Wouldn't say 29.90 is exactly flying but seems very slow conditions, rated -30

Are they Sidarian Blaze, Madison, Redwood Mick and Holborn Junior, PF?

Farloe Nutter, moved from Barrie Draper to Pat Buckley, entered

Yeah, rings a bell but still in betting and not gonna read about 100 posts on a thread over and over again ffs yourself! . 42/1 Blaze on here makes me wonder about him. Yeah, don't fancy Nutter but a point of interest

Madison was retired injured weeks ago (was bloody injured when he ran that night behind Fifo at Dundalk as he could not run a bend)

Mick is out i was told and Blaze i was told was a big doubt (was also told Vanrooney by the same person before he was pulled)

Holborn Junior i have no idea

It's poor Wonders, really poor year

yes Woody if the favourite wins and does the clock that makes it an exceptional Derby


to change an old saying: if you've nothing sensible to say don't say anything at all

Ardfert Tee Jay 28.64

Colmcille Olly 30.40

Nidge didn't turn up

will probably trial him Saturday night then (if not i would worry yes), there is no Wednesday night this year for round 1 so Thursday is the earliest he could be running

lesports Hero turned up at Shelbourne last night for a trial over the Derby distance of 550 yards and he clocked a fastest 29.90 on a track rated at .30 slow.

The other 550 trials were:
30.21 Baliff Turbo
30.51 Ghost Town
30.78 Baliff Hawk
30.79 Norristown Bud

Scottish Derby winner Holdem Spy made a very satisfactory return from injury when clocking 28.76 (.30 slow) for the 525 yards and other trial times over the distance were:
28.81 Holdem Hawk
28.82 Homeless Boy
29.01 Jackal Phantom
29.02 Swithins Way
29.16 Farloe Nutter
29.28 Jims Blessing
29.33 Headman Chris, Lagganmore Milan.

Dont see how the track could poss be 30 slow for trials if the races were Normal 10 mins later! Staggering

PF, it's all about the winner, wouldn't you say? I only want to see a great champion. Nidge can beat the rubbish contenders 10 lengths every round for all I care. Anyway, don't think it's as poor as you make out. Still some good dogs due. Okay, Vic, Kereight, Spy and Sugar Ray getting no younger but still top class. Wont know for sure until the doubts about some dogs are clarified though. Looking forward to B*ylesports, Mind The Net, Pennys, Silva, Buck, Fiery, Norris, Ward, Borneo and Vans? So many other probables, too. Would like to see Exocet take his chance. All to play for.

Might agree with your saying poor Irish Derby seeing as Skywalker Farloe so near the top!

no idea what you're on about Irish, when ya sober up ask again

if it's Emers Superstar ask BJG, he was my idea of a likely Derby winner earlier in the year but has been running like an utter pig until getting dropped well in grade last time

there where big names in it but it has fallen apart before they got to traps

Ballymac Vic was carrying an injury and was the wrong side of Sugar Ray
Tyrur Sugar Ray had a rotten draw in hindsight, actually thought it wasn't that bad at the time
Carrowgarrif had very little hope
Kereight King was a NR
Cabra Buck as consistant as he was last year was really only a 29.80 .70max dog on the bunny
Slippery Robert had an absolutely dream draw and always had that massive run in him if getting away decent at boxes


so no I would not say last years final was any great shakes due to circumstances

They're the wrong aide of 4 now Woody, Sugar Ray had a huge amount of racing / trials last year yet will probably still make this Derby final. Redwood Mick takes nothing away from not being in the Derby, the way he was running around Shelbourne he'd have been in A2s soon anyway. You can look forward to it but myself, other regulars (for donkey years), the bookmakers, Shelbourne staff etc...
. will all tell you this years Derby is poor

Halfway down, it's poor the whole way down, you've a dog that's hardly bloody raced in 2 years (not raced in the last year) as he was injured and riding bitches as short as 25/1. You're deluding yourself if you think this Derby is good, as least the Good News Man will agree with you

I know you wouldn't, the dogs you want get there and you win money you'll say great Derby, the dogs you don't want get to the final and you lose money you'll say rubbish Derby

Nidge going straight to the Derby now, hmmmmmmm, what to believe

They're always bouncing Woody according to talkingdogs


OK Woody, it's the best fkin Derby ever!! Filled with quality the whole way through, makes all those derbies the last 10-12 years look like they where full of scrubbers

Supermac could well win the Derby, in fact I think he will go very close, he is massive at 50s if you can get on.

Wolf has no chance unless he can get 1 every night, should have put him under the care of C. Lister, he may have then.

Vulturi ran a screamer on his comeback behind Mind The Net but I can't play him at the price, no juice in it for me.