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Good day all,
R Heat Lightning - Juvenile Fillies Was taken by this in defeat by the baffert filly last time out, had a horrendous trip and looks sure to be a closer given that we can expect a fast pace. come on Johnny Val get her home ! took advantage of the 12/1 ew offered by Victor Chandler on this. [b] Crown Of Thorns- Dirt Mile[/b] Mandella knows how to win a race at the B/Cup, very lightly raced this year, really got into it with Twirling Candy last time and was caught by Richards Kid, think it is a very shrewd move to stay at the mile rather than the classic, could pay big dividends. Blame- Classic All over this, think it is a knocking bet ew, improves pounds when it runs at Churchill, fast pace will suit it with Haynesfield, Quality Road and the Japanese Hope tearing it up, fast and late with the great mare for company... Ew Singles Ew Trixie.. |
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anybody got any news on mastery?
only race since dubai in march was oct 15, g3 at hq over inadequate 9f looks to have been aimed at the marathon not qouted in markets, injured? |
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Looks like Paddy OPrado could be going for the Classic rather than the turf! Surprising if true.
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20101021/SPORTS1405/101021033/Horse-racing-Paddy-O-Prado-to-run-in-America-s-richest-race |
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Got to be closers in the classic Tav, no way the likes of Haynesfield,Quality road, Espirit get a easy lead here.
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Why is Artic Cosmos still being quoted ? I thought he was ruled out a couple of weeks ago through injury ?
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They quote loads of horses who want run. I bet most of us could look at the races and pick out a dozen quoted NRs easily. O'Brien said he was taking 4 horses and the bookies have taken it upon themselves to enter things such as Starspangledbanner for the mile and Joshua Tree for the turf.
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Been looking at the BC dirt Mile and i think HERE COMES BEN is decent value at 365 (9s)
on a nice upward curve form wise 4from4 this year, g1 win last time, good track form think it will get shorter and capable of a bold show |
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CHAMPIONSHIP FRIDAY
MARATHON Known horses whose connections intend to run in the third running of the Grade III, $500,000 Breeders’ Cup Marathon for 3-year-olds and up at 1 ≤ miles on Friday, Nov. 5 A.U. Miner (trained by Clark Hanna), Alcomo-BRZ (Eduardo Caramori), Atoned (Neil Howard), Bright Horizon-GB (Aidan O’Brien), Eldaafer (Diane Alvarado), Falling Knife (Tom Amoss), Precision Break (Paul Cole), Tastahil-IRE (Barry Hills) Temple City (Carla Gaines). Known horses whose connections may be giving the Marathon some consideration: Dansant-GB, Gabriel’s Hill, Giant Oak (Clark Handicap), Prince Will I Am (Turf), Wade Giles-IRE, Where’s the Remote (Hollywood Turf Cup) Whispering Gallery-GB. JUVENILE FILLIES TURF Known horses whose connections intend to run in the third running of the Grade II, $1 million Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Fillies Turf for 2-year-old fillies over one mile on the Matt Winn Turf Course on Friday, Nov. 5 : Arch Support (trained by Gary Contessa), Forest Legend (Victoria Oliver), Kathmanblu (Ken McPeek), More Than Real (Todd Pletcher), New Normal (Mark Frostad), Quiet Oasis-IRE (Brian Meehan), Tale Untold (Richard Hannon), Together-IRE (Aidan O’Brien), Winter Memories (Jim Toner) and Wyomia (Juvenile Fillies). Known horses whose connections may be giving the Juvenile Fillies Turf some consideration: Cloneylass-IRE, Fancy Point, Harlan’s Ruby, Hooray-GB, Jazzy Jessy, Jordy Y (Juvenile Fillies), Singapore Lilly-IRE, Street Chimes, Theyskens’ Theory (Juvenile Fillies) and Tiger Girl. FILLY & MARE SPRINT Known horses whose connections intend to run in the fourth running of the Grade 1, $1 million Sentient Jet Breeders’ Cup Filly & Mare Sprint for fillies and mares, 3-years-old and up, at seven furlongs on