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By:
mary hinge
When: 05 Feb 15 23:16
mental to take 13 tonight!!
By:
CVByrne
When: 05 Feb 15 23:23
Goodwood Mirage, fill your boots.
By:
Capallsasta
When: 05 Feb 15 23:43
Chieftain's Choice & Ballyboley still in , they tick all the boxes for this race and Wicklow Brave for the combination tricast
By:
Capallsasta
When: 06 Feb 15 00:08
Roll on Cheltenham .. Great races one after another no waiting!!
By:
metro john
When: 06 Feb 15 15:13
Fascino Rustico solid e/w chance
By:
1st time poster
When: 06 Feb 15 15:36
aso and ballygarry for me
By:
TheGoddess
When: 06 Feb 15 15:51
sixth in the Supreme last year I have taken the 33/1 about Wicklow Brave
By:
FELTFAIR
When: 06 Feb 15 17:47
Don`t like the race at all but have had an each way very speculative wager on Sleepy Haven at a big price on here.
By:
gamerawins
When: 06 Feb 15 18:12
Sign of a Victory big chance off top weight. Can't remember the last time the top weight in this wasn't rated over 150. Has it ever even happened?

Don't mind Henderson saying the ground won't suit. There is absolutely ZERO evidence that the horse must have good ground. Going by the horses action and breeding he is in fact much more likely to PREFER softer going. The biggest problems this horse will have are: 1. Will he settle? 2. The fact that Geraghty will have him 6 horses wide all the way round. 3. Because Geraghty & Henderson have decided he doesn't like the ground and has it all to do with top weight, will Geraghty even bother riding him properly? Remember Oscar Whisky in the Paddy Power? They went into that race with the exact same fears they have for this race and as a result Geraghty didn't really even try to win when the horse would certainly have won if given a chance from 3 out rather than just trying to win up the run in. Forgot he was in a race there that day. If Geraghty can't come there on the bit after the last then I can see him giving up. Must take this into consideration if backing the horse.

Overall CALIPTO is certainly the most solid. Sure to be on the premises.

Both Ferguson horses have a chance also as does the Quinn horse by Kings Theatre.
By:
CVByrne
When: 06 Feb 15 18:49
Goodwood Mirage & Sign of a Victory for me.

Also done Bordoni @ 100.0 and Ballybolly @ 36.0 on here


Very keen on Shotavodka in the 2nd, took a decent bet e/w @ 33/1
By:
alleged22
When: 06 Feb 15 19:13
just the 4 CV? Shocked

STS will be pleased Laugh


just fascino rustico  e/w for me Happy
By:
Big_Issue
When: 06 Feb 15 21:00
Has PW selected Bordoni? Down to 34 from 100+ earlier
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 06 Feb 15 21:05
nice trade cvb Cool
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 06 Feb 15 21:30
Lightly raced five and six year-olds have dominated this prize with that age group responsible for the last eight winners and that octet had had no more than 10 career starts over hurdles with five having had no more than four

Anyone know judo's pick ?
By:
JOCI Club
When: 06 Feb 15 23:56
Aso @ 50/1 for me.
By:
CVByrne
When: 07 Feb 15 00:30
Backed Bordoni in the Galway Hurdle (tweeted that) and lto (site), feel there is a race in him so was always going to follow him. Feel BallyBolly is sneaking in, NTD targets this race and the Dec Gold Cup every year. Also Noc put a good case in his email and I've massive respect for his opinions.

But as tweeted Goodwood is my main bet e/w. I also think Sign of a Victory may be the classy horse here, need him onside.

£30 e/w Goodwood 25/1
£20 Sign of a Victory 12/1
£5 Bordoni 100.0
£5 Ballybolly 36.0
By:
CVByrne
When: 07 Feb 15 00:37
Alleged, there isn't just one horse who is value in a big handicap, there are many. The differing stake levels of the backable horses accounts for how much I fancy their chances in relation to their price. Dig up last years betfair hurdle thread and see who my main pick was and who my secondary one was.

Noc asked me to do an analysis on more than one bet in the same race and it came out as more profitable to not stick to one bet than to force yourself to just back one. After all £5 @ 100.0 on a horse you believe should be in the 20/1 region is always worth it.
By:
gamerawins
When: 07 Feb 15 03:20
I make it even money that Henderson, Nicholls or Ferguson will win it. Vasco du Ronceray will not win it, so that leaves four horses @ evens v the field.

I'm absolutely certain that if you ran this a million times one of those 4 would win it 500k times.

I always respect your opinion CV and agree with you that NTD's horse has a squeak. Can't be having Goodwood Mirage though. He looks like a typical Jeremy to me i.e. flattering to deceive. With the exception of Our Conor, the Jeremy offspring are very disappointing. GM looks a typical dog to me. A solid lay on the place market imo.

