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Is 5/2 a fair price about Sprinter Sacre in the Arkle?

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By:
festivalfanatic
When: 12 Jan 12 12:35
CCM

It most certainly is the best quality Arkle in a generation and hopefully they all both get there in one piece and come home in one.

If you are a true fan of jump racing, then you will be at Prestbury Park on the 13th March. Even if you only go racing one day a year, make this the day.
By:
sintonian
When: 12 Jan 12 13:16
going for the Double Whammy, CCM. Good luck.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 12 Jan 12 13:59
Dont worry ff, there is nobody more focussed on the 13th March than I am. One of the biggest days of my life for different reasons Wink

Although depending on the result of the first race, I may or not not even be watching!
By:
Desmond Orchard
When: 12 Jan 12 14:25
CCM, I've not seen you mention him, so am going on the stable, but one of my birds has been twittering too, if I'm right. A nice price in a weak looking race. That said my biggest AP punt of the festival 2 years ago was SFTH, same bird, disappointing outcome. Cry
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 12 Jan 12 14:29
Have mentioned him on a couple of threads DO... yes its certainly not looking a vintage renewal, so think we'll have a chance. Will just be delighted to be going with one with a squeak tbh.

Yes SFTH was disappointing more often than not. Couldnt believe the gamble on him a couple of years ago... did my conkers too Sad
By:
festivalfanatic
When: 12 Jan 12 14:36
Sorry CCM, my comment about being there wasn't directed at you personally....it was to everyone on this board! If you won't pay to go and watch this, then frankly the game is not in your blood.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 12 Jan 12 14:39
No worries ff, I love your enthusiasm!!
By:
Masterminded
When: 12 Jan 12 14:53
Fair enough I have not tried to be argumentative just trying to share my opinions. It's important we all have different ones. Have followed the horse from his very first bumper so I have always had a huge amount of confidence in the horse. Those who didn't really expect him to win at Kempton can probably justify thinking that it was a bit of a non event and Peddlers ran a stinker. I was confident he would beat PC and even said to a few mates I thought he would win by a few lengths. Granted I wasn't expecting him to win by that far but was no surprise after he was allowed to dominate the race. Plenty of people who disagree though so I'm sure we will find out who was right or wrong very soon. Personally I can only see SS's price contracting tbh unless Al Ferof wins the VC well. Interesting both PC and AF have Champion Chase entries. If one or the other go you would have to think SS would be huge at 5/2.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 12 Jan 12 15:05
Thats my worry as an AF backer MM. The CC is argubaly weaker than the Arkle. If he wins the VC as you say, I think they'd be very, very tempted to go that way. His jumping looks so assured that you couldnt really blame them either.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 12 Jan 12 15:07
If Henderson didnt have Finians, he'd probably be tempted himself...
By:
festivalfanatic
When: 13 Jan 12 19:17
See only 6 bookmakers now go 5/2. All the rest 9/4. He's not going to get any bigger.
By:
tomdeane
When: 13 Jan 12 20:34
Completely agree with the poster who said anyone who hasn't backed him will be hoping they are right, and also that this race (please let all the big guns get there) is the most exciting I can remember for the Festival for many a year. I'll be there and I'll be very excited as the tapes go up.

As I've said, I think 5/2 is a rotten price simply because of the extreme depth in the race, but I do love this horse and it would not surprise me to see him prove as good as he has looked. It really is an incredible punting conundrum, and I suspect he will go off at something approaching 6/4 -7/4. If that is the case I would be sorely tempted to hit the lay button - is it really only a 4/6ish chance that any of the other runners including Peddlers Cross, Al Ferof, Menorah, Cue Card, Blackstairmountain will win?

Such a fascinating race!
By:
denman85
When: 13 Jan 12 20:44
how is the arkle weaker than the CC when it has sizing europe the best 2miler around in it? baffles me
By:
denman85
When: 13 Jan 12 20:45
** how is the CC weaker than the arkle**
By:
tomdeane
When: 13 Jan 12 20:49
It's not - I agree. The potential is certainly there for Sprinter or one or two others to be better than the current crop of all-aged two-milers but right now there is no way the QM can be described as a weaker race. Perhaps in strength in depth, but Sizing has won an Arkle and last year's Queen Mother so must be the two-mile king at present.
By:
buddeliea
When: 13 Jan 12 20:55
Not sure about that either,but i think CCM said arguably weaker.Hes right,there is definitely an argument alright!!

I know a lot of the stats merchants are going on about the age of SE and BZ,but for me they are still the best 2 milers around till something comes along and beats them.As i have said before imo they are the best 2 milers we have seen since MF.
The Arkle horses have had 2/3 runs each over fences.
No contest in my book.
By:
denman85
When: 13 Jan 12 21:09
budd  do u just agree wiv whatever i say? ha
By:
buddeliea
When: 13 Jan 12 21:29
we do seem to be on the same side tonight mate,but i think weve had disagreements before,if not you're the only one on here i aint disagreed with!!
Laugh
By:
festivalfanatic
When: 14 Jan 12 17:13
After Menorah's effort at Kempton today, I'm even more convinced that the Arkle concerns the first 4 in the betting. I am less inclined towards Peddlers Cross or Cue Card for different reasons and believe Sprinter or Al Ferof will win the race.
By:
sintonian
When: 17 Feb 12 15:11
6/4 top price.
By:
strontium
When: 17 Feb 12 18:41
He looked astonishingly good today, both before the race and during it!
By:
It's Me SANDER C
When: 18 Feb 12 01:40
SPRINTRE SACRE - One of the most exciting horses we have seen for years, Baz G was in awe of the horses perforance, and he knows a good one!The vibes were strong about this horse before he even jumped a fence, Nicky mentioned him favourably in every tour. He laughed at Peddlers cross, posting a really good time. (so called excuses for PC). Today he breaks the track record on softish ground just about making all! With a performance like his I dont even look at the opposition because it was clear he had 20lbs + in hand so whats the point. I therefore agree that he is no value at evs but how can you back against him? If we see any 6/4 on the day i'd say get stuck in!
By:
Wicketd
When: 12 Apr 12 22:51
i dont think peddlers is going to be a force over fences, it's just a gut feeling based on what we've seen so far. i wouldn't be surprised at all if he ends up a world hurdle horse next year or the year after.

he has a sort of similar profile to azertyuiop and reminds me a lot of him, although obviously that doesnt make him an automatic arkle winner.

blackstairmountain is nowhere near classy enough to win an arkle (imo). cue card and menorah, mainly menorah, would be the two i'd expect to fight it out with SS.


told you all LaughLaugh

didnt even back the fc Cry
By:
Wicketd
When: 12 Apr 12 22:52
that was in jan btw Love
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