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A very impressive performance from Memory in the Gr.2 Cherry Hinton Stakes has taken her to the top of the two-year-old fillies rankings. Here are the current top rated fillies (with their Racing Post Ratings and form figures):
109 Memory (R.Hannon) -111 107 Maqaasid (J.H.M.Gosden) -11 106 Meow (D.Wachman) -212 105 Ladies Are Forever (G.R.Oldroyd) -13 104 Margot Did (M.L.W.Bell) -112 103 Soraaya (M.R.Channon) -12 102 Hooray (Sir M.Prescott) -183 100 Seeharn (K.Prendergast) -11 100 Keratiya (J-C.Rouget) -121 Memory has been allowed 6lbs for her easy three-quarters of a length victory, but she was probably value for more. The beaten fillies may have been overrated, but the Bolger filly gives the form a solid look. It's interesting to compare her achievements (RPR 109 after three starts) with the form and ratings achieved by some other smart fillies at a similar stage of their careers in recent years: Attraction was rated 116 after four starts (including her impressive win in the Queen Mary) and 117 after five starts (following her win in the Cherry Hinton). Divine Proportions was rated 111 after just two starts (including an easy 4 length win in the Prix du Bois) Damson was rated 110 after three starts (including a 3 length win in the Queen Mary) Flashy Wings was rated 110 after three starts (including a 3 length win in the Queen Mary - the same as Damson) Sander Camillo was rated 116 after three starts (including a 5 length win in the Cherry Hinton) Natagora was rated 104 after three starts (including an easy 4 length win in the Prix la Fleche) and 110 after five starts (including her win in the Prix Robert Papin) Rainbow View was rated 112 after just two starts (including a 6 length win in the Sweet Solera) Cuis Ghaire was rated 105 after two starts (including her win in a Group 3 at Naas) Fantasia was rated 105 after two starts (including the Prestige Stakes) and 110 after three starts Misheer was rated 108 after four starts (including her 3 length win in the Cherry Hinton) Special Duty was rated 115 after just two starts (including her win in the Prix Robert Papin) Lillie Langtry was rated 107 after four starts (including her win in the Debutante Stakes) Lady Of The Desert was rated 105 after three starts (including the Princess Margaret Stakes) and 112 after four starts (including her 3 length win in the Lowther) Memory (RPR 105 after two starts and 109 after three starts) compares quite well with a number of these fillies and is roughly on a par with the likes of Damson and Flashy Wings at this stage of her career. But at 8/1 she's the same price for the Guineas that Rainbow View was after the latter's Sweet Solera win (RPR 112) and a shorter price than Sander Camillo after the latter's Cherry Hinton win (RPR 116). She's also a fair way behind Attraction and Special Duty. But a rating of 109 after three unbeaten starts marks Memory out as a smart filly who will need to improve by only a few more pounds to make an impact in the Guineas next year. Maqaasid (RPR 107 after two starts) is the only other really smart filly we've seen so far this season, but she's unlikely to get a mile (in my opinion). |
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Princess Margaret Stakes preview
Memory's form was boosted today at Sandown by Lily Again (previously 5th in the Cherry Hinton) and Crying Lightening (previously 6th in the Albany Stakes), who finished 1st and 3rd respectively in the Listed Star Stakes. Her position at the head of the 1000 Guineas market may be further strengthened at Ascot on Saturday when her form is tested in the Gr.3 Princess Margaret Stakes. The Princess Margaret Stakes used to be a good race for lightly raced maiden winners but in recent years has tended to be won by fillies that had already contested Listed or Group races. Seven of the last ten winners had previously been beaten in Listed or Group races (or races that now carry Listed or Group status). The three others had won or finished runner-up in maiden races at Grade 1 tracks (Newmarket, Ascot). In the last 22 years, every single winner of the race had either already run in a Listed/Group race or had been a lightly raced maiden winner at a Grade 1 track (the only exception to this broad profile was Saintly Speech, who had won her maiden at lowly Pontefract). This year's renewal of the Princess Margaret Stakes looks quite competitive but is unlikely to throw up a genuine Guineas contender. The three once-raced maiden winners don't look good enough. Al Madina is evidently held in high regard and produced a decent turn of foot to beat the colts in a Carlisle maiden but the form looks very ordinary, she shapes as though a step up to 7f will suit, and she needs to find considerable improvement to figure here. Catfish sprang a surprise to beat the highly touted Ragsah at Newmarket but it looked a substandard maiden for the track (with a 100/1 shot only 4 lengths adrift in 5th) and the winning time was ordinary. She's pretty useful but looks up against it. Perfect Tribute showed a good turn of foot to win a 5f maiden at Salisbury, but the form is nothing special (the runner-up has been beaten twice since, including in a nursery off a mark of 68) and the winning time was ordinary. Serena's Pride narrowly holds Catalinas Diamond on Queen Mary running