Ratings only measure how good a single performance is, and it doesn't seem right that a higher figure is interpreted as implying a better horse. Enable has surely achieved something special, in winning the KG and The Arc in the same year, let alone the numerous Oaks. So, Andrew, I wouldn't argue with your view that she has to be appreciated for that. Her rating is somewhat dependent on whom she beat and in what time. She could go on to show a higher rating. Let's hope that she does, but what is more important is to respect her toughness and consistency as a 3 year old.

Sandown - I've clearly failed to convince you that Taghrooda, Snow Fairy and others hadn't failed in the Arc.  Failed to win the Arc, yes, but only a punter who goes no further than form-figures should describe those runs by those horses as failures.  That was were I believed your analysis to be fundamentally flawed and why Muscat's gibberings were called out as monumental guff before the race and proved right after it.  But we're clearly no further down the line despite the race now being run and the result in the book, which is what I, politely rather than pettily, described it as a tad disappointing.

I see that you are adding pedantry to your pettiness now.I am quite happy to concede that being beaten in a race doesn't equate to failure in performance  as such, but then I think that most reasonable people would accept that failure  as used was intended only to mean that the horses failed to win the race. Why you have to make something out of this is beyond my understanding. It doesn't lead to respectful debate when someone can quibble over the meaning of a word used.

I admit to being annoyed with you HM but am happy to move on. If you read my posts then you know that I am not a win/can't win person. If there is a doubt which relates to risk, then it changes my estimate of win probability which in turn affects my estimate of price.We can't a;ways have the perfect data which we want so we end up using what we have. Win stats are part of what we have and they can play a reliable part. They are not the be all and end all for me as illustrated by the fact that I have always rated Enable as having the the highest win probability and therefore the most likely winner.So much so, that on the day,I backed her back so that she wasn't a loser for me at least. Ulysses, Brametot, Zarak and COS would have done me rather nicely.Beating her with a stick was not what I was aiming to do.I just never saw her as a sole win bet at evens.

Very good news Enable will race again next season and the 2018 Arc at Longchamp will be her main target.

Regards Cracksman, will he run on Champions Day next weekend? Personally, I'd doubt it, over 10f and possibly on good ground too as he takes a while to get into top gear, and stamina is his essence. If connections chose not to run him in the Arc I think he'd be packed off for next season instead, but hope not as he needs to prove how much he's has come on; beating Venice Beach in the Leger is not sufficient kudos to consider him a serious Arc principal for 2018 Arc (yet) given the poor showing of Capri in this year's renewal.