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If SYT wins this week, that'll be another month lost for me.

SYT out.

Ten you have Nathaniel in two groups and its still another month lost

Anybody else having trouble with the site?

Third time my current horses have dsappeared

Managed to get them on at last.  grr [ ] early night

There's an entry in 8th place that has failed to add any subs.

Every year it is the same story.  You just need to look at the monthly to see how many people can't be bothered. 

I don't get out of bed for less than a grand obv.

We have sneaked one up in to the top 100, so not without hope.  Probably relying on a Danedream King George/Arc double.

Dooberama 20 May 12 21:38

Fame and Glory was the most popular horse I left out, massively overweight the German filly.

Oi Oi

Meandre picked up another 25 points today

Where are you Doobs?


I'm 5th monthly and 108th overall.

Good luck Doobs  -  I am joint 7th just now  -  lets hope we both beat Haleemab!

hi lads and good luck with your lists ,i used to do a few lists in this comp a few years back ,i never got anywhere near the leaders ,i stopped doing it as it was frustrating and i found it was affecting my normal punting as i was bias to horses in my lists and was loathe to oppose them and would either back them in races or not have a bet in the race , anyway enough of that ,be interesting to know  if any of you have ever won anything in the competition, and does having a horse/horses  in your list affect the way you punt .

well done on the 2nd ,so close for the win,and  good luck with it this year ,how many in your syndicate and how do you all go about picking selections ?  cant be easy do you all get together and come up with the lists or do you do it by messageing/ email ect.

5 this time.  I have done all the picking this time,  bar a call to put Colour Vision in.  I prefer to do it myself or have just a little input.  That was pretty much what got us 2nd.  We had a bigger syndicate and too many people putting their oar in after we were 2nd.  Problem is that everyone tries and picks dark horses.  Once you get too many of them in it messes up the lists.  It can easily become a bit of a nightmare. 

I guess if we do well this time people will get over enthusiastic and I'll be flouncing off in a huff about it!

I think he means 5 in syndicate? As a matter of interest T2F and Dooberama, how many lists do you put in? Are they all perms based on a desire to include a set number of horses?

Or do you put in the odd 'off the wall' list so that you're not following the majority?

Thanks in advance.

Yeah, there are 5 in the syndicate.

I normally do 50 or less, but was feeling flush this time so did 50 myself and 43 in the syndicate.  Sods law dictates that the ones I only have a share in do much better.

I don't perm every combination of horses, and don't deliberately put any wild ones in.  Come the end of the year, you always get a few look really wild without even trying.

If anything the TTF has slowed down my horse punting.  I feel I have an edge in the TTF, but not so much in my normal punting.  While I struggle to bet against horses in the top list, I don't really worry about the horses in the list in 12036th. Sometimes it can be useful, all that TTF study meant I thought that Danedream was too big a price on Sunday.  Other times I have remained sure a horse was going on to far better things long after the formbook told me otherwise.

I wouldn't really worry about following the majority, you perm every combination of 20 or 25 horses, you are going to get an impractically huge perm.  It would be astonishingly bad luck if you got to the end and found you were joint first with somebody else with exactly the same list.

And another month started today....

Aimed my subs at the August prize. Here's hoping for a few more days hope..

Haleemab dominates! But does he have an Achille's heel? He does not appear to have (in his most prominent lists at least) Nathaniel and Danedream together in the same list - Could this give the rest of us cause for hope?

Good luck with 'Born to Sea' - Hope he wins for you. The 'Marois' is going to be a terrific race and will have significant impact on the TTF standings (particularly if one of the front two prevail). I have 'Most Improved' in my no2 and no3 lists but they are currently 109 and 416, so already probably too far behind! I fear that my no1 list (currently 17th) will be retreating somewhat after tomorrows races but I am glad you have better prospects. Haleemab is going to take some beating, but we should not give up just yet!

Still behind you, but got more lists round about the leaderboard now.