but is well held by Soraaya and Hooray on subsequent Cherry Hinton form. Catalinas Diamond is still a maiden after four starts and looks outclassed here (despite a respectable 5th at Royal Ascot - narrowly held by Serena's Pride). Sweet Cecily is a much more interesting contender. She was hugely impressive when winning her maiden by 6 lengths at HQ. The well regarded runner-up was beaten again next time (narrowly by Catfish) and the 4th, 5th and 6th have all been beaten since, so she probably didn't beat much (and the winning time was nothing special). She needs to improve again but Richard Hannon likes her a lot and is already thinking about the Lowther. Looking further ahead, she's unlikely to stay a mile (being by 6-7f performer Kodiac out of a 5f winner). Queen Of Spain looked nothing special in her first two starts (though in one of those she finished behind the smart Seeharn) but has gradually progressed and won a modest Naas maiden very easily by 5 lengths last time. Her earlier 7th to Memory in the Albany Stakes leaves her with plenty to find with Margot Did. She holds an entry in the Fillies' Mile and is likely to appreciate a longer trip in due course. Imperialistic Diva and Shoshoni Wind are closely matched on their running behind Khor Sheed in the Empress Stakes. Shoshoni Wind, who got first run at HQ, has since finished a slightly disappointing 6th to Temple Meads in the Super Sprint at Newbury, and I'd expect Imperialistic Diva to reverse the form. Neither looks good enough. The three with the best form credentials are Margot Did, Soraaya and Hooray. They have all finished placed behind Memory in Group races (the Albany and the Cherry Hinton). Hooray finished 8th to Memory at Ascot and is well held by Margot Did on that form, but she was arguably disadvantaged by her draw on that occasion and showed improved form in the Cherry Hinton, where she finished one place behind Soraaya. The lightly raced Margot Did and Soraaya have the best form and deserve to go off favourite and second favourite respectively (just ahead of Hooray). It's hard to see beyond these three and the result will probably represent a further boost to the form of Guineas favourite Memory. |
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margot did easy easy easy easy!
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not the guibeas saturdays race lol
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Laughing Lashes, snaff.
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great call on saturday james with soraaya.
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The one i fancy runnin at Galway tonight
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So much for Mick Channon not being scared of taking on Memory again with Soraaya - she has been taken out of the Moyglare after the first forfeit stage.
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I still think Channon's Fork Handles could make the frame although she may well be a 10-12f 3yo. I do believe she has some class about her though and one to keep on the right side of.
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More clues may emerge this weekend in the Gr.3 Sweet Solera Stakes at Newmarket and the Gr.2 Debutante Stakes at the Curragh. In the meantime, I was very taken by Helleborine's win at Deauville last Saturday: she showed an amazing turn of foot and looks a filly to follow. She's the only one apart from Memory to have really caught my eye so far this season (see separate thread), though there were also impressive maiden wins by Warm Breeze and Theyskens' Theory. The result of the Gr.3 Princess Margaret Stakes merely boosted the form of Memory. Here are the current top-rated (according to Racing Post Ratings):
109 Memory (R.Hannon) -111 107 Maqaasid (J.H.M.Gosden) -11 106 Soraaya (M.R.Channon) -121 106 Meow (D.Wachman) -212 105 Ladies Are Forever (G.R.Oldroyd) -13 105 Margot Did (M.L.W.Bell) -1122 102 Together (A.P.O'Brien) -311 102 Hooray (Sir M.Prescott) -183 102 Wizz Kid (R.Collet) -14 100 Seeharn (K.Prendergast) -11 100 Keratiya (J-C.Rouget) -121 100 Laughing Lashes (J.Harrington) -22 99 Marlinka (R.Charlton) -21011 98 Perfect Tribute (C.G.Cox) -13 98 Lily Again (P.F.I.Cole) -1251 97 Helleborine (C.Head-Maarek) -11 |
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The Gr.3 Sweet Solera Stakes and Gr.2 Debutante Stakes produced solid but unspectacular wins for White Moonstone and Laughing Lashes, who are each available at 25/1 for the Guineas. White Moonstone looks a filly of real potential, though, and she remains unbeaten after just two starts. She showed a very good turn of foot to win her race and kept on strongly to hold off the progressive Crying Lightening. At the Curragh Laughing Lashes comprehensively reversed earlier Gr.3 form with Together (who seemed to run below form) and is clearly on the upgrade. The next big fillies' race will be the Lowther at York next week, with possible leading contenders including the first three home in the Queen Mary (Maqaasid, Meow and Ladies Are Forever) and the first three in the Princess Margaret (Soraaya, Margot Did and Perfect Tribute). Wild Wind (one of Aidan O'Brien's possible Lowther runners) would be an interesting contender: on debut she was narrowly beaten by the useful Seeharn and next time won a 7f maiden from Laughing Lashes.
