i have run a top dog with with stitches on the back of the pad and he won doing a top time and by the way im an animal lover too

laurels does not really count as long as the wound does not get infected he is a cert to run only one derby

listen every time u run a dog u risk getting him injured   i would say a good few dogs are carrying some injury if the wound stays infection free he will run

All depends what the vet says today. Could have been more serious than back of pad. I'm on, so obviously want Vic to run but only if it causes no distress whatsoever

28/08/2013
The word on Holdem Spy following his withdrawal from the ETS Irish Derby is that he is likely to be out of action for the rest of the year.
Darren Holmes, assistant to trainer Carol Weatherall, reported that “He’d never been better than he was on Saturday and ran a tremendous race to win - I washed him down afterwards and went back over the main side to watch some of the other heats, but when I returned to the kennels and got him out again he was on three legs.
“I took him straight to Daniel Doherty on Monday morning and he confirmed the fracture. He’s in a cast now and will hopefully make a full recovery in ten to 12 weeks but, realistically, that’s probably this year done for him.
“I can only think the injury occurred when he was forced wide at the first bend but you wouldn’t have thought he was hurt the way he ran afterwards. The competition really looked to be opening up which makes it harder to take.”

vic leg much better looking good

They can heal quickly these things, particularly when treated immediately.  I don't know when the last minute is for calling him in attendance, and/or fit to run, but they should take every second possible before declaring one way or the other. I remember not too long ago a Gold Cup winner was unfit to run on the Saturday.  He made it for the Thursday.  Kicking King!  Miracles can ( and often do ) happen!  I certainly hope so because he's a great dog and deserves the chance to win his Derby.

Agree LH.

PS you up early ! Billy won it on 2.74 legs..............

FRASER REPORTS JET IN TOP FORM
29/08/2013
Followers of Droopys Jet must have missed a few heart beats last Saturday when he collided with Hot Pursuit on the opening bends in their ETS Irish Derby heat.
Both dogs managed to qualify in the race won by Fairhill Paddy and Fraser yesterday said he was “delighted with the dog. He is in great form but we could do with a bit of luck with the trap draws”.
In the Derby to date the noted inside runner has occupied trap four twice, trap five once and he must race from six on Saturday.
But Fraser is looking on the optimistic side as he says: “I am just hoping that he repeats his Wimbledon performance when he was drawn in six. He went up straight then and if he does the same on Saturday night then he should be okay”.

Ballymac Vic is now a likely runner in Saturday’s quarter finals of the ETS Irish Derby at Shelbourne Park.
Speaking this afternoon, Liam said “The vet saw him today and the foot is coming along nicely. As it stands at the moment he is likely to run unless it deteriorates between now and Saturday.
“Obviously it could blow up in our face but it’s a risk that we will have to take. We don’t know what will happen when he puts pressure on the foot in a race but we hope to travel”.
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bit late with the news micheal

ha ha

Paradise Madison has a very hard heat and with a cloud hanging over Ballymac Vic, i'm counting on him, antepost betting-wise and most worthwhile trip-wise. Heart in mouth time at the start

If its my posts that are referred to as someone "piped up", I was merely expressing an opinion, but perhaps that irritates some on here if my post is not favourably disposed to that persons views. Maybe one shouldn't be copying and pasting so quick, if one thinks they got it right that its time for "Vic to crash out", I have felt that post (26th August 2013 18.25), unnecessary, in the circumstances. I actually feel it is bordering on gloating and leaves a bad taste.

gloating ffs yes i'm gloating, the comment was a wind up towards certain people and they'd have known that and sure the smiley that was with the post was a bit of a giveaway

Glenanore Dancer surely over-priced at 20/1, on each-way, with Tyrur Sugar Ray, Paradise Madison, Slippery Robert likely to be in arrears and Kereight King facing his widest draw in the Derby so far. Just hope Madison comes through to reach the semis.

Also like 7/1 Melodys Diamond. Every chance Droopys Jet will turn left into Borna Gem, Isabels Boy and Holycross Gerry evenly matched and Melodys could come out on top, if getting a run at 'em.