Friday, Nov. 5 (Race 7, 5:30 p.m. ET, start of the $750,000 guaranteed Pick 4, TV: ESPN2): Champagne d’Oro (trained by Eric Guillot), Dubai Majesty (Bret Calhoun), Evening Jewel (Jim Cassidy), First Passage (Marty Wolfson), Informed Decision (Jonathan Sheppard), Jessica Is Back (Marty Wolfson), Moontune Missy (Eoin Harty), My Jen (Eddie Kenneally), Qualia (Robert Ribaudo), Rightly So (Tony Dutrow), Rinterval-IRE (Eric Reed), Sara Louise (Saeed bin Suroor), Secret Gypsy (Ronny Werner), Sweet August Moon (Brian Koriner), Switch (John Sadler) and Tidal Pool (D. Wayne Lukas). Known horses whose connections may be giving the Filly & Mare Sprint some consideration: Gabby’s Golden Gal, Nicole H and Rapport. FILLY & MARE TURF Known horses whose connections intend to run in the 12th running of the Grade I, $2 million Emirates Airline Breeders’ Cup Filly & Mare Turf for fillies and mares, 3-years-old and up, at 1 3/8 miles over the Matt Winn Turf Course on Friday, Nov. 5 (Race 8, 6:10 p.m. ET, TV: ESPN2): Changing Skies-IRE (trained by Bill Mott), Eclair de Lune-GER (Ron McAnally), Forever Together (Jonathan Sheppard), Harmonious (John Shirreffs), Hibaayeb-GB (Saeed bin Suroor), Midday-GB (Henry Cecil), Plumania-GB (Andre Fabre) and Red Desire-JPN (Mikio Matsunaga). Known horses whose connections may be giving the Filly & Mare Turf some consideration: Ave-GB, Hot Cha Cha, Keertana, Miss Keller-IRE, Shared Account and Turning Top-IRE. JUVENILE FILLIES Known horses whose connections intend to run in the 27th running of the Grade I, $2 million Grey Goose Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Fillies for 2-year-old fillies at 1 1/16 miles on Friday, Nov. 5 (Race 9, 6:50 p.m. ET, TV: ESPN2): A Z Warrior (trained by Bob Baffert), Awesome Feather (Stan Gold), Delightful Mary (Mark Casse), Harlan’s Ruby (Ken McPeek), Izshelegal (Terry Knight), Jordy Y (Wayne Catalano), Joyful Victory (Tony Dutrow), R Heat Lightning (Todd Pletcher), Soundwave (Ronny Werner) and Tell a Kelly (John Sadler). Known horses whose connections may be giving the Juvenile Fillies some consideration: Honey Chile (Pocahontas), Indian Gracey, Tale Untold (Juvenile Fillies Turf), Theyskens’ Theory, Together-IRE (Juvenile Fillies Turf) and Wyomia (Juvenile Fillies Turf). LADIES’ CLASSIC Known horses whose connections intend to run in the 27th running of the Grade I, $2 million Breeders’ Cup Ladies’ Classic for fillies and mares, 3-years-old and up, at 1 1/8 miles on Friday, Nov. 5 (Race 10, 7:30 p.m. ET, TV: ESPN2): Acoma (trained by David Carroll), Acting Happy (Rick Dutrow Jr.), Blind Luck (Jerry Hollendorfer), Funny Moon (Christophe Clement), Havre de Grace (Tony Dutrow), Life At Ten (Todd Pletcher), Malibu Prayer (Todd Pletcher), Persistently (“Shug” McGaughey), Seeking the Title (Dallas Stewart) and Unrivaled Belle (Bill Mott). Known horses whose connections may be giving the Ladies’ Distaff some consideration: Always a Princess, Evening Jewel (F&M Sprint), Milwaukee Appeal, Third Dawn (Chilukki) and Zardana-BRZ. CHAMPIONSHIP SATURDAY JUVENILE TURF Known horses whose connections intend to run in the third running of the Grade II, $1 million Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Turf for 2-year-old colts and geldings over the Matt Winn Turf Course on Saturday, Nov. 6 (Race 4, 1:50 p.m. ET, start of the $1 million guaranteed Pick 4, TV: ABC): Air Support (trained by “Shug” McGaughey), Banned (Tom Proctor), Cozy Kitten (Wesley Ward), Klammer-GB (Jane Chapple-Hyam), Pluck (Todd Pletcher), Soldat (Kiaran McLaughlin) and Typhoon Slew (Mike Maker). Known horses whose connections may be giving the Juvenile Turf some consideration: Biondetti, Deciphering Dreams, J.B.’s Thunder (Juvenile), Major Gain, Mantoba-GB, Powhatan County, Rerouted, Rockin Heat, Rogue Romance (Juvenile), Rough Sailing, Titus Mills-IRE, Treasure Beach-GB, Utley and Willcox Inn. DIRT MILE Known horses whose connections intend to run in the fourth running of the Grade I, $1 million Breeders’ Cup Dirt Mile for 3-year-olds and up at one mile (one-turn) on Saturday, Nov. 6 (Race 5, 2:30 p.m. ET, TV: ABC): A Little Warm (trained by Tony Dutrow), Aikenite (Todd Pletcher), Awesome Gem (Craig Dollase), Crown of Thorns (Richard