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Galopin Des Champs now a clear second favourite after significant support today …
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Thieving barsteward. I hope it's not the same entity laying Allaho before Mr Mullins publicly announced the horse met with a hiccup; Consitution Hill has firmed into 5/4 (from 2/1) here for the Fighting 5th.
Antepost betting is extremely risky with some stables. |
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very true words impossible.The pattern always there to follow.
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Anyone know if Envoi Allen is an intended rnr?
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Seemed to be the plan after his win at Down Royal.
Have not heard anything since to suggest he isn't going that way. I am very keen to oppose Bravemansgame. |
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Tx.
Not a big fan of Bravemansgame,tbh. |
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A shame not even one from Closutton or Cullentra; Envoi Allen for me. An improvement 1st time over 3m. Maybe connections were trying to make him into a 2miler (when he was not) after having won the Neptune and fallen in the JLT.
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whilst hitman looked good at haydock , he was part of a dual trainer assault at the course for sir alex and ged mason in attendance , very successful too . cant help but think that was hitmans big race before chelts , kg is just a participation imo . bravemansgame is the most likely winner " wowcha " and lhomme presse is the one to run him closest " double wowcha " Best of luck . I,m going for lhomme presse
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Looking a decent field. L homme presse is running which is great for the race. I don’t get the hitman thing or bravemansgame at the odds although I have a feeling bravesman is a very good horse. Stamina is my main thing with him. Envoi Allen appeals at 8/1 if a runner but his jumping will be tested round kempton but is still open to improvement at the distance. I worry if he has the class myself.
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Big move on the prices
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18/1 EW on reasonable ground is too big for FRODON, with doubts and imponderables for those at the top of the market.
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The thoughts I,ve heard are that l,homme presse is just a better horse than bravemansgame , 14 runs 198k earned for bmg , 11 runs 248k for lp backs that up
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Heavy rain at kempton hopefully no more but could be heavy at this rate
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Venetia will be delighted with this news, Nicholls on the other hand......
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I think that kempton is a unique test , if a horse loves it (bmg) you can up their rating by a stone or so . I wouldn't give bmg a chance off levels at chelts vs (lp ) Its a education for me , can a horse suited by the conditions beat a horse less suited that has more class , whilst both are aimed for it
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I didn’t think L’Homme Presse could win first time out at the weights after his Aintree flop and he did it easily. I was impressed with that run. They struggle to keep with him at 3/4 distance and that’s handy at Kempton. He might be better left handed so I think the betting should be close with Bravemansgame.
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i keep coming back to ahoy senor not got a lot to find and if he can get jumping into a rhythm could run a big race , ignore the seasonal debut and the run behind noble **** was much better .last seasons mildmay novices win aintree win with bravemans and l,lomme p behind was a good run despite jumping out to the right he still had too much for those 2 and at the prices he is too big . its all about price to chance and if he runs to his best he has a better chance than the odds suggest with no stamina worries either . a few ifs buts and maybes but he is 20/1 plus against 5/2 jfavs .
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I have came down on the same horse as you Foyles.
Plenty of question marks against all the runners especially now we are looking at very soft ground. As much as Bravemansgame is a brilliant jumper he looks a weak horse to me. Hitman hates putting his head in front. Envoi Allen won a micky mouse race in Down Royal. L'Homme Press I really like and is probably the most likely winner. Obviously have concerns over Ahoy Senor with his jumping, but if is on one of his going days he should out run his odds here. Good luck all. And have a lovely day tomorrow with family and friends. |
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Bravemansgame for me and I thought Royal Pagaille was too big at 20 on here so an opportunity to trade maybe.
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FF - W/D bud...hope you had the F/C
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Well I got BMG completely wrong.
Very likeable performance yesterday. |
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Silviniaco Conti to me nevertheless he deserves his chance in the Gold Cup.
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I couldn't have been more wrong about Bravemansgame.Even with the
fall of L'Homme Presse he had the field well btn.Found a lot more than I thought he would. wd wnrs GL |
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Bravemansgame is still the shortie 5/2 fav after two consecutive defeats starting a shortie fav each time. He was not fully tuned-up 1st, and no excuse 2nd time, according to Pumpkin; Royale Pagalle was not to be caught at his track Haydock today.
Could it be 3rd time lucky for Bravemansgame to maintain his crown here? Shishkin dug his heels in and refused to start at Ascot; Allaho had a "stroll" in his come back race post an injury and 561 days of the track last time. |
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Mr Mullins has a few key horses running on Boxing Day in Ireland. Will Townend come here just for Allaho? The horse is fav for budget airline race.
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L'homme Presse not going to make it, back in January.
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Frodon? Are they for real unless to assist?
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3rd last year. Why not.....
£13k for 4th, even £3k for 6th. Won't be many runners, and a nice day out for the owners. |
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A good day out for connections of Frodon; he'd run into a minor place again. However, competition will be greater this renewal with Shishkin, The real Whacker and probably Gerri and/or Allaho in contention.
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Looks like Elliot might have developed cold feet about Gerri's participation at the last minute? The sharp track of Kempton is far from ideal for Gerri plus the probable presence of Allaho can only be a negative. Or could it be that the Savills Chase could be a softer race for Gerri?
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The connections of Gerri are watching the weather, why? Gerri goes on good to soft, soft and even heavy. Kempton could be soft on race day; Leopardstown is pretty similar.
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I would imagine it is because he prefers soft ground, not the current good ground.
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It seems fate has intervened. Gentlemansgame - the conqueror of BMG and in the same ownership as Gerri - has a foot issue. As such, Gerri would be more likely Savills Chase bound at Leopardstown on 28th Dec; Gerri is matched at 15 here.
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Not even 1 euro from Gerri's trainer here. Quite a bit though in the Savills Chase. Can he beat GDC or Fastorslow?
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royal pagaile nonner
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