Gl all.
By:
timtin
When: 07 Feb 15 04:22
Made my final shortlist for this very competitive field(in random order):

1. VASCO DU RONCERAY has standout form being pitched at the highest level last seasons. His soft ground form looks very good being 7 lenghts behind Far West 2 seasons ago and beating last time out De Boitron by 5 lengths. Has a useful 3lb claimer on board and I see him getting involved @ E/W at 33/1

2. LIGHTENTERTAINMENT has climbed the ladder steadily but surely. His wins are by short margins however last time out he was in front of both Dell Arca and Royal Irish Hussar(admittedly receiving chunks of weights from them) but the handicapper only put him 5 pounds up for that. Its incredible to think he's still capable of more after already improving 34 pounds from the end of last season but I admit I don't know why but he always seem to find a bit more when put against better company. This one will either be in front at the finish or will finally get exposed and finish way down the line so WIN only @ 20/1

3. AMORE ALATO is a consistent type bar the aintree novices hurdle in which something went amiss. Has a very interesting form line behind Irving on level weights and also on todays soft ground. The 7lb claimer could be of huge help however she needs to get the fractions right up front, otherwise will finish out of placings. WIN only @ 25/1

4. CHIEFTAIN´S CHOICE was impressive on his last outings, handicapper penalised him 7 lb but could still have lots in hand considering his famous sire has produced so many top quality jumpers. He puts his best foot forward on soft conditions and is a live contender. Nice value as well @ 16/1 E/W
By:
GI MAC
When: 07 Feb 15 07:14
spent a long time looking over this race; it is fiercely competative. I've narrowed it down too 6 horses

Sleepy Haven / Arzal / Balgarry / Forced Family Fun / Ebony Express / Ballybolley
By:
GI MAC
When: 07 Feb 15 07:20
The official going is Soft / g to s in places. It's forecast to be a dry and breezy day, so its possible the going may change, worth keeping an eye on this as it will make a big difference to some.
By:
sintonian
When: 07 Feb 15 09:05
Unoriginal but sticking with Actival eachway. Lightly raced enough to progress. I was a fan of Calipto but his defeat behind Tiger Roll was inexcusable for me, maybe he had wind problems but I couldn't touch him at the price.
By:
CVByrne
When: 07 Feb 15 09:08
Also Clerk of Course said wind gets under the covers there unlike tracks so could be less holding than people might think.

good luck all, I'm off to Newbury today. :)
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 07 Feb 15 09:13
Cant see how Actival can beat Calipto but good luck sint.

CVB, i will be looking for a chap going mental if Bordoni wins today. I will be the chap going mental if either VDR or Ballybolley wins.

Good luck all.
By:
CVByrne
When: 07 Feb 15 09:19
Good luck Sonko. We can both celebrate if Ballybolly wins
By:
KipperRSA
When: 07 Feb 15 09:22
My betting revolves around these big handicaps and so far have nailed the winner in almost 80% of the races over the last 12 months. I agree that the best plan is to find value, a horse that hasnt shown its hand or on the basis of a recent win is still underestimated and back 3 or 4 at double figure odds or lump on one at single odds eg if in doubt, tea for two etc

Anyway on this race Im on these so good luck all

Violet Dancer, Amore Alato, Balgarry, Chieftains Choice
By:
alleged22
When: 07 Feb 15 09:31
just setting for newbury  meself Happy
By:
alleged22
When: 07 Feb 15 09:32
off*
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 07 Feb 15 09:32
Leaving at 11, as it is a 15 minute walk Cool
By:
colupaul
When: 07 Feb 15 09:53
Savers on Wicklow Brave and Violet Dancer... good luck...
By:
nocturnal
When: 07 Feb 15 10:47
Fine morning for racing......envious of CVB,A22 AND IBRA as newbury was once my local track,have a great day and a profitable one.

Devilish handicap with history of producing some good winners,some good cases made for plenty and like GI shortlist as long as you like.Gone with the lightweight/novice improver route,and the pin has fallen on Ballybolley.Same stable as last years winner,and won the same race at aintree that S O Ginge did,form going into today not quite as strong as that one,weighted accordingly.Regardless result,one for the video,plenty have been well beaten here but gone on to run well at the bigger meetings coming up.
GI stuck the winner up last year at 66/1,lets hope someboby covers todays winner in this thread.

Good Luck All.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 07 Feb 15 11:00
My plan is coming together Excited
By:
JOCI Club
When: 07 Feb 15 11:46
Had a quick run through of the trends, and this is what it came up with:

Chieftain´s Choice 88%
Forced Family Fun 88%
On Tour    87%

Arzal 81%
Fascino Rustico    80%
Sign Of A Victory 79%
Amore Alato 79%
Activial 78%
Aso 78%
Ballybolley 74%
Wicklow Brave 74%
Bordoni    73%
Balgarry 73%
Jolly´s Cracked It 73%
Calipto    72%
Pine Creek 71%
Vasco Du Ronceray 69%
Ebony Express 67%
Violet Dancer 67%
Goodwood Mirage    66%
Sleepy Haven 55%
Cheltenian 50%
Swing Bowler 47%
Lightentertainment 44%
By:
colupaul
When: 07 Feb 15 11:59
Good to see Arzal up there JOCI...
By:
GI MAC
When: 07 Feb 15 13:25
Qewy win just now gives Aso's claims a boost
By:
FELTFAIR
When: 07 Feb 15 13:25
Apart from Sleepy Haven I`ve just had a little on Calipto e-w. Like Sonko can see no reason why Actival should reverse form with the Nicholl`s runner though stranger things have happened.
By:
GI MAC
When: 07 Feb 15 14:14
Looks like decent ground, which rules out a few from my shortlist, but it will suit Ballybolly who I've backed. It may be that Sleepy Haven has reached his peak mark and doesn't have anything more to come, but 80/1 is a huge price for a young progressive sort so needs backed. I have those two and my antipost punt on Ebony Express running for me.

GL everyone.
By:
gamerawins
When: 07 Feb 15 14:29
Any word on why they puled out Sign of a Victory?
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 07 Feb 15 14:50
It was a lame excuse

Wink
By:
Benjy
When: 07 Feb 15 15:16
40s e/w on Cheltenian a small play for interest for me.
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