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Betfair Hurdle - Newbury 7th Feb.
Betfair Hurdle - Newbury 7th Feb.
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Barry Geraghty was expressing ground concerns on the Morning Line this morning.
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Honestly, I will go absolutely ballistic if they have pulled this horse out because of the ground. I can assure you the race will be won in less than 10 seconds above standard. The ground is gd/sft! They said they would run so long as it was not worse than soft.
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Richard Johnson
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Johnson done nothing wrong there tbh, no chance he'd have won their whoever was riding.
I'll take the place. |
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Few mentioned the winner above. WD lads.
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Think if he jumped the last well it would have been close.
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He's exhausted and just plugging on regardless at that stage for me, very similar to last year.
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Well done winners.
Ground dried a bit too much for Activial over this trip but he ran a solid race. He looks more progressive than Calipto. |
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Wd Benjy.
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I love it when an analysis comes together
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Got that wrong with Ballybolley......never in the race at business end.
WP kipper/Bengy and all winners |
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Well done benjy and any other winners.
Front runners day at newbury today. |
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well done if you had this horse it was a very tricky handicap and you certainly deserve the dough ...
for me - i didnt think it had a chance in hell to win! |
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KipperRSA • January 31, 2015 11:58 PM GMT
Violet Dnacer been kept under the radar for this, hope it gets in |
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Kipper.....Do you know the stable?
Long been been admirer of this trainer,he does really well with limited ammunition,surprised he does not get more talent from bigger owners. As mentioned before,always worth looking at those in behind,few got hampered and theres a couple that would certainly have been closer,staying on well once their chance had gone,cheltenian looks good yardstick. |
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Sign of a Victory entered for Kingwell @ Wincanton next Saturday. Would seem to indicate that he was pulled out for ground/weight concerns last week.
Absolutely unbelievably stupid. Henderson is a genius and one of the best trainers ever. He sure knows how to get a horse ready, but when it comes to the finer points of the handicap system and the effects of weight he really knows nothing. He would rather be off levels against horses of the same rating or higher than give a few pounds to inferior animals. If you are well handicapped you are well handicapped and top weight on what was good ground will not negate that, especially against much weaker opposition. Not to mention that the pace was so much more likely to be fast in the Betfair than in what will be a 4 or 5 runner race next Saturday. This horse is much better in a big field with a fast pace so he can settle. Also the ground is likely to be softer @ Wincantion. The ground @ Newbury was bordering on good as evidenced by the times for the day. Also there was of course zero evidence to begin with that SOAV needs it good as he is actually bred to prefer it soft. Honestly, this was just so incredibly stupid by Henderson. That is a Paddy Power and now a Betfair Hurdle they have thrown away this season due to having little clue about the handicap system and being obsessed with beliefs from 20 or 50 years ago that weight means everything and casting it in stone with little or no evidence that horses have specific ground requirements. Stuck in the dark ages. |
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More pertinent is the fact The Master of Seven Brandies continues to employ Andrew Tinkler as a "jockey" at his yard. Said passenger will apparently be getting the leg up on Saturday on SOAV. Always amazes me how the best trainers can be the poorest judges of jockeys: Gosden (Mckay/Havlin), Cecil (Queally), Nicholls (Schofield) etc.
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Fair enough I went on a bit of a rant there. I just find it so difficult to understand how someone so obviously gifted could be so blind in some areas.
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@ Workforce: I agree re; above jocks, particularly Schofield (e.g. the ride he gave Rolling Aces in the Grand Sefton was incredible, he totally left it behind by sitting up on the horse from 4 out and only riding a race after the last). I also consider D Jacob to be far superior to STD. Sure Jacob showed a lot of immaturity especially after the Southfield Theatre ride at Cheltenham. Can't behave like that in a big job, not to mention that that kind of immaturity will spill into other areas. But as a pilot I would have him ahead of STD any day when my money is down. Overall Nicholls made a mistake imo
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Strange what bad judges of jockeys Gosden, Nicholls,Cecil etc. Joke?
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