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By:
sintonian
When: 01 Oct 11 16:48
Mmm it doesn't sound good reading the last page of this thread re Ground.

If you have not placed a bet already, then I suggest you hold off until the first races have been run tomorrow.

I added Snow Fairy this morning but will be very angry if they have overwatered.
By:
Figgis
When: 01 Oct 11 16:54
Rajsaman and Byword couldn't possibly have recorded those times on ground any slower than good.
By:
sintonian
When: 01 Oct 11 16:57
cheers Figgis. Confidence restored. Laugh
By:
MrDinos
When: 01 Oct 11 16:59
It's baking hot in Paris today, clear blue sky!!! The Seine is nearly empty there must be a draught as well!
By:
zilzal1
When: 01 Oct 11 17:01
because the Phucking Seine has probably been transferred onto Longchamp
By:
elisjohn
When: 01 Oct 11 17:01
reliable man was as much of a doubt as nathaniel mid week, think it was easy to get 50s on here , connections must have known about watering cos only horse backed since friday
By:
MrDinos
When: 01 Oct 11 17:05
Oops spelling mistake, bloody predictive text on my phone, I meant drought! Apologies to all.
By:
Figgis
When: 01 Oct 11 17:59
Apart from the times pointing to good ground, I also think that's how it looks visually. Yes, there is some turf kicking up but it just looks to be just the top surface. The hooves aren't sinking well into the ground, nothing appears to be floundering and the runners are finishing close up, not strung out like chasers. In other words this is nothing like York in August. I don't necessarily agree with altering safe good to firm but if the ground remains similar to today I don't think any horse will have a valid excuse.
By:
mr_sykes
When: 01 Oct 11 18:13
will they water again tonight or just leave it?
By:
SoYouThink
When: 01 Oct 11 18:15
As stated throughout the thread, I am all over So You Think. Some people who might not want to see him win though. Some overboard comments.

Pedrobob - Little chance over 12f at Longchamp if they go a decent gallop, stamina will be well exposed as it was at Ascot and very nearly at Leopardstown.

Rowley Mile - if syt wins the arc, i'll genuinely stop posting on here

Sintonian - just does not look like an Arc contender

Silvergreaser - This horse has no chance in the ARC

Platini - The only thing I'm confident of is SYT won't be winning.

Frankelstein - CANNOT SEE HIM WINNING THE ARC IN A MONTH OF SUNDAYS.

A_T - I see him as a Giant's Causeway type - tough, reliable and yes top class but not going to win a 12f Arc he won't have the speed at the end of the race.

Jair1970 - Just can't believe that So You Think can win having never run over 12f

Mr Mischief - sreiously considering a proper place lay of SYT

The Gotchee - If s SYT wins the Arc I will give up backing horses.

Few people with exaggerated comments, Laugh but we'll see who's made to eat their words tomorrow!

Mu suggestion to the above is to withdraw their comments before it's too late.

Best of Luck to all getting involved.
By:
G1_Jockey_4
When: 01 Oct 11 18:49
only two form lines you need to be concerned with.


midday and dandino

its easy to work out which horses are way over priced and which ones are ridiculously short.
By:
turnip turns
When: 01 Oct 11 18:52
Figgis     01 Oct 11 17:59 
Apart from the times pointing to good ground, I also think that's how it looks visually. Yes, there is some turf kicking up but it just looks to be just the top surface. The hooves aren't sinking well into the ground, nothing appears to be floundering and the runners are finishing close up, not strung out like chasers. In other words this is nothing like York in August. I don't necessarily agree with altering safe good to firm but if the ground remains similar to today I don't think any horse will have a valid excuse.