At this stage Memory fully deserves to be clear favourite for the Guineas, but I have been impressed by White Moonstone and Helleborine. There has been a bit of a move for Theyskens' Theory, a wide margin maiden winner for Brian Meehan, but we'll have a better idea what that form is worth when the runner-up Blue Bunting runs later this week. Here are the latest top-rated fillies (according to Racing Post Ratings). The Cherry Hinton form has been reassessed (up two pounds, moving Memory up to 111), and Laughing Lashes is up to second spot: 111 Memory (R.Hannon) -111 108 Laughing Lashes (J.Harrington) -221 107 Maqaasid (J.H.M.Gosden) -11 106 Soraaya (M.R.Channon) -121 106 Meow (D.Wachman) -212 105 White Moonstone (Saeed Bin Suroor) -11 105 Misty For Me (A.P.O'Brien) -012 105 Ladies Are Forever (G.R.Oldroyd) -13 105 Margot Did (M.L.W.Bell) -1122 104 Pontenuovo (Y.De Nicolay) -21 104 Hooray (Sir M.Prescott) -183 |
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good stuff james,just hope the tendency to hang left of White Moonstone is greeness,dont know what to make of the Debutante form impressed by the winner as she is progressing all the time,but as for Together at present i would have to give her a 'swerve'.
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Blue Bunting certainly didn't let Theyskens' Theory's form down at Donny. She may have been slightly fortunate to win but together with the runner-up she pulled well clear of the third and I suspect both are smart.
Theyskens' Theory put up a very decent performance on the clock as well as on form at Newmarket and she's a serious contender for the Guineas. |
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I'm still undecided about Theyskens' Theory. Blue Bunting, the only filly from TT's maiden to have come out and run since, needed every yard of the mile at Doncaster to get past John Gosden's newcomer, which suggests that she possibly wouldn't have been so effective over 7f on her previous start. She's also sure to have improved from that debut run. Nevertheless, she and the runner-up pulled a long way clear of the remainder and will probably both develop into smart fillies (particularly the runner-up). TT is reportedly being aimed at the Fillies' Mile (a bit of a graveyard for potential Guineas fillies in recent seasons). At this stage I prefer the claims of White Moonstone for the Ascot showpiece, but there is no doubt that TT, who is very closely related to BC Juvenile winner Stevie Wonderboy, is a smart filly.
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The overall time at Doncaster was surprisingly slow and I suspect the first two pulled well clear off a steady early pace. In other words, it was probably more of a test of speed than might have seemed the case.
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Well, it was a new course record, so they weren't hanging about, but I take the point that it was a relatively slow time compared with some of the other races on the card. Blue Bunting has quite a stout pedigree (by Dynaformer out of an unraced full sister to smart stayer Mister Kick, which makes her a half-sister to the hurdler Descaro) and I would expect her to improve as she steps up in distance - she should improve again next year over 10f+. The runner-up Midnight Caller (a Dansili half-sister to Oaks third Midnight Line) should also improve with age and distance. The form has a slightly dubious look to it: 66/1 shot Slight Advantage (previously beaten 27 lengths at Kempton) finished third, the fourth missed the break and got behind before staying on, and another 66/1 shot (previously beaten 19 lengths at Thirsk) was sixth. The runner-up seemed to throw the race away through inexperience and I'd expect her to prove the best long-term prospect from the Doncaster race.
