The fav is far too short. I think he'll drift if rain arrives; Lambourn winning is good for the National Hunt (not Flat).

think it would have run if their filly had won yesterday - 2 guineas winners both beaten at epsom would have been hard to take

If you look at Tennessee Stud's race record, it looks like they have been struggling to find races long enough for him:
He started out at 8.5f in August, then won his maiden at 9f.  Won a 3 runner group 1 (2yo) at 1m2f, heavy (still only in Oct).
Looks like he will need every yard of today's trip.  If it doesn't work out for him today, his future could include Melbourne Cup (one of Joseph's favourites) or Ascot Gold Cup. But I expect a good run today against some dubious stayers.

That was sore - Euro 100 at 77 (adjusted for NR) on Lazy Griff.

Happy with my two NEW GROUND and TENNEESSE STUD both too far back but backed EW

Didn’t see any mention of that before the race!

To borrow a quaote from Michael Kinanne after a previous Derby "they were all strun out like Brown's cows".
No excuses for any imo.
The winner strung them out and they couldn't get to him.

Fav ran a strange race but no excuse in the end. The winner not the biggest shock but not one I could've backed, so well done winners. He looks more like a Harzand than one I can see winning big events, but I've underrated him this far, so you never know.

Anyone else seen him do that ever?

In May I got an e-mail from Australia for someone I correspond with about pedigrees.
He suggested Lambourn at 24s for the Derby and I said I did not like his chances.
I hope he ignored me and bet the horse.

I am delighted for winning jockey Wayne Lordan as he had a bad fall in the Irish Derby in July 2023.

... unshipped by San Antonio half a mile from home at the Curragh,
which sent him crashing to the ground and left him knocked out with fractures to his legs and elbow,
as well as a nasty laceration to his arm. San Antonio was fatally injured in the incident.

The fav slow as a boat. The punter who had 8k on at 2s must have come out of the local asylum.

he's in good company ryan moore chose it over the winner

fun fact: aidan's won 6 derbys since rm became the stable jockey - ryan's been on 2 of them

He did! Aiden led it - 8 letters -  all aligned!

Just to think the jockey could have had a Derby and Oaks double!

Thanks AT uncanny stat that!

Does anyone think a lot of winners will come out from this?

Thanks Figgis I tend to agree with your thoughts and can place him now in line through the past winners that you’ve mentioned.
He definitely came forwards from Chester and there is the key, he was given more time.

I was looking at the days since last race and he was there along with New Ground having had a good break.

Don’t believe that Delacroix was running on his merits and was ridden how I expected the Lion to be.

O’Brien leading him in the parade in front of the stands really was a sit up and notice moment.

Can’t help think Whirl surprised them yesterday and that today was meant to be his day. Seemed like plenty of people knew.

Was being tipped ew with the rain thought to fall but he didn’t need it.

The draw also was low to middle and lucky number 10! Those high done well to get involved.

Impossible you said that Ruling Court was going to make Fuekd Of Gold a better price in the SJP, his re routing is interesting as he’s now second fav.
I don’t know if Chazza has decided that it’s a no go for Shadow of Light?

But they’ve pushed out Henri Mattisse on the back of it. Strangely the French form is now looking strong and I’d be with that to shine.