Totally agree after watching the racing today,and it appears Mr Dettori does too,this was a tweet earlier,

gcunning12 Graham Cunningham
Frankie says the ground is "good, English good." Whatever that means.
By:
mr_sykes
When: 01 Oct 11 18:54
could be faster come the ARC if its still sunny and they dont water tonight
By:
turnip turns
When: 01 Oct 11 18:56
Agree mr sykes,but will they refrain from doing soPlain
By:
mr_sykes
When: 01 Oct 11 19:01
have no idea with the watering situation but if they dont that sun will dry it well out and it will be at least good or better
By:
turnip turns
When: 01 Oct 11 19:03
Hopefully you are right,for me its Snowy fairy and Workforce,good luck allCool
By:
turnip turns
When: 01 Oct 11 19:08
Just been looking at Snow Fairy's stats,and since the start of her 3yo campaign she is unbeaten over 1m4f with 10 or more runners,long held the view that big fields suit and thats backed that up,might go in again tomozCool
By:
elisjohn
When: 01 Oct 11 19:28
dont care who wins as long its not coolmore
By:
jair1970
When: 01 Oct 11 22:20
Hey SoYouThink add Nick Mordin to the naysayers list

Reckons Longchamp won't suit the horse at all.
By:
Tavaris Jackson
When: 02 Oct 11 01:08
dont care as long as elisjohn doesn't win
By:
sintonian
When: 02 Oct 11 08:58
very nice of you to keep notes on us all SYT Blush

If he wins I couldn't give a rats ar5se. It is one opinion on one horse and I dont want to back him for the race. Simple.

You can also add the deeply biased Dave Duggan to the naysayers list who surprisingly doesnt fancy him either.

fyi .. more money has been matched on SYT in the ante-post market and day of race market than any other horse so clearly he is well fancied for you. good luck and may the best horse win.
By:
sintonian
When: 02 Oct 11 09:03
anyone no what segal has selected today for the race ?
By:
Stake & Chips
When: 02 Oct 11 09:09
Hiruno DÁmour
By:
sintonian
When: 02 Oct 11 09:12
cheers stakey.

PP are a standout 11/2 about SYT right now fyi ...
By:
Stake & Chips
When: 02 Oct 11 09:21
The race looks wide open to me, though I would probably be in the French camp, rather than the Irish / UK challenge...
By:
turnip turns
When: 02 Oct 11 10:48
racing_post Racing Post
Longchamp ground officially good. Clerk of the course reports NO watering took place last night but there was a heavy dew. Max 29C expected.
By:
Platini
When: 02 Oct 11 11:23
SYT, a little touchy about your horse?

Look, there will be no excuses for him today. The ground is in his favour now, and the field has been weakened with the withdrawal of heavyweight contenders.

But he still won't be winning. I am prepared to eat huge humble pie if he proves me wrong, but it's not gonna happen Happy
By:
zilzal1
When: 02 Oct 11 11:40
Great news about no watering, leave it as late as you can FrankieLove or Meandre
By:
WorkOnIt
When: 02 Oct 11 11:42
You won't go far wrong in this race if you back the best French 3yo colt.

Reliable Man & Meandre for me.

Good luck all.
By:
turnip turns
When: 02 Oct 11 12:29
racing_post Racing Post
Kieren Fallon: "I thought it was good ground. It will be good fast ground by the Arc." Lemaire also describes ground as good.
By:
magic carpet
When: 02 Oct 11 12:43
Although the pools for the arc will swell dramatically in the build up to the big race So You Think is 13-1 on the pmu at this moment and 15-2 coupled with Treasure Beach and SNA.
By:
turnip turns
When: 02 Oct 11 12:57
Ground getting faster by the minute imo,sole powers run proves thatCool
By:
Figgis
When: 02 Oct 11 13:03
Agreed, definitely good to firm there, although the 5f course can ride a bit quicker.
By:
unclepuncle
When: 02 Oct 11 13:13
Hoping Snow Fairy or Silver Pond win but my lays are:

Lay Masked Marvel for a place
Lay Danedream for a place
By:
turnip turns
When: 02 Oct 11 13:13
true figgis,but good news for Snow FairyCool
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 02 Oct 11 13:27
Wide Draws look a postive now...faster ground in the middle of the track. the inside is dead.
By:
unclepuncle
When: 02 Oct 11 13:29
Maybe one of the jockeys will have the balls to come right to the stands side Shocked
By:
Figgis
When: 02 Oct 11 14:01
Not as fast on the rest of the track, just the quick side of good I'd say.
By:
RMB ©
When: 02 Oct 11 14:07
How does one bet into the PMU please?
By:
mr_sykes
When: 02 Oct 11 14:13
just ask your bookmaker for french odds or PMU
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