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Frankel 8-11 fav For Dewhurst.
Frankel 8-11 fav For Dewhurst.
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the heavy rain for 2 hours last night has made this race a lot more difficult imo .
i thought it would have been cut and dried for frankel now im not so sure. |
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I'm in the Frankel camp but hats off to Laura Pike shes on Facebook and has been putting a video up nearly every other day of Dream Ahead and in her last one yesterday she was in the D.A's box and i have to say he looks better then ever. He's looking as cool as a cucumber ready for today and if their is the slightest **** in Frankels armour i think he'll win it...Let the battle commmence.
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Today's Dewhurst could be as good as the race in 1970 featuring Mill Reef, Brigadier Gerard and My Swallow.
On my figures there is only one winner today and that is Frankel. I have him on 118 but projecting to 135 the best for a 2 yr old I think I have ever had since I've been doing sectional projections. I don't have any concerns over C&D or ground so the only fear is that he might have left his race behind on the gallops after apparently doing a stunning run. The other two would look good in an average year and Dream Ahead should finish in front of Saamid but there should be daylight behind Frankel.Is he an odds on chance? Yep, I think he is. Egg on my face awaits me. |
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No bet today and i will just enjoy the race
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can anyone tell me if a horse has stepped up from maiden before to win gp1 at 2yo as prestigious as prix morny.?
i can't although there probably is. |
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Motivator went from maiden to the RPT a few years ago, Armiger did the same a few years before that, those are 2 I can remember.
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High Chapperall won RPT straight from maiden company.
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Good to Soft
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Just the slow side of good judging by the time of the first race, no excuses for anybody.
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Just realised I confused the 1971 2000 Gns with the 1970 Dewhurst - oh well, me memory's not what it was.
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frankel, overated, soft ground form.
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Roderic OConnor 34.44 €45.00 €1,505.00
I got a run. |
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Frankel good but not a level above.
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would fancy roderic to turn the tables at epsom.
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SUPERSTAR .. this horse wins the Guineas and Derby. Bring it on.
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Looking at the replay Roderic O'Connor was coming back to him.
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He would have preferred faster ground but he goes on anything. Queally just said he was a superstar there .. beat him to it
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Still runing as green as grass it went halfway across the track when he pushed him
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cant see that running in the Derby eric.
Far too free does far too much early Henry will keep him to a mile. |
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well done winners. have to say slightly disappointed with the race
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Frankel two months older than the runner up.
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Guineas is his to lose but has zero chance in the Derby based on what I just watched.
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yep after looking forward to that more than any race i can recall just feel a tad deflated it didnt turn into a battle of the big 3 which we all wanted.
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Will go unbeaten next season surely we have another Sea The Stars here. Could be an all-time great given the opportunity sure Cecil will run him in the Derby as there is nothing to touch him at a mile and very likely a mile and a half. His breeding says Derby and he settled well enough though not as well as in the Royal Lodge. HRAC and Franc saying he wont have liked the ground there. More to come lol.
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Runner up had the race run to suit. Frankel won easing up. I would be utterly amazed if the form was reversed over any distance.
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Roderic looked like a baby to me. May improve a lot 2-3.
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the both have quite similar breeding dont they, with RoC bit more stamina?
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Joined: 29 Jun 08 Replies: 133 13 Oct 10 10:44 FRANKEL-STEIN Prima Donna Joined: 29 Apr 09 Replies: 2552 13 Oct 10 11:14 NO CHANCE pauloonI'm sure eric morris would agree FRAKELSTEIN  |
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frankelstein
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ground was all against frankel there will see a different horse in a fast ground guineas.
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Frankel's stride would be more pronounced on faster ground ... he will be better for the ground Classic time next season imo.
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A great performance on the clock but unlikely to improve much, if at all, imo.
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Well, I am not sure how far he won by, but Dream Ahead never did a thing and ran miles below his Morny form leave alone the Middle Park. Saamidd ran okay, and Roderick has cope to improve, but Frankel basically outpaced them all and I am not sure he liked the going all that much.
Value for the 2000 Guineas. I would think that Frankel is a shade more likely to win the Guineas than lose and would say real odds should be 10/11, so anything above 6/4 is fair enough for short odds players. Some bookies are 5/6 already and you can hardly blame them. |
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Still need to see Dunboyne Exprees again he beat Roderic O'Connor 5 lengths on debut.
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I am a Dunboyne Express fan but Roderick must have improved a mile since he got thrashed by that one.
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Bit of an unsatisfactory race imo
Despite winning he pulled awfully hard for the first few furlongs as well as seeing a bit too much daylight on the outside therefore all in all I thought he did well to finish his race the way he did. Dream Ahead didn't run his race and neither did Saamidd though. |
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Not disputing that COT (I suggested Roderic was the intersting horse from the whole line of form in another thread back in July), but to be fair Dunboyne also improved to win a Group 3 by 8 lengths on his next start.
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Roderic is not bred to stay as far as Frankel, his dam is bred for a mile and her dam was fast and produced a number of sprinters.
Of course Roderic may improve a lot, but i don't personally see him as an obvious Derby type on pedigree. |
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Racing Post results
1 Frankel 4/6 Fav 2 Glor Na Mara 2 Roderic O'Connor 25/1 ???????? |
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I don't fancy him for the Derby either - I was enquiring about a Guineas price back in July though[;)]
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