Theyskens' Theory has a lot more speed than any of the fillies we saw in action at Doncaster and is a very interesting prospect. She'd be worth a nibble in the Guineas betting at around 25/1, but at 20/1 I'm leaving her alone for now, until we have a better idea of the shape of the Fillies' Mile. |
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The Lowther burst one Guineas bubble (the doubtful stayer Maqaasid), at least temporarily, and merely served to underline the form of Guineas favourite Memory, who beat the first two home in the Lowther (Hooray and Margot Did) earlier this season. Memory has understandably shortened further in the Guineas betting and is now as short as 5/1 with some firms. The Lowther result also boosted the form of Soraaya, who finished ahead of Hooray in the Cherry Hinton and beat Margot Did in the Princess Margaret Stakes. Soraaya was still available at 33/1 for the Guineas on Friday morning with one firm, but the price disappeared while I was trying to place a bet on her! Soraaya is due to run in the Gr.1 Prix Morny at Deauville on Sunday, where she seems to hold a decent each-way chance if she handles the likely yielding ground. Cheveley Park Stakes entries Keratiya (who beat the subsequent Gr.2 Prix Robert Papin winner Irish Field earlier in the season) and Pontenuovo (runner-up to Helleborine on her debut and winner of the Gr.3 Prix de Cabourg last time out) are also serious contenders for tomorrow's big race. This afternoon the progressive Crying Lightening holds an obvious chance in the Gr.3 Prix du Calvados at Deauville, where she can look to build on her excellent second in the Sweet Solera Stakes last time, but I'll also be looking for a good performance from Militante (placed behind the impressive Helleborine last time over course and distance).
Here are the latest top-rated fillies (according to Racing Post Ratings). I don't agree with the high ratings given to Hooray and Margot Did: with Maqaasid failing to give her running, I reckon the first two didn't need to improve on their earlier ratings, and there's a suspicion that Margot Did could have improved on her finishing position if the gaps had appeared at the right time. There is no earthly reason why Memory should only be rated one pound ahead of Hooray or why Soraaya should be rated below both Hooray and Margot Did (both of whom have finished behind Soraaya in recent outings). For some reason Memory's rating has been dropped by one pound, and the Debutante Stakes form of Laughing Lashes has also been reassessed (up two pounds): 110 Memory (R.Hannon) -111 110 Laughing Lashes (J.Harrington) -221 109 Hooray (Sir M.Prescott) -18361 107 Margot Did (M.L.W.Bell) -11222 107 Misty For Me (A.P.O'Brien) -012 107 Maqaasid (J.H.M.Gosden) -11 106 Soraaya (M.R.Channon) -121 106 Meow (D.Wachman) -212 105 White Moonstone (Saeed Bin Suroor) -11 105 Ladies Are Forever (G.R.Oldroyd) -13 104 Pontenuovo (Y.De Nicolay) -21 |
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Nice perfomance by Theyskens' Theory today.
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There have been two notable movers in the 1000 Guineas market: Theyskens' Theory is in to 12/1 (as short as 8/1 in places) following her comfortable win in the Gr.3 Prestige Stakes this afternoon (16/1 was available with a couple of firms straight after the race), and Criquette Head-Maarek's filly Exemplify (a half-sister to Special Duty), who won the Prix des Marettes at Deauville recently, is around 14/1 following some sustained support (16/1 still available in places at the time of writing). The Prestige form looks a little shaky - the winning time was slow (compared with the 7f handicap on the same card) and the 75-rated Masaya was only beaten 3¼l in fourth - but Brian Meehan's filly won very comfortably and is clearly a very smart prospect. The Fillies' Mile looks to be between Theyskens' Theory, White Moonstone and whatever runs well in tomorrow's Moyglare Stud Stakes at the Curragh. Exemplify is well entered up and could run next in the Gr.3 Prix la Rochette against the colts before a crack at either the Cheveley Park Stakes, the Prix Marcel Boussac or the Prix Jean-Luc Lagardere. Although she won over a mile on her debut Exemplify has more than enough speed for the Cheveley Park (according to her trainer), although my idea of the likely winner of the Cheveley Park at this stage is Yves de Nicolay's filly Pontenuovo (who should eventually get 7f but is a doubtful stayer as far as the Guineas is concerned).
