hughes and ridden by Frank Berry got done after the last by Jonjo on Pinch Hitter in the Galway festival but that aside he won a good few races, very pleasant memories thinking about it now.
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I just flashed through the responses and someone mentioned Gay Spartan. Thank you. I watched it win at Wetherby on Boxing Day, absolutely awesome. I immediately backed it for the gold cup and it withdrew injured the day before. Would have won.
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My fav horse Stalbridge Colonist
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My fav horse Stalbridge Colonist
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Cybrandian leading going to the last in the snowstorm and getting done on the run in by The Thinker
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My favourite jumper is a nice little cashmere one i bought in marks and Spencers hth
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remember that well Slippy , amazing thing that day was how late the meeting was running behind and the Cathcart was the last race put back to around 6.30pm which was the closing time for bookmakers by law in those days
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Laid The Thinker and Door latch e/w to my brother and backed Forgive And Forget
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I remember The Thinker and the snow alright. Trained by the legendary W.A. What a character he was.
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Didn`t the jockey meet some terrible end,drowning i think
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Trained in Royston, bottom of my road, Jenkins took over the yard when I lived near there.
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I've just watched the finish of Midnight Court's Gold Cup in 1978. I'd forgotten how easy he won. That meeting was also affected by the weather. I think the entire third day was moved to April.
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Yes pauli i'm sure it was eventually run in May , wasn't Fort Devon fav for that race ?
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VECTIS
![]() RIDLEY Lamb, the Cheltenham Gold Cup winning jockey, and another rider drowned early yesterday when their car plunged into a Northumberland harbour. Mr Lamb, 39, and Alan Merrigan, 30, were trapped in the Sierra as it sank in 10 feet of water at Seahouses. Two other passengers, Caroline Budge, 20, and Stephen Charlton, 39, were rescued by fishermen and taken to hospital suffering from shock |
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Can't remember who was fav for that Gold Cup but Midnight Court wasn't (he was 5-2).
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Fort Devon was 2/1 favourite.
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Anyone remember Vodkatini trained by Josh Gifford a reasonable handicapper when he could be bothered to start. Seem to remember him losing 25 lengths at the start one day and still winning. Also Docklands Express wining 2 Racing Post chases at Kempton.
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I do remember Vodkatini. He was a character but as you say he was useful when in the mood. I seem to remember him winning at the Festival in the late 80's. Think it might have been the Grand Annual. You've reminded me about Docklands Express too, he was very good on his day.
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brilliant thread.
I even love the old race names, the Mackeson, Whitbread, Massey Ferguson etc., I still call them that.. The Bula was a great name as well, real followers know what race you mean, some marketing whizzkid changed it to the fredcasinobingobet. com hurdle or something similar, he claimed Bula meant nothing to current racegoers. Well it should. In fifty years time people will reminisce about Bula, they won't about bingobet.com |
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Coombs Ditch
Gylippus Cats Eyes Pearlyman Bruslee Easby Abbey Memberson Lacson Boraceva Rebel Song |
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I can't remember Bruslee or Gylippus. I've just checked my records and Bruslee must have been good as he won the Mackeson in 1974.
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great thread lads -a lot of old friends in those lists -not sure if already mentioned or not already but Carrigeen Hill and Otter Way were always great favs of mine
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Otter Way - one of Oliver Carter's. He also trained Ottery News at around the same time.
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Bruslee rings a bell as being a Turnell horse but that was just around the time I really got into racing and any previous knowledge is just gained from looking up records.
Unless i'm mistaken we've come all this way without mentioning two old stalwarts in The Laird & Titus Oates ![]() |
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Sam Da Vinci General Pershing James The First Ace of Spies Tom Sharp Rust Never Sleeps Blazing Walker Lean Ar Aghaidh River Ceiriog Saint Ciel |
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True story. My dad took me to the races when I was about 10 to watch the Whitbread and we stood in the middle of the course and watched Sam Da Vinci beat Brown Windsor. It was only when we got the paper the next day that we realised Brown Windsor had got up in the last stride.