Mandella), Dakota Phone (Jerry Hollendorfer), Gayego (Saeed bin Suroor), Here Comes Ben (Charlie Lopresti), Hurricane Ike (John Sadler), Mine That Bird (D. Wayne Lukas), Thiskyhasnolimit (Steve Asmussen), Tizway (Jim Bond), Twirling Candy (John Sadler) and Vineyard Haven (Saeed bin Suroor). Known horses whose connections may be giving the Dirt Mile some consideration: Bribon-FR (Sprint), Duke of Mischief, Jeranimo, Mad Flatter, Morning Line (Classic), Redding Colliery (Clark Handicap) and Warrior’s Reward (Sprint). TURF SPRINT Known horses whose connections intend to run in the third running of the Grade II, $1 million Breeders’ Cup Turf Sprint for 3-year-olds and up at five furlongs over the Matt Winn Turf Course on Saturday, Nov. 6 (Race 6, 3:15 p.m. ET, start of the $2 million guaranteed Pick 6, TV: ABC): Awakino Cat (Linda Rice), California Flag (Brian Koriner), Central City (Ronny Werner), Chamberlain Bridge (Bret Calhoun), Due Date (Steve Margolis), Elusive Gift (Richard Vega), Fatal Bullet (Reade Baker), Grand Adventure (Mark Frostad), Little Nick (Anthony Quartarolo), Quick Enough (Doug O’Neill), Rose Catherine (Todd Pletcher), Silver Timber (Chad Brown), Stradivinsky (Rick Dutrow Jr.), Tropic Storm (Craig Dollase) and Unzip Me (Marty Jones). Known horses whose connections may be giving the Turf Sprint some consideration: A Unique Treasure, Bridgetown, Gilt Edge Girl (Sprint), Ravalo, Scenic Blast-AUS and West Ocean. JUVENILE Known horses whose connections intend to run in the 27th running of the Grade I, $2 million Grey Goose Breeders’ Cup Juvenile for 2-year-old colts and geldings at 1 1/16 miles on Saturday, Nov. 6 (Race 7, 3:55 p.m. ET, TV: ESPN): Boys At Tosconova (Rick Dutrow Jr.), J P’s Gusto (David Hofmans), Jaycito (Mike Mitchell), Stay Thirsty (Todd Pletcher) and Uncle Mo (Todd Pletcher). Known horses whose connections may be giving the Juvenile some consideration: Astrology, Blue Laser (Delta Jackpot), Caleb’s Posse, Factum, J.B.’s Thunder (Delta Jackpot), Madman Diaries (Delta Jackpot), Major Gain (Juvenile Turf), Mountain Town, Murjan, Riveting Reason, Rockin Heat, and Rogue Romance (Juvenile Turf). MILE Known horses whose connections intend to run in the 27th running of the Grade I, $2 million TVG Breeders’ Cup Mile for 3-year-olds and up at one mile over the Matt Winn Turf Course on Saturday, Nov. 6 (Race 8, 4:40 p.m. ET, start of the $1.5 million guaranteed Pick 4, TV: ESPN): Courageous Cat (Bill Mott), Court Vision (Rick Dutrow Jr.), Delegator-GB (Saeed bin Suroor), Get Stormy (Tom Bush), Goldikova-IRE (Freddie Head), Paco Boy-IRE (Richard Hannon), Proviso-GB (Bill Mott) and Sidney’s Candy (John Sadler). Known horses whose connections may be giving the Mile some consideration: Beethoven-IRE, Enriched, Gio Ponti (Classic), Grand Rapport, Society’s Chairman, Starspangledbanner-AUS, Victor’s Cry and Yankee Fourtune (Commonwealth Turf). SPRINT Known horses whose connections intend to run in the 27th running of the Grade I, $2 million Sentient Jet Breeders’ Cup Sprint for 3-year-olds and up at six furlongs on Saturday, Nov. 6 (Race 9, 5:20 p.m. ET, TV: ESPN): Atta Boy Roy (trained by Valorie Lund), Big Drama (David Fawkes), Cash Refund (Steve Margolis), Cost of Freedom (John Sadler), Dancing in Silks (Carla Gaines), E Z’s Gentleman (Bob Baffert), Girolamo (Saeed bin Suroor), Hamazing Destiny (D. Wayne Lukas), Kinsale King (Carl O’Callaghan), Riley Tucker (Steve Asmussen), Smiling Tiger (Jeff Bonde), Supreme Summit (Mike Puype), Warrior’s Reward (Ian Wilkes) and Wise Dan (Charlie Lopresti). Known horses whose connections may be giving the Sprint some consideration: Bank Merger, Bribon-FR (Dirt Mile), Gilt Edge Girl (Turf Sprint), Hollywood Hit, Latigo Shore, Rule by Night, and Wildcat Brief. TURF Known horses whose connections intend to run in the 27th running of the Grade I, $3 million Emirates Airline Breeders’ Cup Turf for 3-year-olds and up at 1 ∏ miles over the Matt Winn Turf Course on Saturday, Nov. 6 (Race 10, 6 p.m. ET, TV: ESPN): Al Khali (trained by Bill Mott), Behkabad-FR (Jean-Claude Rouget), Champ Pegasus (Richard Mandella), Debussy-IRE (John Gosden) and Winchester (Christophe Clement). Known horses whose connections may