Memory, clear favourite for the Guineas, takes her chance in the Gr.1 Moyglare Stud Stakes at the Curragh tomorrow. The ground should be fine for her, but I'd be a bit concerned about the fact that the stable's juveniles are not quite in such invincible form as they were a few weeks ago, and the step up in trip to 7f against fillies already proven over the distance means that she will have to progress to another level to maintain her unbeaten record. A convincing win would see a further collapse in her Guineas odds, but a defeat (especially if it looks as though she fails to stay 7f) will see a real shake-up in the Guineas market. Her supporters should take heart from the recent interview given by Richard Hannon Jr on Racing Post TV in which he said that she was probably the best two-year-old in the yard (by which I assume he meant that she is rated better than Strong Suit et al). Laughing Lashes is a smart and progressive filly but she will need to improve again to lift the Moyglare. It's anyone's guess which of the Ballydoyle fillies will turn out to be the best. It is a fascinating and potentially very informative renewal. Helleborine, a general 16/1 chance for the Guineas, could run next in the Gr.3 Prix d'Aumale at Longchamp as a prep for the Prix Marcel Boussac on Arc weekend, or she may go straight to the Cheveley Park Stakes over 6f or the Prix Jean-Luc Lagardere (against the colts) over 7f. Pontenuovo, who moved up to 107 in the Racing Post Ratings following her excellent third in the Gr.1 Prix Morny at Deauville, will go next for the Cheveley Park Stakes, while the progressive Mambia (RPR 105 following her victory in the Gr.3 Prix du Calvados) heads for the Prix Marcel Boussac. |
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Theysken's Theory looked a good winner, but Mitchell had tried to run up the inside and I thought that a VERY slight shift in direction effectively closed the door on that challenge, but COCHABAMBA is a very gutsy and determined filly, I wonder how Theysken's would have coped with a challenge from her, the last little filly with lots of guts, was SAOIRE who won the IRISH 1000 gns.
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Everyone is saying that Memory was disappointing today in the Moyglare Stud Stakes, and at first glance that's fair enough, but it would be premature in the extreme to write her off after one poor run. Something seems to be amiss with the Hannon two-year-olds, as several have disappointed recently (notably Strong Suit, Libranno and now Memory). The ground seemed to be loose on top, which certainly wouldn't have helped any of the fillies trying to make up ground from the rear. I think it's significant for the future that the first four fillies all had a hard race: the winner Misty For Me was hit about 12 times with the whip, the runner-up Laughing Lashes was hit at least 8 times (and flashed her tail in response), Kissable and Together were each hit about 10 times. Memory was not hit once by Richard Hughes and that kindness should pay dividends in future, as she simply never had a race today. I'm very tempted to go in now and back Memory at 12/1 for the Guineas, as that's a massive over-reaction by the firm in question; she's 8/1 or 10/1 with other firms. Misty For Me is in to a top price 14/1 for the Guineas, but she doesn't really appeal to me as a Guineas filly - she's by Galileo and looks a real stayer in the making, simply not quick enough to make an impact over a mile next year. She had a hard race today and I wouldn't be in any hurry to back her if she reappears this season.
Theyskens' Theory is now favourite in some books (odds ranging from 6/1 to 10/1). Exemplify has been cut to 12/1 with several firms, all the 16/1 seems to have now gone. At this stage the ones I really like are Memory, Helleborine, Exemplify, Theyskens' Theory and White Moonstone. I'd add Pontenuovo to that list if I thought she would get a mile. |
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Jesus James that's not exactly cutting the field down ! This market is now too confusing for me to punt in and has too many question marks - Memory disappointed today, nobody knows which of Mme Head- Maarek's is the best, I don't think Theyskens Theory is a Group 1 miler and everything beaten by Memory which has gone on to Group glory looks like a sprinter.
I like the look of White Moonstone who I think is better than the bare result of the Sweet Solera and seems flexible as to ground conditions but you can't back a Godolphin horse ante post with confidence and Crying Lightening let the form down in France. At 12/1 the field I would leave well alone until the Group 1 Autumn races come along. |
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Theyskins Theory didn't look to have the pace of a Guineas winner for me. Memory may not be best at a mile and the only one that interests me may not go there. Holding fire as with the pathetic effect of the draw at Newmarket with rain the best horse may only have. 50:50 chance of being in the shake up let alone winning. Strong Suit 35s may be worth the risk but not sure on these short fillies prices.