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Just been checking my records. The Laird and Titus Oates both won the Massey the former in 1966 and the latter in 1969. I was still at school at the time. I got into racing seriously in the 1970's and have been hooked ever since. Was there a tipster in the old Sporting Chronicle called The Laird? I've also discovered that Gylippus was trained by Jenny Pitman - still can't remember it though.
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A few others I can recall:
Bobsline Noddy's Ryde Soothsayer Midnight Court Snow Flyer Rathconrath Pollardstown And, as already mentioned by one contributor earlier, potentially the best of them all - Golden Cygnet |
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Jackstones,Lean Forward,Redbin,Skymas,Farewell Bleep,as mentioned above Golden Cygnet.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -Below an extract from Independant.ie about the legendary Golden Cynet who as a novice was about to murder Sea Pigeon,Night Nurse et al while still on the bit at Ayr. The racing world was astonished. "I've never seen a horse win so easily at the Festival," said Rimell, magnanimous in defeat. Vincent O'Brien declared Golden Cygnet "the best hurdler I've ever seen." O'Grady saw the future stretching out before him: "Three or four Champion Hurdles." It was the golden age of hurdling, but such ambition still seemed entirely plausible. Less than four weeks later, Golden Cygnet was dead, undone by a last-flight fall in the Scottish Champion Hurdle at Ayr, a race that had not initially been part of the trainer's plans. The notion had been floated to O'Grady at the Aintree meeting two weeks' previously and, after consulting Golden Cygnet's owner Ray Rooney, they decided it was worth the trip. If you're still uncertain about Golden Cygnet's greatness, consider this. As a handicap race he was allotted 11st 13lb, just a pound lighter than Sea Pigeon and five pounds more than Night Nurse which, between them, would account for four Champion Hurdle victories at Cheltenham. A novice not just proving himself capable in such exalted company but ready to assert his dominance, just one hurdle barring the way to another memorable triumph. "I was cantering on him," remembers Madden. "Still cruising. He had jumped brilliantly, never touched a hurdle. And then for some reason he stood off a bit too far at the last and he just clipped the top of it and came down on his neck. We were going so fast I knew it was a bad fall." |
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That just about sums it up punchestown. I've been going on about Golden Cygnet for over 30 years. Every time I watch that 1978 Supreme Novices Hurdle I become more impressed - the horse never had a race. I've seen every Supreme since then, and a few before, and I have never seen anything like it from a novice. Fred Rimell and Vincent O'Brien certainly knew what they were talking about. There is no doubt about it, Golden Cygnet was destined for the very top. It was indeed a sad day for NH racing when he paid the ultimate price at Ayr - a day I will never forget.
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pauli,the horse had an unbelievable engine,I saw the late Ray Rooney (owner) being interviewed on Irish TV about Skys The Limit winning at Fairyhouse when the interviewer mentioned Golden Cygnet,I swear you could see a lump in his throat
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Totally agree chaps , what convinced me he was all set to dominate the hurdling scene for a few years was the fact the " new generation " was cantering all over the cream of the then current generation when he met his end.
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Getting a lump in my own throat now having read the last few posts! For anyone that wasn't around over 30 years ago, watch this rolls royce of a horse on youtube..
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I can fully understand the owner feeling like that, horses like Golden Cygnet come along once in a lifetime. What really amazes me about his performance at Cheltenham was the 2nd and 3rd, Western Rose and Bootlaces, were in contention on the home turn and, in a few strides, were made to look like selling platers. Rimell really rated Western Rose so I'm not surprised he was astonished. Amazed and stunned more like.
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Gylippus, probably spelt wrong unseated Brian Smart for Jenny Pitman when in front at the lastin the Welsh National, the race was won by Rag Trade.
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You've spelt the name correctly, I just cannot recollect it. That was in 1976 when Rag Trade also won the Grand National. Gylippus must have been a decent horse then.
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