be giving the Turf some consideration: Dangerous Midge, Gitano Hernando-GB (Classic), Joshua Tree-IRE, Paddy O’Prado (Classic/Japan Cup), Plumania-GB (Filly & Mare Turf), Prince Will I Am (Marathon), Redwood-GB, Tazeez, Telling and Workforce-GB. CLASSIC Known horses whose connections intend to run in the 27th running of the Grade I, $5 million Breeders’ Cup Classic for 3-year-olds and up at 1 π miles on Saturday, Nov. 6 (Race 11, 6:45 p.m. ET, TV: ESPN): Blame (trained by Al Stall Jr.), Espoir City-JPN (Akio Adachi), Etched (Kiaran McLaughlin), First Dude (Dale Romans), Fly Down (Nick Zito), Haynesfield (Steve Asmussen), Lookin At Lucky (Bob Baffert), Morning Line (Nick Zito), Musket Man (Derek Ryan), Quality Road (Todd Pletcher) and Zenyatta (John Shirreffs). Known horses whose connections may be giving the Classic some consideration: Crown of Thorns (Dirt Mile), Gio Ponti (Mile), Gitano Hernando-GB (Turf) and Paddy O’Prado (Turf). Not sure if it tells us anything we don't already know but said I'd post it anyway. Courtesy of the Paulick Report. http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/breeders-cup-fields-begin-to-take-shape-pre-entries-to-be-announced-wednesday/ |
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Behkabad backers hoping for firm ground!
Connections have finally given Workforce the go-ahead to run in the Breeders' Cup Turf at Churchill Downs next month However they have warned they will take out their Investec Derby and Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe hero if the ground in Kentucky is deemed to be too quick. Sir Michael Stoute's charge will be confirmed for the American feature after satisfying connections in a workout on Saturday morning. Lord Grimthorpe, racing manager to owner Prince Khalid Abdullah, said: "Workforce will be confirmed as a runner for the Breeders' Cup Turf on Monday. He will run providing the ground is not too firm." |
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And Midge backers ..
Does Bekhabad like it quick then ? |
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Don't know how firm Behkabad has ever run on, Good is the best according to the RP.
He is bred to like quick ground though so it hopefully wouldn't be a negative. |
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His half brother liked a bog, Behestham (think he's been renamed now). Obviously he's by Cape Cross so can see where you're coming from. Personally I feel the Arc and his trial run will have taken their toll, I like DM because he looks to be coming to the boil at just the right time. Interesting race though, good luck players
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Anyone thinking of backing Lookin at Lucky for the Classic might be best served waiting for a bit. The early morning line I saw had him as 4th choice at 6/1 behind Zenyatta 3/1, Blame 4/1 and Quality Road 5/1.
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Can't believe he's not second favourite.
Deserves to be much shorter than Blame and QR. |
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Why betting suspended on Classic?
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Pre-entries were put in yesterday and won't be announced until tomorrow.
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im a big fan of Girolamo in the Sprint. They have finally worked out that 6f is his trip. He is a huge runner.
Also Uncle Mo will bolt up in the Juvenile. Home and hosed |
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Looks like Master of Hounds might be travelling for the Juv Turf, he's been pre-entered and has been installed as 7/2 fav with a few of the books.
Air Support, Rogue Romance, Pluck, Banned, Biondetti, Deciphering Dreams, Dux Scholar, Madman Diaries, Major Gain, Mantoba, Master Of Hounds, Soldat, Utley, Willcox Inn, Typhoon Slew, Rought Sailing, Silver Medallion, Humble And Hungry |
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Full pre-entries out now
http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/editorial/full_edition.cgi |
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Red Desire seems to have been cut across the board this morning, any particular reason why?