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Agree with you not writing off Memory James. I have made good money in the past on horses being shoved out in the Guineas betting on the strength of one poor performace - Cape Verdi and Harayir getting beat in the Cheveley spring to mind.
However, I am not sure Memory fits into the same bracket - she was just so flat and disappointing today not withstanding the excuses. Maybe she is just an early season six furlong ( albeit very good) filly ?? |
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I like an ante post flutter and even i'm not tempted by any prices just now. I have an overwhelming feeling that absolutely nothing will look remotely like value until the season is over and everything can be assessed in hindsight. Good write ups though James as usual. Taking prices as early as some might have means you also have to incorporate the prices they will be for each of their individual races still to run this season. For example, if you took 8/1 for memory for the guineas you have to remember that she still has races to run, and even if she wins them you are getting a rotter of a price.
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It all depends on your approach to ante-post betting on these events, but I like to have half a dozen or more horses on my side in the Guineas races. At this time last year I fancied (and had backed) Special Duty, Seta, Lady Of The Desert, Lillie Langtry and a couple of others that never made the grade. Most winners of the 1000 Guineas made an impact by late August of their two-year-old season. A few did not appear until early September (eg Salsabil, Hatoof, Virginia Waters); Sleepytime did not have her first race until 18 September, Ghanaati debuted on 22 September, and Lahan did not appear until 2 October. So the chances are that next year's Guineas winner has already made an impact and has won at least one race already. If they haven't appeared by the middle of September the statistics suggest that they're most unlikely to win the Guineas.
At current odds, I think that Theyskens' Theory is way too short (even at 10/1), but I've already backed her at 25s. There is no longer any value in the Head-Maarek pair Helleborine and Exemplify, both of whom I have also backed at bigger prices. Memory was too short at around 5/1 and is now looking quite tempting at 12/1 (provided there were genuine excuses for her performance today): she was hugely impressive in her two previous starts and I'm prepared to give her another chance. White Moonstone looks overpriced at 25/1 but faces much sterner tests than the one she faced in the Sweet Solera. I don't fancy any of the first four home in the Moyglare. |
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Interesting point you make about the Whip use James.
At the moment this is looking like a day of the race market with the skinny prices avaiable. |
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white moonstone seems overpriced. the meehan horse was impressive also.
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It's not often that one sees three performances in the space of just over 24 hours that elicit the simple response 'WOW', but that's exactly what happened on Thursday and Friday.
First up, a sensational performance from Freddie Head's filly Moonlight Cloud in a 7f conditions race at Longchamp, which had to be seen to be believed. She simply oozed class, cantering all over her rivals before quickening away in an instant, eased down to win impressively by 6 lengths. The form probably doesn't amount to a great deal, with the second, third and fifth all making their debuts, and the fourth Uldiko with prior form figures of 8657616586 (well beaten in Listed contests, including tailed-off last of eight behind Mambia on penultimate start). But the winner showed a lot of speed and a superb turn of foot and won very easily indeed. She looks a very smart filly. I was so taken by the performance that I backed her speculatively for the Guineas (I was quoted prices ranging from 12/1 to 40/1), though there have to be doubts about her participation at this stage. Although she's by Invincible Spirit I think she'll get a mile: her half-brother Cedar Mountain (by Galileo) was a useful 12-14f winner and her half-sister Lakuta (by Pivotal) won over 9-10f; her dam Ventura (by Spectrum out of a half-sister to Generous and Imagine) won twice over a mile. She's now unbeaten in two starts and probably heads next for the Gr.1 Prix Jean-Luc Lagardere, where she will surely give the colts plenty to think about. Freddie Head considers her to be possibly the best two-year-old he has ever trained. Half an hour later, Helleborine pulverised her rivals in the Gr.3 Prix d'Aumale. They went no pace for the first six furlongs, with Helleborine held up in last place, travelling easily. The leaders started to quicken entering the straight, Helleborine came there travelling strongly, quickened impressively under hands and heels and soon put daylight between herself and the