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trev w
01 May 10 16:37
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no stands outs for me atm....workforce maybe..

only bet for me so far is zeitoper @ big prices on here...

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By:
nibbledat
When: 01 May 10 16:37
noddies way
By:
Teddy Sheringham
When: 01 May 10 16:39
mikeal glinka depending how much he improves in one of the derby trails

fencing master ran an ok race today over an inedequate trip
By:
top3 makin ahern and de souza
When: 01 May 10 16:39
st nicholas abbey
By:
rhinestone
When: 01 May 10 16:40
I was thinking that trev :^0
By:
TD_Gunner
When: 01 May 10 16:40
Azmeel
By:
trev w
When: 01 May 10 16:41
:^0 looks a **g mess to me...
By:
Fran Merida
When: 01 May 10 16:42
Address Unknown ;)
By:
bosra shame
When: 01 May 10 16:42
Keeping the faith with SNA. Ran a great Derby trial when he will come into his own over 12f
By:
Fran Merida
When: 01 May 10 16:42
Chabal intersting too,innit, imo.
By:
BJG
When: 01 May 10 16:42
St Nicholas Abbey B-)
By:
TD_Gunner
When: 01 May 10 16:43
Azmeel reverses the form Fran :)
By:
ben10
When: 01 May 10 16:44
Not sure how he does that, Chabal my early pick
By:
Fran Merida
When: 01 May 10 16:45
He looks a bit overrated to me Gun. Much rather Coordinated Cut ahead of him but CHABAL look like his namesake a bit now,imo.
By:
trev w
When: 01 May 10 16:46
had a few bob on desert myth....form ties in with gunnys pic....entered up @ chester ( kris kin :x )
By:
ben10
When: 01 May 10 16:46
What about Al Zarooni's Godolphin one trev, or you gone off him?
By:
trev w
When: 01 May 10 16:47
ben he's at the top of the thread :^0
By:
TD_Gunner
When: 01 May 10 16:48
this is only a speculative view as he's probably not going to actually win the Epsom Derby, but he's a bit of a favourite of mine.

Azmeel did drift in the market before the race quite alarmingly, suggesting he needed the run badly, ran that way too and did travel well into it, before Chabal (very well backed and revved up to go (imo) ) got first run and quickened past. Azmeel not knocked about and only got 2 lengths to find.

It's not impossible! :)

Think he runs at Chester so see how it goes.
By:
TD_Gunner
When: 01 May 10 16:48
overrated, what makes u say that? i havent seen anywon other than me mention him! lol
By:
Fran Merida
When: 01 May 10 16:49
wasn't that impressed with his Newbury wins,that's all.
By:
REM
When: 01 May 10 16:50
Sadbrokes swerving APOB's Jan Vermeer, Cape Blanco & Midas Touch (big time). I suspect Jan Vemeer will be heading to France. Cape Blanco looks more of a St Leger type on pedigree. Midas Touch, who was fancied to beat JV when they went to France as 2yos could be the value if that was a blip?
By:
ben10
When: 01 May 10 16:51
Sorry Trev, got a serious headache today, not really with it :|
By:
downallstar
When: 01 May 10 16:51
Cape Blanco B-)
By:
PLASTIC PADDY
When: 01 May 10 16:54
I like Chabal too
By:
TD_Gunner
When: 01 May 10 16:57
got absoultely no idea if he'll end up at Epsom, but Flying Cross is a Ballydoyle colt im looking forward to seeing, should win some decent races
By:
ben10
When: 01 May 10 17:02
Sure they'll be exploring all options now gunny :p
By:
TD_Gunner
When: 01 May 10 17:03
yeah, not sure what to make of SNA, although I always like Guineas form for the Derby. Other than SNA who can we take from the race for the Derby iyo's ?
By:
enjbenjy
When: 01 May 10 17:14
I don't think there is anyone else to take out of the Guineas.
By:
GRIZLY
When: 01 May 10 17:19
captain james cook is an interesting horse for the irish derby
By:
Far From Trouble
When: 01 May 10 17:20
Not a fkn clue
By:
the lay preacher
When: 01 May 10 23:29
st nicholas will not be beaten again this season .
ran the sort of race i expected.
nailed on for derby with a 6 inch nail.
By:
redal2
When: 01 May 10 23:31
TD, you don't think Flying Cross hits the ground very hard? I think he looks too ungainly for Epsom?
By:
Boxman
When: 03 May 10 09:20
Cape Blanco (25/1) on fast ground - he will gallop them into submission

Apparently being aimed at the Dante for his reintroduction and won the Futurity Stakes in ireland last year which had previously been won by exciting 2YO's such as New Approach and Hawk Wing in recent years

Note Laddies only go 12's!!!
By:
Benjy
When: 03 May 10 10:48
Zeitoper is my only bet atm as well. Haven't seen them mention him this year at all though. :(
By:
TD_Gunner
When: 03 May 10 11:02
yeah, you could be right redal. Only two i've backed so far are Azmeel and Mikhail Glinka.

Benjy, Zeitoper entered at Chester.
By:
Shark12
When: 03 May 10 11:11
Zeitoper interests me. Benjy this is a quote from the Godolphin website:

Simon Crisford also outlined plans for Godolphins other potential Investec Derby runners, adding: "I think that Ameer will go to Italy for the Italian Derby and we will see how he does there.

"We also have a very nice horse, Zeitoper, with Mahmood Al Zarooni and we will see how he gets on in the Lingfield Derby Trial (May 8) if he runs there, or one of the mile and a half trials.
By:
Benjy
When: 03 May 10 11:13
Cheers.

Not sure about the Chester Vase though if that is the target.
By:
FatoteSport
When: 03 May 10 12:34
Ameer's price dropped though the floor a couple of days ago
By:
Howellsy
When: 03 May 10 13:43
I've been using trends for the past 2 years. The first 2 home last year and the first 3 home the year before all fitted the trends well. The trends go back 17 years.

Purely on trends, and considering the entered horses only, these are the candidates:

Burj Nahar
Cape Blanco
Flying CRoss
Jan Vermeer
Multames
Treasure Town
Zeitoper

That's it. Obviously, some of these will prove useless, but in terms of juvenile form, the key trend is to have run between 1 and 3 times, winning on the most recent start.
Another very strong trend , not infallible, but very convincing, is that Derby winners hardly ever lose after winning maiden. Maybe they lose to one horse, especially in the Guineas, but that's more or less it.
Others who do not really fit the trends as well but could just about be considered, are

Chabal
Co-ordinated Cut
Joshua Tree
St Nicholas Abbey
Rain Forest
Powerful Melody

The one that stands out to me - purely on trends - is Cape Blanco. 7 furlong winner at 2. However, this year we could have a sub standard race, so the winner might not have to be quite as good. I wouldn't rule out SNA yet.
By:
turnip turns
When: 03 May 10 15:04
Is Elusive Pimpers entered in the Derby peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze ? ;\l
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