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2016 Irish Derby
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Skywalker Manner @ 9/4 (was too big, made him slight fav ahead of the 2)
Coolykereen Jack (nap) @ 10/3 last night (this was an absolutely huge rick for me, won't give my reasons as some may be upset by what i say) Coolavanny Pat @ 8s, 7s, 6s (again looked too big, was up Keplar Nine's ass on the corner last week after a moderate break and lost what he was beatn around the opening bends) Sonic @ 13/8, 6/4 (3 and 4 going left, 6 slow up. Am puzzled how people think he has a bad draw. Worst case scenario surely Ela Alecko leads around and Sonic will destroy him from halfway home) Holycross Leah @ 9/2 (way too big, has a big chance to lead around on the fence this week and crucially in front of the 5, if she does she won't be back run) Ballymac Belle @ 4/5 or bigger (she runs anything like she did during the Derby she will not be beaten) hope i ain't tempting fate putting them up here |
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gl PF, you going tonight as usual?
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aye i'll be there, giving Leopardstown a miss as too much hassle doing both with the time frame
i probably should have saved Ela Alecko at the 20s on the draw |
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have a good m8 night gl
i'll ask Neil to text you if ok, i'm after same thing as last week although don't really want her winning tonight, maybe next saturday instead  |
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aye no problem, Ian will send it to me and i will pass it on
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your a gent much appreciated
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Think Sidarian Pearl could be Derby heroine this year and hopefully make the final well worthwhile, topped up at a decent 8/1. Would be happy with Ballymac Matt, too. Gyp Rosetti okay. Anything else not very good
My two tonight, Skywalker Manner and B*ylesports Duke Good luck! |
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sure if ballymac pings he wins 4/1 plus massive
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Sober call disgraced himself there.
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Christ Almighty!! Could they not have left it at Dolores and Canning. Why they have that other waste of space on the panel is beyond me!
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Sonic is 5/5 on the betting show.
 Pretty hopeless production.Dolores must want to smash the other two's heads together. |
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5-6-3 result.
Sonic skates in after a fast start, three good qualifiers for the final. |
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Draw
Leah Pearl Matt Sonic Escapism Hawaii |
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Seems B*yles will be going 5/4 Sonic
Looks on the cards Sidarian Pearl will break better from T2 and hopeful she'll lead up the other inside runners. Could still be a profitable Derby after all. Don't give much chance to Ballymac Matt, every chance last night and nowhere near Sonic. If Sonic not away in best style, Matt could hold him up though, leaving Pearl to master Rural Hawaii, who has a dream draw and every chance of winning the Derby but may throw it away running wide final bend. Holycross Leah and Escapism have reached the final on merit but think need things to go their way |
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Woody's early tissue:
Evs Sonic 11/4 Hawaii 5/1 Escapism 13/2 Leah 8/1 Pearl 10/1 Matt 127% |
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Powers up
Holycross 5/1 Siderian Pearl 10/3 Ballymac 10/1 Sonic 6/4 Escapism 12/1 Rural 10/3 |
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The Hedgehog
 how in gods fkin name did that horrible pig Duke ping tonight  |
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Can I play your tissue Woody ?
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Hope they're right with Sidarian Pearl. Much better drawn but still every chance finishing, finishing 6.5 lengths behind Rural Hawaii in the semis and will be hard to turn the tables. Too short, imo. Again, cant see how Holycross Leah turns the tables on Hawaii, too short. Don't see how Escapism can be 12/1 when clocking only a head slower time than Hawaii.
Couldn't afford any liability PF, but what dya like? |
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Power went only 6/1 Escapism before the semis!
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woodmanchester • September 10, 2016 9:30 PM BST
Blah, Blah, Blah Could still be a profitable Derby after all Blah, Blah, Blah. |
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Danny went 9/4 Sonic
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Not easy for Sonic to clear the 3 inside runners at the bend. Was hoping for a better effort from Sidarian Pearl in the semis. Just feel she may have already peaked now. The one I'm liking now is 4/1 Rural Hawaii. Every chance to do his running. Very hopeful if far enough in front before swinging excessively wide off the last bend
Yes Safari, glad youre having a good laugh but when ive finished backing Hawaii it will obviously be for profit and you can blah blah blah to everyone you got egg on yer face, as usual |
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Oh please put up one of your calculation threads that captures all your Irish Derby selections showing how you will still be the AP King. Its a lovely day and that will go down a treat.
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Did that for Steel City Cup but you don't believe black and white, you Doubting Thomas
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Plethora of bets there too but what was it in the end? Either Mossjoe or Mata for profit
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£160 staked on Irish derby. Hawaii or Pearl return more than that
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The 2 bitches are the wrong way around, i am totally convinced of this. Last night drawn 2 and 5 they managed to impede each other slightly on the run up as Leah edged off and Pearl edged inwards. If they where drawn the other way around Pearl would surely be a lot shorter, she of course can still win but she will have to beat Leah at boxes for me if she is to win as she must lead.
If Sonic does come away as he has being his last 3 runs the only one inside you'd be worried for him clearing would be Sidarian Pearl, he has already shown he can easily clear Ballymac Matt, he cleared him in the 1/4 final when Matt got the better start. Once clearing the inside his only other problem lies with Rural Hawaii on the corner, if Hawaii does lead him and cut the corner ala that 1/4 final Sonic just needs to avoid him as the 1/4 final showed he can back run him. Think he has been magnificent this Derby and while i may be biased think he deserves to win the competition. Rural Hawaii has a smashing draw and is a wee bit big @ 4s, will have to lead but is drawn too. |
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PF, agree Sonic deserves to win it on what's been seen so far but think Hawaii improving and if Sonic held up slightly, 4/1 Hawaii big with his guaranteed clear
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High, wide and handsome - just like Laughil Blake!
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I have 10e/w 1st 6 at 66/1 on Sonic with bet365, thay have offered me a cash out of 354e, on the e/w alone im Guaranteed 175e. If Sonic wins the pay out is 844e, which way would you go lads?
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Let it run Frank nice bet
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if you can take the loss then must keep the bet
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Thats my thinking as well CASE.
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Made him a 13/8 shot to 100% and he is 4.74 at the moment on here so i won't be doing any business
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*2.74*
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if sonic definetly runs then you are being offered 179e against a potential profit of an additional 669e which is effectively laying bet365 the bet at 11/4.........the dog will probably go off 6/4 or lower so if you want to cash out lay the dog on here and get more for your money.....well done with the bet frank.....
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Thanks lads, i have 50 on matt as well at 10/1 since the 3rd rd, he is the same price to win the final, to be honest i think he is the only dog in the Final that has no chance.
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You could possibly consider a partial cashout, Frank but with your each-way insurance, I too would be inclined to let it ride
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1 Consistent but not won a round, travesty if she's successful
2 Claims at best with flier, but below par in semis 3 Defending champion but very hard finding 5 lengths with T4 4 Only defeat opening round, faultless since and worthy favourite 5 Lacks early zest, likely to arrive on the scene too late 6 Only defeat behind Sonic but drawn for a huge run |