others to win easily by 5 lengths. The winning time was very slow, reflecting the slow early pace, but it was still 3.4 seconds faster than the Prix de la Masseliere (run over the same course and distance half an hour later). Straight after the race her Guineas odds ranged from 8/1 to 16/1 (the latter price reflecting the slowness of some bookmakers to revise their prices). She heads to the Gr.1 Prix Marcel Boussac with a favourite's chance. Just 24 hours later White Moonstone was a very impressive winner of the Gr.2 May Hill Stakes at Doncaster. Previously unbeaten in two starts (including the Gr.3 Sweet Solera Stakes at Newmarket), White Moonstone didn't need to improve on her Newmarket form to win easily, with the only possible danger Midnight Caller failing to live up to expectations, but she was much more impressive this time, showing plenty of speed and very good acceleration to put plenty of lengths between herself and the opposition, before being eased down to win by 5 lengths. There is plenty of speed on the dam's side of the family (the dam Desert Gold is by Seeking The Gold out of a full sister to the Breeders' Cup Sprint winner Desert Stormer) and Godolphin view her as a Guineas filly rather than an Oaks prospect. The 12/1 available with one major firm for the Guineas looks good value. So where does this leave the market for the 1000 Guineas? Moonlight Cloud is far from certain to be aimed at the Guineas and is not generally quoted for the race. Helleborine has shortened from 16/1 to a best price 12/1 (as short as 8/1 with two major firms). White Moonstone is now as short as 6/1 favourite, but a stand-out 12/1 with one major firm. Exemplify, well beaten at Longchamp on Thursday in a conditions race, was a general 12/1 shot but is no longer quoted by some firms and is unlikely to run again this season. Theyskens' Theory, the Prestige winner, is a top price 10/1 and Misty For Me, the Moyglare winner, and Memory are both available at 12/1. So by shopping around you can get 10/1 the field. At this stage the two that have impressed me most are Helleborine and White Moonstone. Both have won impressively over a mile in pattern company against useful opposition and will probably run once more this season - Helleborine in the Prix Marcel Boussac and White Moonstone in the Fillies' Mile, where each will take plenty of beating. Memory is well worth another chance after her disappointing showing in the Moyglare and should not be underestimated in the Cheveley Park Stakes, where Hooray and Pontenuovo are her main rivals. At current odds Theyskens' Theory does not appeal at 10/1: it's a very skinny price based on what she has actually achieved. Misty For Me is clearly a very useful filly but it didn't look a vintage renewal of the Moyglare Stud Stakes, with less than two lengths covering the first four (all of whom appeared to have a hard race), so she doesn't particularly appeal at 12/1. Here are the latest top-rated fillies (according to Racing Post Ratings): 113 Hooray (Sir M.Prescott) -183611 113 Misty For Me (A.P.O'Brien) -0121 111 Memory (R.Hannon) -1116 110 White Moonstone (Saeed Bin Suroor) -111 110 Laughing Lashes (J.Harrington) -2212 109 Kissable (K.Prendergast) -2133 108 Together (A.P.O'Brien) -31134 108 Margot Did (M.L.W.Bell) -11222 107 Helleborine (C.Head-Maarek) -111 107 Pontenuovo (Y.De Nicolay) -213 107 Maqaasid (J.H.M.Gosden) -114 106 Dingle View (P.D.Evans) -4113131 106 Soraaya (M.R.Channon) -1218 106 Meow (D.Wachman) -21210 105 Theyskens' Theory (B.J.Meehan) -911 105 Mambia (J.Boisnard) -421111 105 Ladies Are Forever (G.R.Oldroyd) -13 Hooray, comfortably held by Memory on Cherry Hinton form, looks significantly overrated on 113: the Sirenia Stakes form looks very dubious and cannot sensibly be rated any higher than about 100. I suspect that the Moyglare Stud Stakes form of Misty For Me, Laughing Lashes, Kissable and Together has also been overrated. |
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It looks a fascinating and high-class renewal of the Fillies' Mile next Saturday and it should have a significant bearing on the 1000 Guineas picture (even though in recent years the Ascot race has not been a great guide to the first fillies' classic). Just seven of the original entries stood their ground this morning, plus one supplementary entry:
