Wow GREED, just saw your other post where you "guarantee AFB will be 3.0 to 4.0 in running" ....certainly wouldnt mind a piece of that lol

Whether AFB turns up or not there is no value backing him on his own unless in a treble or acca, however, one cannot say the same about Emotionless; Emotionless is going straight to the Guineas, all things being equal, and the price will be much shorter than current given his price of 7/4 in the Dewhurst last year.

can it be seen anywhere?

trainer and jockey seemed pleased anyway?

I'd have liked to see the gallop though as it's only two weeks to the 2000G.

But it seems all the top-rated horses struggle to keep up with pacemakers on these public gallops. Same with the o brien ones, I recall. Might have something to do with the fact its a prep, not a race.

Link to gallop

Newmarket on Wednesday.

    WATCH & READ: Emotionless 'spot on' for Guineas after racecourse workout at Newmarket >>> https://t.co/sKy6e5h0Kc

https://t.co/v8OfYakMZg

Thanks for posting that Geoff as I missed it.

I'v backed Emotionless for the 2000 and I'm not sure what to make of that. The jockey did get semi serious on him but he seemed to still be travelling well enough and I think there was probably a fair bit left in the tank. There should be plenty more improvement to come (obviously). Not sure if he looks like winning a 2000G in a couple of weeks time mind. That being said, think of how many horses you've seen winning the Guineas having been stuffed in a trial, so massive improvement can happen, and it was only a gallop.

jack-spot

Post gallop yesterday I tend to agree - Emotionless took some time to get past the eventual 2nd to me.

If you boys think Emotionless needs 10f minimum, are you taking the prices for the Derby?

If he is running on at the death in the 2000G he could well be value for the Derby.

I don't think he's a Derby horse. Ten furlongs would be his optimum trip on breeding.

flash bookie

That is interesting and many thanks for sharing that with us.

Perhaps Buratino didn't travel too well to the Curragh and can be excused. Let's not forget he was fav to beat Air Force Blue in the Keenland after defeating that one in the Coventry.
He could be a massive price.

Links reports and video to yesterdays gallops:

Lumiere and Buratino 'just perfect' after racecourse spin at @NewmarketRace. Read more here: https://t.co/zRo2qjvCef https://t.co/aMvbW758As

whats the news on LUMIERE mate?

Just watched it mate, thankyou...what u think?

Indeed, got a £50 treble..DON COSSACK 5-1, AIR FORCE BLUE EVENS, LUMIERE 7-1, plus ive bet them in singles ....no rain forecast for next 9 days at Newmarket also, BURATINO looked real impressive in my opinion...think i might have a cover bet each way on it.

its not a lot considering all the dry days previous, Newmarket dries out fast and i would be amazed if it was worse than good for guineas weekend.

Stormy Antarctic could be a very big player in the soft given the likes of AFB and Buratino will be inconvenienced by it - Stormy Antarctic ought to have beaten Johannes Vermeer in the Criterium if he had settled earlier on. And despite Ibn Malik's win enhancing the credential of Emotionless who beat him by an easy 3.5l I'm not no longer keen on Emotionless given his lacklustre performance in the gallop with two of his stablemates. To me the 2000G might come too early for him, and he did not seem to be the same horse prior to his injury in the Dewhurst.

Timeform state the trainer “is spot on” to claim Air Force Blue “is the best two-year-old we’ve ever had [at Ballydoyle]”.

Have to say I find that an extraordinary claim to make on the evidence of the Dewhurst result. For me, that form puts AFB at the low end of the Guineas winning ratings bracket. I think he'll need to improve a few pounds to win an average Guineas. On the face of it this year's race looks well below average, with the opposition looking a right moderate bunch at this stage, so AFB may not need to improve but there have been many renewals where one or two relatively unfancied runners have outperformed their previous best.

On all known form I'd say AFB isn't an unreasonable price but with such a short price it's always worth looking for potential weaknesses. If this was a race only a few weeks after the Dewhurst then the price would be fair but this is more than 6 months after AFB's last run and while Coolmore have had a great deal of success in these circumstances they've also had some notable flops, like One Cool Cat and St Nicholas Abbey.

Usually when Coolmore have a potential champion miler it's apparent that they're well aware of what they have on their hands from the horse's first run, which is reflected in the market. However, what is interesting about AFB is he never even started favourite for a race until his fourth run, which suggests to me that he wasn't seriously considered a future star until the latter part of the season when he showed he'd improved. In this regard I'd say he has more in common with a horse like War Command than the list of previous Coolmore Guineas winners. Obviously none of this means he can't still go and win the race but I wonder if a horse that showed such marked improvement during his 2yo season will have as much potential to improve again from 2 to 3.

That said, I can't find an opponent inspiring enough to bet against the fav so it's a no bet race for me, although I might decide to lay AFB on value grounds if he gets much shorter.

Yes, wasn't trying to suggest that he came as a complete surprise to them, he always had some market support behind him, just that he didn't attract the early type of support (and hype) that usually goes hand in hand with one they want to tout as the latest "best ever".