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Irish Greyhound Derby - Outright Odds
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vic looking good mind you I though that at this stage in the english
 how he aint won the english is a mystery ..Spy ew bettors looking good KK doing nothing wrong Jet ran a huge race tonight Madison was devoid ,very disapointing and lucky to qualify |
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Metro John .. notice we are still there with Foxtrot. Two rounds to go before collecting. If only ..
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Q4 = the draw of death
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Jet wearing stripes! How on earth does he get round Borna Gem? Agree about Madison, draw against him in red-hot heat. Stays though, better break and everything crossed he just qualifies. Yes, Vic looking good and also, hopeful with Adler. Weak 3rd quarter-final
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According to Talking Dogs, heats 2 and 3 of the Quarters are the other way round?
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When does the Plate start?
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Cabra Buck done me proud in this competition,everything I thought he could be,massive early and probably holds a little bit backTto have Foxtrot drawn next door in the same heat a nightmare,but fantastic comp,with just a few more youngsters now catching the eye,both Westmeads.
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Had a little 9/1 top-up Madison. Risky but if qualifying and polishing up starting, could be a warm order for the final.
Also, like 54/1 Melodys Diamond. Not the smoothest run but still nearly caught Borna Gem |
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Woodmanchester, P.F. wrote on his weekend write up that Melodys Diamond had come in season last week , so that will be totally against her if they decide to let her run next Saturday, You can get away with if for about 4 to 5 days , after coming in season, but they usually go backwards ,after that .
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q4 is a cracker ..q3 is a bit of a joke in Comparison.
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ETS IRISH DERBY DRAW
HEAT 1 1 Droopys Adler 2 Ballymac Vic 3 Fairhill Paddy 4 Hot Pursuit 5 Ballyana Foxtrot (m) 6 Cabra Buck (m) HEAT 2 1 Hawaii Kinsale 2 Carrowgarriff 3 Fridays Carroll 4 El Flutter (m) 5 Slippery Sooty (m) 6 Holdem Spy (w) HEAT 3 1 Holycross Gerry 2 Isabels Boy 3 Melodys Diamond 4 Nothing Simple 5 Borna Gem 6 Droopys Jet HEAT 4 1 Tyrur Sugar Ray 2 Glenanore Dancer 3 Kereight King 4 Paradise Madison 5 Ringtown Snowy 6 Slippery Robert (w) This is the heats format as per the Irish Greyhound Website . maybe this is stop confusion over the heat 2 and heat 3 as previously shown on this thread, Cheers , |
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irishone • August 25, 2013 7:53 AM BST
Q4 = the draw of death. The vagaries of a random draw with only 3 wides left in of 24 dogs!. Five of the fastest to the 3/4 in the same quarter final meaning at least one very good dog will go out ( maybe more ) whilst other less fancied dogs will progress from less competitive heats. Holdem Spy looks like trotting up in his while Vic gets another outstanding opportunity to progress. Only three wide runners left in - what an advantage to them. Heat 2 is a nonsense but landed upon us because of the shortage of seeded wides making it to the Qrtr stage. |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFRUJ0CCusY&feature=c4-overview&list=UUdGbCyLlk7npWJxwOOzLN8w
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sry lads i was reading the draw as listed last night ..i agree with you L.H. ABOUT heat 2 ..its just a shame to see great dogs go out as in heat 4..also iv backed Snowy, t.s.ray,and P.M and there all draw togather..
 i am sure im not the only one. |
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heat 2 is fkin fantastic
 as for Madison last night showed again he has nowt to the corner unless he smashes |
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heat 1, do i double or quit on me vic gamble? heart says gamble...trying to listen to me head at the mo.
heat 2, great for those mug  spy backers haha. Got a little up but hoping he makes it through another round. heat 3, think i have 5 winners at the mo... gutted for jet and gem with the draw. Looks worrying with simple in 4. whos the 'maddest' for the rails simple or rodge? heat 4, 2 greens in maddy and snowy and 4 massive reds. Not sure what to do yet. |
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us mugs are lovin it |
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 just messing with u pf. what price you make him in the final then at the track? |
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something that made me laugh, watching simple in the 2nd round. the angle he made from the traps to the rails, i honestly thought he was gonna go through the gap in the rails where they place the traps.
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i knowhe will probably be any price ya want in the final if he gets there |
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This seeding is a problem at all the Irish tracks. No one wants T6, not even the wide seeds
. That is why you have mostly inside seeds. Many of them would not be inside runners, but if you seed middle more than likely you are going to be out in T5 or T6. Its very hard to win out of T6 unless you have a real genuine wide runner. So with the way this Derby is going it could well be an all inside seed final. So the draw will be crucial. But that's why so many owners are very frustrated with the draw system in Ireland, as it is made behind closed doors 98% of the time, leading to a belief amongst owners that Stakes are not drawn at all, but just matched for betting purposes. So I'm delighted to see the open draw with no 'smoke and mirrors'.This Derby looks set for a grandstand finish with three great nights to come. Vic will have a huge following next weekend with Kerry up in Dublin for the football semi-final. |
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i have never seen a draw like this with so many races made up of 3 dogs that ran against each other the previous heat.
heat2: spy bt sooty bt carrow drawn together again heat3: isabel bt gerry bt simple but  heat4: kk bt tsr bt robert and snowy bt dancer bt maddy.need to give them balls a better shake! lol |
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must nearly be time for Vic to crash out now
it's usually when he goes fav |
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if i put 2 quid up at 5.6... will that get vic through given kk's 5.5? lol.
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he should be fine once coming away |
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Vic was odds against on here for pieces of silver last night, and 2 A1 dogs against him and one other best grade A0. Some bet at 4/6 sp.to beat Mall Brandy. The week between his races is good for him also, and Liam D thinks he really unlucky in the English equivalent.
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there was plenty of 4/5 on course
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Vic was the proverbial good thing last night, as was Kereight King. Some have spoken about how unlucky Jet was. Not in my book. Hot Pursuit was the unlucky one and can improve from this. How he recovered to run on is a mystery. Jet seems to think that the white paint belongs to him and that anything between him and the rail will vanish if he moves into it. All brawn and no brains! Madison looks to be carrying a niggle to me. Ran a great race to find room and qualify. Looks like he'll go out here, sorry to say.
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Can someone clarify is it still the first three home that qualify to the next round ? And when does it go down to the first two home to qualify ?
Thanks all |
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It is first 3 fot the rest of the comp
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Didnt realise thanks, Dublin. Would be nice win but only had to be small stakes at that price anyway, so wouldnt lose much. We will see, cracking second to very fast winner Borna Gem, anyway
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woodmanchester 25 Aug 13 12:34 "Had a little 9/1 top-up Madison."
Dog came out wrong woody, use your eyes. |
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greened Madison, only tsr and simple left
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taken 16's spy, easier qf , few wide seeds left, last performance fantastic
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definate opinion
b365 may have been right in ducking isabels boy but in the long run betting a heat like that they can only go one way. laying 10/1 about dogs going off 7/2 will never work. its only a matter of time before they get one totally wrong and end up paying for it |
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can everyone please take the rose tinted glasses off re holdem spy. yes he has the poorest 1/4 final but saying he was impressive on saturday in completely wrong. everything stopped at the 3rd bend allowing him to come round the outside he will need ti find at least 5 lengths to be considered a derby winner
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Certainly Spy needs to polish up his starting prowess, terrific from halfway though
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don't consider him a derby winner at all
just don't think he'll be 16's in the final |