Much will depend on how Ballymac Vic's foot stands up in the first quarter. Some fast-early dogs like Hot Pursuit and Cabra Buck, but overall Vic is capable of a comfortable victory.

Dont think the Derby winner will be coming out of the weak second quarter-final. If had to nominate one, maybe Slippery Sooty

backed

Dancer 20/1 ew take a chance it lead
Robert 12/1 again same heat got great draw
Adler 10-1 VIC could go straight on take the field out

there the value punts

Heat 1 - Ballymac Vic @ 5/4 & Ballyanna Foxtrot @ 10/1

Ballymac Vic has a great draw and should be odds on. He can't fail to lead those either side of him unless he makes a total mess of the start. I find it hard to see him not leading up Hot Pursuit too being on his inside again unless he makes a right mess of it, once he leads around the race is over in my opinion.

Ballyanna Foxtrot has a lovely draw, Hot Pursuit in 4 is turning left and if trapping level Foxtrot should have plenty of room run up. He has yet to really come away during the Derby but has lovely early pace and if Vic was feeling the effects of the cut i think he would be the one to take advantage, i can't have him as a 10s shot anyway.


Heat 2 - Fridays Carroll @ 10/1

bloody heck no disrespect to connections of these runners but this must rank as the worst Derby quarter final ever. Anyway Fridays Carroll has ran like a drain the last 2 weeks but there is a fair chance he could go around in front tonight and there is nothingb with the gears of Ballymac Vic or Nothing Simple in here so he may be able to stay in front 2 to 3 and if doing so they will not pick him up. I think the price is way too big.


Heat 3 - Isabels Boy @ 4/1

Draw is a bit of a mess here, Melodys Diamond in 3 will surely take a bang off Nothing Simple turning straight left run up as he always does when drawn off the fence, Borna Gem i don't like from wide draws, as for Droopys Jet i don't think the draw for him is as bad as many will think and he is a fair price @ 5/2, with everything inside him moving left he just may get a good run to the corner. As for the other two well Holycross Gerry was close enough to Isabels Boy last week and couldn't pick him up so i can't see why he will this week, if Isabels Boy comes away he should lead around the corner and with the draw the way it is that could well be good enough.


Heat 4 - Slippery Robert @ 14/1 + 10/1 & Tyrur Sugar Ray @ 10/1 + 3/1

Simple really, Slippery Robert is the best drawn dog in the Derby quarter finals. Ringtown Snowy is moving rails run up and will be a problem for Madison and Slippery Robert will have the whole outside to himself, whether he can take advantage or not is another question but i thought he showed good pace up last week after not coming away and feel he is overpriced on the draw alone.

Kerieght King is a worthy fav here and his main problem would seem to be clearing Glenanore Dancer run up. Madison is better from the middle than the inside in my opinion but having Ringtown Snowy on his immediate outside is a big negative and he will ahve to be good at boxes. Glenanore Dancer must smash and still probably needs something to happen behind him. That leaves Sugar Ray, he was only 3.5L behind Kereight King and after watching the race numerous times i feel it could have been a lot closer had things worked out better in running for Sugar Ray, he is perfectly drawn tonight and if the gaps open on the rails for him i think he will be bang there, he will take some beating in my opinion.




Race 11 - Sidarian Jaguar @ 4/1 + 7/2

Thought he was absolutely desperate last week on the 2nd bend and ran a cracker. With a run here he will take some beating and i don't think the draw is at all bad for him.



Had played Peads Hawk @ 40s in the other semi but she seems to be a NR


No comment on the rest of the card seen as there are no prices available

good write up Prem, Vic tendency move wide from run up sometimes middle/wide as we know, and with Puruit turning left, could be some banging, and Ballyana Foxtrot could get clear run round, albeit Cabra Buck posts fast consistent sectionals.  Unlikely Vic had any work this week which is my main worry. doesn't feel like punting night to me. might spend my money on KFC and watch

this derby been crazy !!!

why couldn't they oneco seeding right twats!!!!