Date With Destiny, Fork Handles, Misty For Me, Theyskens' Theory, Together, Traffic Sister, White Moonstone (suppl.), Wild Wind Three of the first five in the Guineas betting (Misty For Me, Theyskens' Theory and White Moonstone) are set to run. White Moonstone was very impressive last time in the May Hill (a key trial for this race) and will take all the beating: she looks sure to go off a warm favourite. I find it hard to split Misty For Me and Theyskens' Theory: Misty For Me has arguably stronger form claims but seemed to have quite a hard race in the Moyglare last time, whereas Theyskens' Theory had a much easier race in the Prestige Stakes at Goodwood. Form lines involving Khor Sheed, Masaya and Sonning Rose suggest that Brian Meehan's filly has quite a bit to find with White Moonstone, but she is open to plenty of improvement and will appreciate better ground than she encountered at Goodwood. Of the others, I wouldn't completely rule out Date With Destiny, who clearly failed to handle the ground at Goodwood last time and had been quite impressive when winning on debut at Newbury. A prominent show from her would represent a big boost for supporters of stablemate Memory, who is considered the best filly in the yard. Fork Handles has been crying out for this longer trip and ran respectably in France last time behind the smart filly Mambia (ran on well without troubling leaders), but on all known form she looks outclassed here. Together and Wild Wind are both held by Misty For Me on Moyglare running: of the pair, Together has much the stronger claims (she finished five lengths in front of Wild Wind) and it will be interesting to see whether Murtagh sticks with Together (as he did in the Moyglare, despite the fact that the filly had been beaten by Misty For Me in the Debutante previously) or switches to the Moyglare winner (assuming that both run). Traffic Sister is completely out of her depth (beaten in an ordinary maiden at Lingfield last time). Assuming that all eight run, I would expect the race to be priced up something like this: 7/4 White Moonstone, 11/4 Theyskens' Theory, 7/2 Misty For Me, 11/2 Together, 14 Date With Destiny, 16 Fork Handles, 20 Wild Wind, 100 Traffic Sister (119%). |
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Did you see the debut victory of Alanza - John Oxx / Aga Khan at Listowel last Monday?
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I was thinking White Moonstone would be odds-on!
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Well she looked impressive, but I suspect that Alanza was flattered a bit: it looked a classic case of the leaders going off too fast in testing ground. Also, the Listowel form is only moderate: the third had been beaten twice at Tipperary (with Racing Post Ratings in the low 60's). Having said that, the winner is clearly a very promising filly who is bred to do even better over a mile (being by Dubai Destination out of Guineas-placed Alasha) - she holds an entry in next year's Irish Guineas. The bare form is nothing special, but she is definitely one to watch out for. It will be interesting to see whether John Oxx decides to enter her in the CL Weld Park Stakes at the weekend.
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sintonian, I'll be surprised if White Moonstone is odds-on, but she could well be shorter than 7/4. On official ratings there's nothing between White Moonstone (111) and Misty For Me (111), with Together (108) next best, ahead of Thesykens' Theory (103). I think that Meehan's filly will be a shorter price than her official rating merits.
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I cant see her being 7/4 with a string of ones next to her name. Looks a good race.
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I will take the 7/4 all day, 11/10 would be my idea of sp. I think she will take this en route to Guineas glory
. I took the remaining 12/1 and 14 on here last week and can't wait for Saturday |
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I'm 100% with you on White Moonstone for the Guineas and I'm hoping that she wins comfortably on Saturday. I'm not saying I would lay the 7/4: the prices are my idea of what the odds should be, but it will be no surprise to see White Moonstone as short as 5/4 or even 11/10. If she is poor value for Saturday's race I will consider back something else for the race, purely on a value angle, depending on whether anything else looks significantly overpriced. Considering that White Moonstone, Theyskens' Theory and Misty For Me can all be backed at around 10/1 for the Guineas, I doubt whether WM will be too skinny a price.
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No offence like but where did Ghanaati feature on Racing Post Ratings?
There hasn't been any Special Duty around this year yet but right now, TT respected but I reckon I Love Me could surprise everything mentioned so far... 2011 is wide open in my book. |
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I'm not ruling out another Ghanaati scenario, but it's extremely unusual for a 1000 Guineas winner not to have competed in at least one Group race as a juvenile. I agree that at this stage it's an open-looking Guineas, but obviously that could all change in the next two weeks, with the key trial races - the Fillies' Mile, Cheveley Park Stakes and Prix Marcel Boussac - fast approaching.
I Love Me is a promising filly, but the form of her win the other day is no better than that of an average Newmarket maiden race in my opinion. |
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Well, clearly someone thinks that White Moonstone is a good thing for the Fillies' Mile - I have been laying her on here at 2.00 (evens)!
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