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Went through the Dirt Mile yesterday and agree with andyd08 re: Here Comes Ben.
Looks to have a cracking chance, nothing like 9's still available though so had to take 13/2. |
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Anyone been to the breeders cup or kentucky derby?
Was thinking of going next year with a trip to Vegas.Was wondering about transport to course/were to stay/best value tickets/and how easy is it to get to vegas. Been to vegas a few times so im ok with that part of the trip |
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TJ have you had a chance to look at the Marathon yet?
been going through the yank contenders and i gotta say i not that keen really tempted by the 20s Precision Break rated nigh enough the same as both Muhannak and MOI were before their triumphs loves the aw surface and tracks dirt bred but still this wud be me only worry how he takes to the surface P Cole not had a BC runner since 99 (courteous in the turf) and seems to fancy it thoughts? |
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Not looked yet tbh. Marathon, the 3 Sprints and both Juv Turf races I haven't really gotten round to.
They all seem like hard work! |
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Seen this Peruvian horse going for the Juvenile... Murjan.
Won the Peruvian 2000 Guineas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jecA5HyCTs Doesn't look like they went a great pace and the horse in front just stopped but he must be decent to be beating 3 year olds in a classic! |
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Tav
two more i think could be value and will be having a punt on Allure Damour - juv filly turf Secret Gypsy - f+m sprint both around 20s and with good looking records will check out your peruvian wonderhorse later GL |
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loved the footage of murjan, like a 70's porno!
cant see any angle that we could attack the layers with this one uncle mo looks strong fav to me i wont be punting this peruvian hound to beat it GL |
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lol no me neither. Would have been interesting at a nice price if the front 2 didn't look so good though.
More of an interest story than a betting proposition! Champagne dOro first to interest me in the F&M Sprint. Still need to look at a lot of them still though. |
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Rain forecast for Louisville on Thursday and Friday.
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what is ground currently?
what site you get this info off? |
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I've only been keeping an eye on the BBC 5 day forecasts for the last couple of weeks. Its been fine there for the last couple of weeks, early 20's temps etc and I don't think they've had any rain at all so the ground there should be fast at the moment.
BBC weather is showing light rain and 6-10 degrees temps forecast for Thur and Friday. Might be worth checking other places I suppose. http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/450 |
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Actually there was racing in Churchill Downs yesterday and both tracks were Fast/Firm.
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cheers Tav
excitement Building!! |
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cheers for the Updates Tav.
Dangerous Midge to saunter in on FAST or FIRM ![]() |
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Excitement really starting to build alright!
Think the post draws are tomorrow at 1-2.30 Eastern time which I'm pretty sure makes it 5pm our time (American clocks don't change until Saturday). |
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Where I stand:
Gotta go away on a stag on Friday/Saturday so trying to make most of my plays antepost to avoid the dreaded drunk betting! Classic: Quality Road 1pt 8/1 Lookin at Lucky 1pt at nearly 5/1 Turf: Behkabad 1 pt 4/1 Mile: Sidneys Candy 1 pt 12/1 F&M Turf: Red Desire .5 pt 8/1 e/w 1/4 123 Ladies Classic: Life at Ten .5 pt 6/1 Dirt Mile: Here Comes Ben 1 pt 13/2 Juv Fillies: Tell A Kelly .5pt 10/1 Turf Sprint: Rose Catherine .5 pt 10/1 F&M Sprint: Champagne dOro .5pt 8/1 Juv and Fill Juv Turf: Uncle Mo/Winter Memories double 1 pt at about 9.5/1 Load of other I want to back but probably best to wait for the draws. Jaycito in particular could cause the upset in the Juvenile, and beginning to think that maybe Quality Road might be the one in the Classic. Will definitely be laying Zenyatta too, need to decide if I can get 3 to beat her though. Also considering Plumania e/w in the F&M Turf, throw out the Arc and 10/1 is massive. Marathon is a horrible race with the dirt and lack of form at the trip, think I'll just guess that one! |
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Gio ponti goes for the mile now
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Henry Cecil has been complaining about firmness of the ground, he reckons some turf horses will be forced to pull out unless they increase the watering.
mile looks ultra strong heat now that gio goes GL |
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Tony Calvin says they have had no measurable rain for 2 months. But says they may pit 100,000 gallons on or someting ... politially motvated
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